Latest Zionist Ad to Inflame Against Muslims When it Was Israel Which Did 9/11 (NYC)

[voodoo101]

The whole idea of a true inside job involving framing Muslims for 9/11 is pretty damn ridiculous.

I think that if there was any unusual behavior from westerners in Pearl Harbor or 9/11, it was surely a "let it happen" instead of "set them up" kind of thing.

What makes it so ridiculous? Muslims in caves have neither the expertise, resources, or access to to set up two of the world's tallest and strongest buildings for demolitions.

You are saying what you believe, which is your right, but it's not science. That belief has no basis except your faith in the government.

[nohomobrah]

^ I wouldn't say I trust all of the federal government when I am suggesting that many in charge possibly benefited from disregarding and basically allowing an attack on our soil.

Although they were Muslims in caves, they weren't from the stone age. Osama had hundreds of millions to billions of dollars to pour into this if it was really him behind it all.

[Milo3]

Actually everyone knows US purposely ignored intel about Japanese task force moving towards Pearl Harbor, with the obvious intent to allow the attack and thus get stupid morons to sign up for army and war and drag US into it some more.


Inside job? There is hardly ever such a thing, but a job either performed by foreign assets and/or allowed to be carried out, that is rather common You can say that people on the inside of US government knew and wanted the attack to happen.

I mean if you read this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_H...spiracy_theory


..as well as the links for reference, and a few more things to check details, you'd have to be a total 100% f_cking retard not to see that they knew about the attack beforehand.

It's true that we were very unprepared for the attack which always makes me wonder why there weren't any planes in the sky beforehand, but its not Roosevelt didn't know about the potential Japanese aggressors, troops were sent to the Philippines because Britain were also scared the Japs would invade one of their south east Asian colonies (japan actually did bomb Singapore not long after).

I've heard another conspiracy theory that Churchill was baying for war with Japan and was desperate for America and come in and help them in the war. Churchill apparently knew of the attack but didn't tell Roosevelt.

America was a second rate military power before WWII too.

[nutsy54]

What makes it so ridiculous? Muslims in caves have neither the expertise, resources, or access to to set up two of the world's tallest and strongest buildings for demolitions.

An irrelevant strawman statement, since... NONE OF THE F*CKING BUILDINGS WERE DEMOLISHED WITH CONTROLLED EXPLOSIVES.

That's your insane, unproven fantasy. You can't use one false claim to "prove" another (that's called "circular proof", on top of your endless strawman connections and claims).

[voodoo101]

^ I wouldn't say I trust all of the federal government when I am suggesting that many in charge possibly benefited from disregarding and basically allowing an attack on our soil.

Although they were Muslims in caves, they weren't from the stone age. Osama had hundreds of millions to billions of dollars to pour into this if it was really him behind it all.

This is true but lots of money does not equal the kind of highly specialized expertise, command and control structure, and access required to perform three high tech demolitions, using military grades of explosives and nanothermite manufactured only in American military labs. The teams would have to be the kind of people who blend in with their surroundings, speak perfect English, and don't raise eyebrows. And again there are elements like the NORAD stand-down and the expert flying jobs which could not have been performed by amateurs, but were likely flown by remote operators.

The connections between Pentagon Comptroller and Project for a New American Century Neocon and arch-Zionist Dov Zakheim are too strong to be ignored. This guy's company SPC wrote the book on taking control of airliners from the ground, and one airline, Lufthansa, found out that their planes were being shipped with his boxes onboard and had the whole fleet grounded until they stripped them out.

http://911truth.wetpaint.com/page/Zacheim

People like German intelligence official and Secretary of State in Defense Ministry, Andreas Von Bulow have been trying to explain that 9/11 is not something that a few terrorists, even if they have a lot of money, could pull off. He said:

"Planning the attacks was a master deed, in technical and organizational terms. To hijack four big airliners within a few minutes and fly them into targets within a single hour and doing so on complicated flight routes! That is unthinkable, without backing from the secret apparatuses of state and industry." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_von_Bulow

Other technology and organization involving things like impossible cellphone calls at 30,000 feet could not have been executed by Muslim hijackers.

A lot of people would rather believe that people in our government who were traitors and had a lot to gain "let it happen on purpose," but the technology used and the organization required is just too advanced.

[voodoo101]

It's true that we were very unprepared for the attack which always makes me wonder why there weren't any planes in the sky beforehand, but its not Roosevelt didn't know about the potential Japanese aggressors, troops were sent to the Philippines because Britain were also scared the Japs would invade one of their south east Asian colonies (japan actually did bomb Singapore not long after).

I've heard another conspiracy theory that Churchill was baying for war with Japan and was desperate for America and come in and help them in the war. Churchill apparently knew of the attack but didn't tell Roosevelt.

America was a second rate military power before WWII too.

The Pacific Fleet made a tempting target. US Admiral James O. Richardson objected to FDR’s insistence on keeping the US fleet bottled up at Pearl Harbor. He was summarily fired.

Secretary of War Henry Stimson’s diary for November 25, 1941 notes a meeting of FDR’s top advisors:

"The question was how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into … firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves."

Historical facts.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2...oosevelt-knew/

[voodoo101]

An irrelevant strawman statement, since... NONE OF THE F*CKING BUILDINGS WERE DEMOLISHED WITH CONTROLLED EXPLOSIVES.

That's your insane, unproven fantasy. You can't use one false claim to "prove" another (that's called "circular proof", on top of your endless strawman connections and claims).

Bold capital letters is not evidence, Numbnuts. Please tell me which one of my claims is false, if you have the balls. Of course you don't. You can only keep repeating "not true" as if saying it enough times makes it so.

Let's take one item in the OP. Was or was not Paul Wolfowitz in a perfect position to stand-down the air defenses? And isn't exactly who Pieczenik has named? Have you ever heard of Project for a New American Century? And why do you guys work so hard to keep Dov Zakheim's name out of these posts? Are you sucking his tiny Zionist dick like you do those babies?

"Flight Termination System" which was sold as a way to get control of hijacked jetliners. Invented by non-other than Dov Zakheim, Project for a New American Century Neocon and CFO of the Pentagon at the time $2.3 trillion is announced missing!

Zakheim's company SPC also had the contract for the investigation of the first WTC bombing in 1993, by SPC subsidiary Tridata. That means his people know the tower architectures inside and out. Lo and behold, Zakheim comes from a family of known terrorists. His daddy was an active member of Irgun, the terrorist organization which bombed British targets in order to found Israel.

http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/se...splan_fts.html



Cover page, Tridata (SPC) investigation into 1993 WTC bombing

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/p...ons/tr-076.pdf


Dov Zakheim

[Bushmaster]

Bold capital letters is not evidence

You don't have it either. If you did you'd do something with it.

[gatovolador]

God I love the Israeli version of the 50-cent party. Absolute masters of their craft; the only thing keeping me from pitying the Arabs is they are so stupid and cannot figure out how to play the game.

[Weightaholic]

Once again your very mode of argument reveals you as hasbarat disinfo.

Wow. So logic, reason and common sense make you hasbarat now? Intredasting.

[Weightaholic]

Bold capital letters is not evidence, Numbnuts. Please tell me which one of my claims is false

You have claimed the buildings fell at free fall speed into their own footprint, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

You have claimed the buildings fell at 80% of free fall speed and were blown outwards, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

One of these claims is by necessity false.

Explain.

[lasher]

You have claimed the buildings fell at free fall speed into their own footprint, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

You have claimed the buildings fell at 80% of free fall speed and were blown outwards, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

One of these claims is by necessity false.

Explain.

Don't confuse him with two options.

[Weightaholic]

You have claimed the buildings fell at free fall speed into their own footprint, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

You have claimed the buildings fell at 80% of free fall speed and were blown outwards, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

One of these claims is by necessity false.

Explain.

Voodoo's posted within the last few minutes, so we'll just bump this for him.

[_AdaM_]

That poster can't be serious!

That'll alienate Muslims in the US even though people argue that Muslims in the US are "moderate"

[Mr Beer]

Everything is black and white with you, isn't it?

This is the key to conspirotard thinking.

[voodoo101]

Originally Posted by Judgment View Post
Everything is black and white with you, isn't it?

This is the key to conspirotard thinking.

Either you believe the official story or you are a conspiratard isn't back and white thinking, hasbarat?

Why you want to be blaming them Muslims for what Israel did? Oh yes, we cleared Iraq for you. No more SCUDS from Saddam.

[nutsy54]

Please tell me which one of my claims is false, if you have the balls.

I've been doing that for years... It's now to the point of laughably boring that you just ignore all such posts, and pretend they never happened.

Meanwhile, in this specific post, you provided no actual evidence - only circumstantial, coincidental information such as "well, we could have...", and thus declare that he did.

PS: Still citing that quack Pieczenik? Please, tell us when we provided any evidence at all - especially after he claimed to have it 1 1/2 years ago. He's one of your most pathetically failed pieces of "proof": Either a liar & attention whore, or flat-out protecting those who are guilty... yet you keep trotting out that tired old interview as if he was actually telling the truth.


Oh yeah, and keep ranting about "Zionists", against people who have never posted anything on that topic. Really makes you look sane and rational

[voodoo101]

I've been doing that for years... It's now to the point of laughably boring that you just ignore all such posts, and pretend they never happened.

Meanwhile, in this specific post, you provided no actual evidence - only circumstantial, coincidental information such as "well, we could have...", and thus declare that he did.

PS: Still citing that quack Pieczenik? Please, tell us when we provided any evidence at all - especially after he claimed to have it 1 1/2 years ago. He's one of your most pathetically failed pieces of "proof": Either a liar & attention whore, or flat-out protecting those who are guilty... yet you keep trotting out that tired old interview as if he was actually telling the truth.


Oh yeah, and keep ranting about "Zionists", against people who have never posted anything on that topic. Really makes you look sane and rational

You calling Pieczenik a quack is fukking gold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

Professional life

Pieczenik was deputy assistant secretary of state under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]

In 1974, Pieczenik joined the U.S. State Department as a consultant to restructure its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]

In 1976, Pieczenik was made deputy assistant secretary of state for management.[2][5][9][10]

At the State Department, he served as a "specialist on hostage taking."[11] He has been credited with devising successful negotiating strategies and tactics used in several high profile hostage situations including the 1976 TWA Flight 355 hostage situation and the 1977 kidnapping of the son of Cyprus' president.[2] He was involved in negotiations for the release of Aldo Moro after Moro was kidnapped.[12] As a renowned psychiatrist, he was utilized as a press source for early information on the mental state of the hostages involved in the Iranian Hostage Crisis after they were freed.[13] In 1977, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Mary McGrory described Stephen Pieczenik as "one of the most 'brilliantly competent' men in the field of terrorism."[14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

[Weightaholic]

You have claimed the buildings fell at free fall speed into their own footprint, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

You have claimed the buildings fell at 80% of free fall speed and were blown outwards, and that this was proof of a government demolition.

One of these claims is by necessity false.

Explain.

Still waiting Voodoo....

[Weightaholic]

Bold capital letters is not evidence, Numbnuts. Please tell me which one of my claims is false, if you have the balls. [/URL]

Anyone else remember when the USS Enterprise was going to be sunk as part of a false flag attack? I do.

[nutsy54]

You calling Pieczenik a quack is fukking gold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

So, where's his evidence? 1 1/2 YEARS ago he claimed to have information that would reveal the treasonous criminals behind 9/11. Where is it? Why does he continue to hide it, therefore protecting those who are guilty? (Unless, of course, he's just a liar and attention-whoring fraud - interviewed by the same Alex Jones who you now claim is just a Zionist agent).

Hell, even your fellow CT's admit he's a fraud:

Pieczenik is a LIAR AND FRAUD! He claimed 1 1/2 YEARS AGO to have key evidence which would reveal those who are guilty.

You are CORRECT! He is a liar and a fraud, even people on the prisonplanet forum know that.. But BRB people on the prisonplanet forum are "Conspiracy theorists"!

That being said, Voodoo should stop citing him as a reference, because all he is doing is discrediting himself.

[nutsy54]

Anyone else remember when the USS Enterprise was going to be sunk as part of a false flag attack? I do.

Which time? That claim was made on two separate deployments, six years apart

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post954714153

But we damn well better believe the next time Voodoo tells us to believe something!

[voodoo101]

Still waiting Voodoo....

Okay. First where did I claim they fell at free-fall speed into their own footprint? Inb4 you quote Dr. Paul Craig Roberts again. Give the link to the comment.

[nutsy54]

Okay. First where did I claim they fell at free-fall speed into their own footprint? Inb4 you quote Dr. Paul Craig Roberts again. Give the link to the comment.

YOU POSTED HIS WORDS! You used them to support and "prove" your position. You never questioned or refuted his comments in those posts, you used them to bolster your argument.

Now you're back-peddling, and telling us you've been posting other peoples' lies all this time? That was your "proof" - the false claims of others? So this is just one more liar you've based your positions on, but we're supposed to keep believing everything else you say? How many more false claims and deceptions will you admit to in the future?

[KingKongFu]

I don't believe the official 9/11 story, even if it sounded plausible (which to me it doesn't), i would DEMAND an independent investigation simply because i do not trust a government that is known to carry out false-flag attacks or atleast "planned to" (See operation northwoods).

The fact that they have wanted to do things like this in the past, and its been PROVEN!, means that they should be scrutinized every time something like this happens, and having said all that, its just shocking that the people of America would just go ahead with there governments plans to attack other countries on the basis of a "terror" attack, no questions asked.

Talk about a docile society.

[Bushmaster]

I don't believe the official 9/11 story, even if it sounded plausible (which to me it doesn't), i would DEMAND an independent investigation

Talk about a docile society.

So have you "demanded" this independent investigation yet???

Talk about a docile society.

[juggerburn]

Some of you guys have your head in the sand. How do you explain people setting up a camera point at the twin towers a day prior to the events and then celebrating when they come down? How did they know the towers were coming down? Oh, lets just brush this under the rug.

[Bushmaster]

Okay. First where did I claim they fell at free-fall speed into their own footprint? Inb4 you quote Dr. Paul Craig Roberts again. Give the link to the comment.

back-pedal  
back-ped·al [bak-ped-l] Show IPA
verb (used without object), back-ped·aled, back-ped·al·ing or ( especially British ) back-ped·alled, back-ped·al·ling.

1. to retard the forward motion by pressing backward on the pedal, especially of a bicycle with coaster brakes.

2. to retreat from or reverse one's previous stand on any matter; shift ground: to back-pedal after severe criticism.

3. Boxing. to retreat from an opponent, especially by stepping rapidly backward.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/back-pedal

[Judgment]

Some of you guys have your head in the sand.

Typical CT response.

[KingKongFu]

So have you "demanded" this independent investigation yet???

Talk about a docile society.

Yes, if i was American, I would demand an independent investigation instead of just being docile and going with whatever a proven untrustworthy government tells me.

What is your point? was that suppose to be a counter argument or something? your not making any sense. Some Americans have stood up and demanded an independent investigation, but that doesn't mean anything if the majority remain docile.