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    Bench vs Dumbbells / Incline v Flat

    Iv been hearing so much random **** about what is the best to develope a nice chest, personally iv got a lagging upper chest, so im trying to work on inclines the most, even tho it probebly wont make a difference, since u "cant" target different areas of your chest, the lower part of my chest has "alot" of mass compared to my upper


    Would appriciate if some veterans/experienced guy's could give me their 2 cents on wich exercises & if inc/flat really makes a difference

    my current chest routine looks like this:

    3 sets incline dumbbell press
    3 sets flat dumbbell press
    3 sets incline barbell press
    3 sets of incline cable flies


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    Originally Posted by Frame2Big View Post
    Iv been hearing so much random **** about what is the best to develope a nice chest, personally iv got a lagging upper chest, so im trying to work on inclines the most, even tho it probebly wont make a difference, since u "cant" target different areas of your chest, the lower part of my chest has "alot" of mass compared to my upper


    Would appriciate if some veterans/experienced guy's could give me their 2 cents on wich exercises & if inc/flat really makes a difference

    my current chest routine looks like this:

    3 sets incline dumbbell press
    3 sets flat dumbbell press
    3 sets incline barbell press
    3 sets of incline cable flies


    Cheers!
    They say guillotine presses are really good for targeting the upper chest. If I was in your position, I would just keep the same routine and bulk up until my upper chest catches up to my lower.
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    ya i mean exercises look good. do you have one of those hammer strength incline presses at your gym? we have one at mine and i feel it hits my upper chest a lot better then doing incline db press.
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    Originally Posted by NP603 View Post
    ya i mean exercises look good. do you have one of those hammer strength incline presses at your gym? we have one at mine and i feel it hits my upper chest a lot better then doing incline db press.
    Ye but im too tall for it, cant get low enough on the seat to get the right angle :/
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    i think using both is the best way to go. some weeks start with barbell and go heavy. other weeks start with dummbbell and focus on form
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    Originally Posted by Frame2Big View Post
    Iv been hearing so much random **** about what is the best to develope a nice chest, personally iv got a lagging upper chest, so im trying to work on inclines the most, even tho it probebly wont make a difference, since u "cant" target different areas of your chest,
    Yes you can. The pectorialis major has two heads, the clavicular head and the sternal head. Incline emphasizes clavicular and flat/decline emphasizes sternal. Whether you can target the outer or inner chest remains unresolved but you most certainly can target the upper and lower chest.


    3 sets incline dumbbell press
    3 sets flat dumbbell press
    3 sets incline barbell press
    3 sets of incline cable flies
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    IMO... Pick one flat exercise, and one incline exercise... but do it twice a week.
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    Originally Posted by NP603 View Post
    do you have one of those hammer strength incline presses at your gym?
    HS makes some of the best equipment out there, and this one may be at the top. Always a part of my routines.
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    Originally Posted by NZninja101 View Post
    Yes you can. The pectorialis major has two heads, the clavicular head and the sternal head. Incline emphasizes clavicular and flat/decline emphasizes sternal. Whether you can target the outer or inner chest remains unresolved but you most certainly can target the upper and lower chest.




    IMO... Pick one flat exercise, and one incline exercise... but do it twice a week.
    oh i see, so how would u structure chest 2 days /w ?

    shud i do heavy lifting on both ? and alternate excersise ?
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    Originally Posted by Frame2Big View Post
    oh i see, so how would u structure chest 2 days /w ?

    shud i do heavy lifting on both ? and alternate excersise ?
    My approach is one heavy day (M) and one lighter day (Th). Slightly different movements on each day.
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    Barbell Bench is an overall upper body power exercise that stimulates the pecs,deltoids,and triceps. It should be the staple and backbone of all your chest training sessions. This should be your primary power movement.

    Dumbbell bench is better for chest isolation due to the increase in Humerus Adduction, which is the primary function of the pectoral muscles. The amount of humerus adduction is limited on only Barbell Bench - thus you should include both barbells and dumbbells. This should be your primary hypertrophy emphasized movement.

    Flye's will further isolate the pec as you will no longer be doing a press which recruits more deltoids and triceps, but rather doing complete humerus adduction when your arms cross your body. This will help to finish off the chest and isolate it in one of the most effective means possible, since you are literally performing the exact function the pectorals were designed to do. This is your main isolation exercise.

    Incline training will help activate more muscle fibers in the clavicular region of the pectorals, and emphasize the "Upper pec area" more. You should have an Incline movement be a staple movement in every training session.

    A basic, simple, effective Chest routine that can be performed twice a week for a serious bodybuilder :

    Flat Barbell Bench 3x6-8 (Main Power Emphasized Movement)
    Incline Dumbbell Bench 3x8-10 (Main Hypertrophy Emphasized Movement)
    Dumbbell Flye 3x10-12 (Main Isolation Movement)
    Dips 3x12-15 (Accessory Movement)
    * Cable Crossovers performed every third session for 3 sets *


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    I agree with the guy saying you should incorporate flat BB bench.. your workout should look kinda like this

    Flat Barbell Bench - 4 sets of 5
    Incline Dumbbell Bench - 3 sets of 8 to 10
    Pec-Dec Flyes - 3 sets of 10 to 12
    Push-ups elevated feet (weighted vest if possible) - 3 sets to failure

    You can even throw in some Decline Barbell Bench - 3 sets of 6 to 8 or replace Pec-Dec Flyes with DB Flyes, I just find the Pec-Dec easier on your shoulders..
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    Originally Posted by DerekEt View Post
    Barbell Bench is an overall upper body power exercise that stimulates the pecs,deltoids,and triceps. It should be the staple and backbone of all your chest training sessions. This should be your primary power movement.

    Dumbbell bench is better for chest isolation due to the increase in Humerus Adduction, which is the primary function of the pectoral muscles. The amount of humerus adduction is limited on only Barbell Bench - thus you should include both barbells and dumbbells. This should be your primary hypertrophy emphasized movement.

    Flye's will further isolate the pec as you will no longer be doing a press which recruits more deltoids and triceps, but rather doing complete humerus adduction when your arms cross your body. This will help to finish off the chest and isolate it in one of the most effective means possible, since you are literally performing the exact function the pectorals were designed to do. This is your main isolation exercise.

    Incline training will help activate more muscle fibers in the clavicular region of the pectorals, and emphasize the "Upper pec area" more. You should have an Incline movement be a staple movement in every training session.

    A basic, simple, effective Chest routine that can be performed twice a week for a serious bodybuilder :

    Flat Barbell Bench 3x6-8 (Main Power Emphasized Movement)
    Incline Dumbbell Bench 3x8-10 (Main Hypertrophy Emphasized Movement)
    Dumbbell Flye 3x10-12 (Main Isolation Movement)
    Dips 3x12-15 (Accessory Movement)
    * Cable Crossovers performed every third session for 3 sets *


    I learned this from one of the great Mr.Olympia's, and believe you can do well with it too.
    Very interesting read! only problem would be the dips, probebly wont be able to do more than 6 after all the other excerises
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    Originally Posted by Frame2Big View Post
    oh i see, so how would u structure chest 2 days /w ?

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    My approach is one heavy day (M) and one lighter day (Th). Slightly different movements on each day.
    Do this. Alternatively, do flat bench relatively heavy (5-7 reps) followed by lighter incline for maybe 8-10 reps.
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