Attention people who train for strength

[Mobster1995]

In for Aesthetics

<3
but no harm gaining some great strength along the way hey

[lefteris7]

It sounds like you have an inferiority complex going on because he's looking good? You mad dude ? lol

Nope. I myself have told him that he looks very good. It just gets tiring to see all these compliment begs. I may be really unlucky and only see these posts instead of your actual helpful ones.

[Homanator]

Real talk doe, there is legit no reason to train with the aim of becoming really strong, you could increase the weight by 2.5lbs and probably still see results. I just like picking heavy **** up nowadays because my interests lie in powerlifting and rugby. Also strength routines are balls for size, I saw more progress from a couple months last year body wise when I worked in varied rep ranges with 'hypertrophy' in mind on an upper lower split than I have through this this year, although I'm significantly stronger now.

Inb4 its my diet that did this

Nope, I eat the same, count my calories erryday, eat accordingly for my goals.

[BradCathie]

You guys are acting like if you're a bodybuilder you're automatically weak. In reality most bodybuilders are relatively strong as ****, certainly much stronger than the average tmiscer who trains for strength. The opposite cannot be said for most power lifters. They're fat as **** and don't even look like they lift. In the real world, aesthetics>strength. How often are you going to be benefited from squatting 6 plates for 1 rep as opposed to 3 for 20 in the real world? Yeah, not often. Being swole on the other hand, 24/7. Bitches be mirin, brahs be jelly, you be sexy, etc.

Have fun training for other's approval and not yourself.

[DerekEt]

Have fun training for other's approval and not yourself.

Says the guy who posts his 800 pound total in his signature? Am I missing something?

[doctor220]

You act like all powerlifters are big fat guys. No. Sure if you are looking to lift the ABSOLUTE MOST amount of weight, you are going to carry some fat. However, I'd actually like to be athletic. Who would you rather have on your football team, Babyslayer, or Jay Cutler?

[Ka0s]

You act like all powerlifters are big fat guys. No. Sure if you are looking to lift the ABSOLUTE MOST amount of weight, you are going to carry some fat. However, I'd actually like to be athletic. Who would you rather have on your football team, Babyslayer, or Jay Cutler?

Who would you rather have penetrating your mom's angus, Michael Jordan or Tom Brady

[Homanator]

You act like all powerlifters are big fat guys. No. Sure if you are looking to lift the ABSOLUTE MOST amount of weight, you are going to carry some fat. However, I'd actually like to be athletic. Who would you rather have on your football team, Babyslayer, or Jay Cutler?

Implying this thread is about sports and not about aesthetic appeal?

[Ka0s]

Implying this thread is about sports and not about aesthetic appeal?

Bro, being swole in every day life <<< a hypothetical situation in which you are picked to play on an imaginary football team over Jay Cutler

[Homanator]

Bro, being swole in every day life <<< a hypothetical situation in which you are picked to play on an imaginary football team over Jay Cutler

How do I into flying fat guy mode?

[BradCathie]

Says the guy who posts his 800 pound total in his signature? Am I missing something?

It's for anyone who's interested, lul. You don't ever wonder what other people's lifts are just because you're curious?

[Whitekoala]

Kaos or Derek:

Q: When you guys bench press(u both are bodybuilders) do you guys lockout on your bench press or do about 3/4 reps?

I found that when i lockout on db shoulder press my triceps go first. Last workout i did 1/2 reps and my shoulders were on phucking fire, and my triceps didn't even hurt. Wondering if the same can be done with all my chest exercises?
thx guys

[DerekEt]

You will recruit more of the target muscle on Pressing movements if you don't lockout, this is true. Do I do it? Nah, I always lockout because I always fail at lockout, never on the chest or midway. Also, the movements that this applies to are usually power movements(Bench Press,Military Press), so I'm looking to just do full reps with lots of force production while keeping the rep range moderately high around 8 down to 6. In theory, it probably is better to not lockout, but how significant the difference would be is questionable. I'm sure it does make a difference, so yeah if you want to do that, then do that. I use the Dumbbell Benching,Flyes,Dips,and Cables for the TuT(Time under tension) and Hypertrophy/Isolation emphasis anyways though.

Smallest things could make a difference I guess, but it's up to you. I don't see what's wrong with doing it or not doing it idk. There are some movements you shouldn't always lockout on simply due to the fact that you could snap some **** up like Skullcrushers though.

[Francis333]

Prove me wrong.



When you were on SS, you looked the same for like 8 months. We'll see if that's changed on the Madcow's program in your upcoming progress thread.

pepper your angus *******

You look fukin phenomenal but youve said yourself you mostly got that way from bodyweight exercises, which is about as far away of an idea from SS as you could possibly be.

Ethan - dude I dont know. It seems like the vast majority of people on here who do SS when they start dont look like they lift with their shirts on (and even off most of the time) and always just get caught up in numbers, adding weight to the bar, and reaching this elusive 2/3/4 goal, because lord knows anyone squatting 315 has jus GOT to be huuuuuge.

Obv is someone get's caught up in the numbers have changed their goals toward more strength related.

[Francis333]

Have fun browsing through my posts here, or click on my username -> View forum posts.

lolwut you delete the majority of your posts.

busted

[Ka0s]

Kaos or Derek:

Q: When you guys bench press(u both are bodybuilders) do you guys lockout on your bench press or do about 3/4 reps?

I found that when i lockout on db shoulder press my triceps go first. Last workout i did 1/2 reps and my shoulders were on phucking fire, and my triceps didn't even hurt. Wondering if the same can be done with all my chest exercises?
thx guys

Yo one time I tried ultra wide grip bench, going only 2/3 of the way up, with very slow negatives...

my chest was on FIRE and I failed at around 10-12 reps of 155
lmao

[Francis333]

Yo one time I tried ultra wide grip bench, going only 2/3 of the way up, with very slow negatives...

my chest was on FIRE and I failed at around 10-12 reps of 155
lmao

I can not tell if you're ever srs 90% of the time.

[Ka0s]

completely serious wide grip is da pec killa

[DerekEt]

Wide Grip = more pectorals ......

AKA Serge Nubret, he gripped the bar Collar-to-collar (100% srs) and had some of the best pectoral development in the history of bodybuilding.

ka0s is also being serious, the weight you use drops SIGNIFICANTLY and you will for once feel it mostly in your pecs instead of triceps lml

[Ka0s]

confirmed, and they didn't go heavy either. IIRC serge could bench in the mid 400's but used 90kg (about 200lbs) on bench in his regular training

[DerekEt]

Confirmed. Serge Nubret used between 185 - 225 pounds maximum in all his years of bench press training. However, his training style was INSANE and nobody to this day has really used it. He did about 7 sets per exercises( 7 WORKING SETS!!! ) with very light weight, with VERY low rest time. We're talking 30-45 seconds...and performing about 12 reps a set or something like that.Typically used about 200 pounds.

However when he tried, his Max Bench Press was HIGHER THAN Arnold's .

He did a ~500 pound Bench Press on camera; there is a picture of it as well!!! Even the Terminator couldn't do that =p (he could do about 475)

[Ka0s]

ethan how do you feel about that? he didnt progressively overload man and used well below his max

[DerekEt]

He was one in a million dude. NOBODY ELSE has done that. For his one way of training,there are 10,000,000 others that never did that. I'm not going to lie though, I DID DO HIS ROUTINE FOR ~1 month or less and exploded on it. But it was probably mostly just a huge pump of glycogen that stored throughout my body. The soreness was insane.... I remember sitting in my room doing 1,000 situps a night or something, lmao. Also the poundages you use are ridiculous. We're talking 40 pounds for dumbbell bench.. a plate or less on bench...1 plate or so on squats, 2 pound dumbbells for lateral raises... lol...

The other problem is since he was drinking Cranberries, that it makes the training effect different than what somebody who doesn't take cranberry. You know as well as I ...that cranberry will do an excellent job of blowing up muscles with glycogen.

[Saintsqc]

Hey Derek! I'm intrigued....why did you get all your infos on pro BBers? You quote or take in examples pros in almost all your posts lol...

[Ka0s]

Hey Derek! I'm intrigued....why did you get all your infos on pro BBers? You quote or take in examples pros in almost all your posts lol...

Confirmed, who cares about pros? I'm much more interested in what you do, Saintsqc. How did you ever achieve such impressive results?

[DerekEt]

Lol ka0s, loooooooooooooooooool.

Saints, I did a lot of reading, that's all I can say. Even talked to a lot of them ,etc.

[Saintsqc]

Confirmed, who cares about pros? I'm much more interested in what you do, Saintsqc. How did you ever achieve such impressive results?

I know right, 35 lbs of lean mass in 3 years is unbelievable! My secret is dat dere cell tech

Lol ka0s, loooooooooooooooooool.

Saints, I did a lot of reading, that's all I can say. Even talked to a lot of them ,etc.

That's crazy, you cite name of BBers I never heard about haha.

[Jericoe]

completely serious wide grip is da pec killa

what would you consider a wide grip? i already bench with my index finger on the ring and some people consider this wide. Whats best for strength?

[CM1221]

i cant believe that there are still idiots that think us powerlifters only train with low reps, we still do hypertrophy work, and our assistance work is in high rep ranges. and honestly, you do get pretty big with low reps, i squat heavy (3reps and lower) 4 days a week, you really think i have chicken legs?

I dont think anyones saying you have chicken legs, theyre just saying that your legs will be smaller than someone who lifts for hypertrophy.

[7asssa7]

http://www.flexonline.com/training/t...-lifting-heavy


good read