Attention people who train for strength

[DerekEt]

^ I just powerlifted for 8+ months and did 8-10 reps too...................on triceps. (3-5 on everything else). Not only did I lose like 40 pounds in the process(210 down to 170s), but I looked like garbage, kept getting told by my g/f that she wants me "big again", and definetly had no legs.


Also I squat and deadlift the same/more than you at 60 pounds less and had chicken legs,so that argument sucked srs.


Btw, Bench and Squat are quite different. It is possible to get big legs on Squats if you have the right body type and squat enough solely in the 3-5 rep range. Try that with Bench and you will be putting up 4+ plates with people questioning if you even lift. Plenty of videos on youtube of people doing 405+ for reps who look like they can't bench 225.

[timmzzy1]

^ I just powerlifted for 8+ months and did 8-10 reps too...................on triceps. (3-5 on everything else). Not only did I lose like 40 pounds in the process(210 down to 170s), but I looked like garbage, kept getting told by my g/f that she wants me "big again", and definetly had no legs.


also I squat and deadlift the same/more than you at 60 pounds less and had chicken legs. so that argument sucked srs.


you probably do lots of leg pressing or squats or something in higher rep ranges with more time under tension. I call b/s that you did only 3-5 rep squats to get "big legs" if you even have them ( no hate )

yeah, but how old are you, and how long have you been lifting? nah i dont do leg presses, but my legs got big from ice hockey, but ive seen the best progress since i started powerlifting

[natypes]

Different diets and different supplement regiments for their different goals. Some supplements keep you lean while other stuff keeps your 'e' high and joints happy while increasing strength yet keeping a little bloat on. Different creatines and test boosters of course.

[BradCathie]

^ I just powerlifted for 8+ months and did 8-10 reps too...................on triceps. (3-5 on everything else). Not only did I lose like 40 pounds in the process(210 down to 170s), but I looked like garbage, kept getting told by my g/f that she wants me "big again", and definetly had no legs.


Also I squat and deadlift the same/more than you at 60 pounds less and had chicken legs,so that argument sucked srs.


Btw, Bench and Squat are quite different. It is possible to get big legs on Squats if you have the right body type and squat enough solely in the 3-5 rep range. Try that with Bench and you will be putting up 4+ plates with people questioning if you even lift. Plenty of videos on youtube of people doing 405+ for reps who look like they can't bench 225.

I seriously hope you're not solely blaming powerlifting for losing 40lbs.

[ThickSoIid]

Different diets and different supplement regiments for their different goals. Some supplements keep you lean while other stuff keeps your 'e' high and joints happy while increasing strength yet keeping a little bloat on. Different creatines and test boosters of course.

I sure hope you are trolling.

[7asssa7]

i think that's bull**** for most people but if you are really advanced working with huge poundages or volumes it might be true

True. But doing high volume training aka brosplit leaves you pretty sore for a long time ( I know soreness does not mean **** ). What matters is the volume and hormonal response. INB4 someone says that that is a ****ing myth

[xSup3r]

^ I just powerlifted for 8+ months and did 8-10 reps too...................on triceps. (3-5 on everything else). Not only did I lose like 40 pounds in the process(210 down to 170s), but I looked like garbage, kept getting told by my g/f that she wants me "big again", and definetly had no legs.


Also I squat and deadlift the same/more than you at 60 pounds less and had chicken legs,so that argument sucked srs.


Btw, Bench and Squat are quite different. It is possible to get big legs on Squats if you have the right body type and squat enough solely in the 3-5 rep range. Try that with Bench and you will be putting up 4+ plates with people questioning if you even lift. Plenty of videos on youtube of people doing 405+ for reps who look like they can't bench 225.

r u srs.

EDIT: why is my ****in avi cut halfway off.

[JanusKinase2]

liked this part : Recent research shows that it takes up to seven days to fully recuperate from performing multiple sets of the same muscle group (Ahtiainen et al. 2011), and there's evidence to show that exercising too often could result in decreased hypertrophy (Logan and Abernethy, 1996).

So hitting a muscle once a week may not be as bad or inferior as some of the people on these forums think

Single studies are not conclusive.

[7asssa7]

Single studies are not conclusive.

but there are also no multiple studies confirming that hitting twice a week with volume spread is any better for hypertrophy. Protein synthesis is only one side of the equation, even if it ****ing drops after 48 hours

[timmzzy1]

I sure hope you are trolling.

I doubt he would, mods tend to be against that sort of thing, and he's completely right about the "supplement" thing

[natypes]

I doubt he would, mods tend to be against that sort of thing, and he's completely right about the "supplement" thing

Smart poster is smart.

I recall seeing you be helpful often. I just went through 5 pages of your posts and decided you deserve a rep. Be enjoying life my man.

[DerekEt]

Bodybuilding = HEAVY weight, HIGH reps

Powerlifting = HEAVIER weight, LOW reps

You have to continue lifting HEAVY in bodybuilding, I don't know why people think it's some walk in the park to do 6-8 reps or 8-10 reps. It's not Low Weight/Higher Reps, its HEAVY WEIGHT/Higher Reps. "The secret to big legs is not Low Reps and Heavy Weight, or High Reps and Low Weight, it's Heavy Weight and High Reps" - Tom Platz.

When I'm T-BAR and Barbell Rowing in the 6-8 or 8-10 rep range, I am gut busting those reps and yelling toward the end as my face turns red, and afterwards I see stars(ok not every time, but sometimes srs). There seems to be some misconception that you just play with your testes while bodybuilding, I just don't get it lol. Sure, maybe it isn't that bad doing sets of 10-12 reps on Preacher Curls in comparison to 1x5 max Deadlifts, but the overall programming together is still brutal.

[timmzzy1]

Smart poster is smart.

I recall seeing you be helpful often. I just went through 5 pages of your posts and decided you deserve a rep. Be enjoying life my man.

thanks alot man, i try

[BradCathie]

Bodybuilding = HEAVY weight, HIGH reps

Powerlifting = HEAVIER weight, LOW reps

You have to continue lifting HEAVY in bodybuilding, I don't know why people think it's some walk in the park to do 6-8 reps or 8-10 reps. It's not Low Weight/Higher Reps, its HEAVY WEIGHT/Higher Reps. "The secret to big legs is not Low Reps and Heavy Weight, or High Reps and Low Weight, it's Heavy Weight and High Reps" - Tom Platz.

When I'm T-BAR and Barbell Rowing in the 6-8 or 8-10 rep range, I am gut busting those reps and yelling toward the end as my face turns red, and afterwards I see stars(ok not every time, but sometimes srs). There seems to be some misconception that you just play with your testes while bodybuilding, I just don't get it lol. Sure, maybe it isn't that bad doing sets of 10-12 reps on Preacher Curls in comparison to 1x5 max Deadlifts, but the overall programming together is still brutal.

No one has said otherwise since your last post in this thread. While you're here though maybe you can tell me if you were being serious about the weight loss comment then head over to my call out thread and answer that too.

[FeelTheFear]

I doubt he would, mods tend to be against that sort of thing, and he's completely right about the "supplement" thing

I'm like 97.3% sure that was innuendo

[Ka0s]

bump for after I eat

[BradCathie]

Bump for Derek being a little girl and not answering my questions.

[Francis333]

Dat feel when you're toasting in a roll bread and you don't even know it.

Just saw all of your other recent posts.

lol'd

[Saintsqc]

sorry I don't have low self esteem I guess, I'd rather bench 135-185 and be swole rather than fu/ck up every tendon in my upper body trying to prove that I'm "stronger than the majority of people"

Protip: if you can do a pullup you are stronger than the majority of people
if you can do 5 pullups you are stronger than 90% of people

Some people just like to lift heavy stuff. It's fun for them to set PRs and feel stronger.

It's not just about self-esteem...it's about doing something you enjoy and to push yourself beyond your limits.

Same goes with BBers. Why do you need to be swole as fck when nobody care how big you are, exept yourself? Probably because you enjoy the feeling...

[Ka0s]

Being lean/muscular actually has benefits IRL though

[Francis333]

Being lean/muscular actually has benefits IRL though

So does being strong derp

[DerekEt]

Bump for Derek being a little girl and not answering my questions.

First of all, I was asleep. Second of all, don't call me a little girl ,especially when you have lifts equivelant to somebody who has trained for <6 months. It's pretty arrogant and ridiculous of you - namecalling is not necessary. Third, I'm not participating in some "callout thread" you apparently made; I'm not a child. You apparently still haven't grown up despite being 20 years old, it's sad. I hope one day you wisen up, but I'm certainly not dropping to your level and getting involved in any kind of 'callout thread' or 'flame war'. You can keep that kind of behavior with your other teenagers or 10 year old kids. Also, yes, I was being completely serious about the weight loss comment. It is commonly known by over 100+ people on this forum, as well as dozens of eyewitnesses IRL that I dropped from about 215 to 170 pounds while doing pure strength training;but in the midst got tons stronger. Strength = / = size ; it highly depends on how you train. If this is a shocking revelation for you, I suggest you go spend more time, despite the fact you have spent 270 hours "studying this stuff" in your own words. As for now, you are being ignored and I will not participate in any conversations with you. Good luck.

[Saintsqc]

First of all, I was asleep. Second of all, don't call me a little girl ,especially when you have lifts equivelant to somebody who has trained for <6 months. It's pretty arrogant and ridiculous of you - namecalling is not necessary. Third, I'm not participating in some "callout thread" you apparently made; I'm not a child. You apparently still haven't grown up despite being 20 years old, it's sad. I hope one day you wisen up, but I'm certainly not dropping to your level and getting involved in any kind of 'callout thread' or 'flame war'. You can keep that kind of behavior with your other teenagers or 10 year old kids. Also, yes, I was being completely serious about the weight loss comment. It is commonly known by over 100+ people on this forum, as well as dozens of eyewitnesses IRL that I dropped from about 215 to 170 pounds while doing pure strength training;but in the midst got tons stronger. Strength = / = size ; it highly depends on how you train. If this is a shocking revelation for you, I suggest you go spend more time, despite the fact you have spent 270 hours "studying this stuff" in your own words. As for now, you are being ignored and I will not participate in any conversations with you. Good luck.

Damn Derek! You and your walls of text!

BTW, no surprise you didnt gain mass during a cut -_-

[RoyalMarine8]

i didnt say that if you cant it means you have low self esteem, i just meant it can raise it. so wait, i can do 15 pullups, does that make me stronger than 95% of people?

Lol I can do 24 does that make me stronger than 110% of people? Hahaha

[MiscDemeanor]

So does being strong derp

Ka0s is really cute though I can confirm

[MiscDemeanor]

No just Ka0s

[RoyalMarine8]

=/
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Cute? Stfu you look like you ****ing kill people

[timmzzy1]

Lol I can do 24 does that make me stronger than 110% of people? Hahaha

Lol probably

[MrrB]

How much does this apply to 5x5 style training?

[DerekEt]

5x5 (5 working sets of 5 reps) can tie well into high volume, you are getting 25 reps performed at a 75-80% 1RM.

However, you still aren't getting too much "Time-Under-Tension" , which is ideal in bodybuilding. You can alleviate this by simply doing 5x5 on a main movement which already provides for higher volume and sets, and then add accessory.