Why does the left hate right to work laws?

[leafs43]

Left wing is pro-choice for abortion, why are they anti-choice for jobs?


Why should it be required to join a union and be subject to their fees to work a particular job?

[angelora87]

They're not even comparable you right wing lunatic.

[Rexy]

They're not even comparable you right wing lunatic.

how so? Both involve choice, do they not?

[Milo3]

Why are liberals against voting id cards despite them being used in every western lib country they aspire America to be like?

[ProLibertas]

Because unions donate large amounts of money to left wing parties.

[LegendHarry]

Because they are designed to weaken unions. That is their purpose. Of course workers and groups of workers should be against something that leads to lower wages and less freedom at work. You stupid brah?

[leafs43]

Because they are designed to weaken unions. That is their purpose. Of course workers and groups of workers should be against something that leads to lower wages and less freedom at work. You stupid brah?

How is being a free person and not having to join a union going to weaken unions?


If unions are so good, they wouldn't need special privileges to force people into their ranks and pay their union dues with the threat of unemployment or potentially violence.

[Trillonare]

right to work laws lower the wages or EVERYONE union and non union in the state.

[leafs43]

right to work laws lower the wages or EVERYONE union and non union in the state.

Yet more people have jobs.

Why are you against your fellow citizens of finding employment?

[w00tasaurus]

Why are liberals against voting id cards despite them being used in every western lib country they aspire America to be like?

They disproportionately impact the ability to vote/likelihood of voting for minorities (legal citizens), and there isn't evidence of significant fraud to validate their use.

[ProLibertas]

Because they are designed to weaken unions. That is their purpose. Of course workers and groups of workers should be against something that leads to lower wages and less freedom at work. You stupid brah?

More choices aren't less freedom, that makes zero sense, unless you want to change the meaning of the word?

One scenario you're forced to join a union.
Another you're not.

The second one has more choices, which means more freedom, it is very simple.

[Trillonare]

Yet more people have jobs.

Why are you against your fellow citizens of finding employment?

The funny thin about it is the unemployment rate stays the same.

[ERRMAGERDD]

Yet more people have jobs.

Why are you against your fellow citizens of finding employment?

So we should fix a shorter term problem with legislation that hurts the middle class and wages now and in the future?

[ICrapBig]

They disproportionately impact the ability to vote/likelihood of voting for minorities (legal citizens), and there isn't evidence of significant fraud to validate their use.

The world has gone mad...

[w00tasaurus]

The world has gone mad...

Hmm?

[Rexy]

They disproportionately impact the ability to vote/likelihood of voting for minorities (legal citizens), and there isn't evidence of significant fraud to validate their use.

dumbest thing I've read today.

Canada has voter ID laws, minorities still vote too!

[w00tasaurus]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...ng-minorities/

"As many as 700,000 minority voters under age 30 may be unable to cast a ballot in November because of photo ID laws in certain states, according to a new study."

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...ng-minorities/

analysis by Cohen and Rogowski was released this week by the Chicago-based Black Youth Project, a nonpartisan effort launched in 2004 to examine the political participation of African-Americans aged 15 to 25. It estimated that new photo requirements potentially could turn away:

—170,000 to 475,000 young black voters.
—68,000 to 250,000 young Hispanic voters.
—13,000 to 46,000 young Asian-American voters.
—1,700 to 6,400 young Native American voters.
—700 to 2,700 young Pacific Islander voters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1878893.html

In Pennsylvania, where the state Supreme Court recently upheld the state’s photo ID law, an estimated 37,000 to 44,000 minority voters could be affected, the report found.

http://www.democrats.org/the-real-cost-of-photo-id-laws

11 percent of Americans—approximately 23 million citizens of voting age—lack proper photo ID and, as a result, could be turned away from the polls on Election Day.



lettuce not pretend that Republicans favor voter ID laws for any reason other than the people whose votes would be suppressed happen to vote democrat
(yes democrats are against them for the very same reason, but still, opposing voter ID laws supports minorities and their right to vote)

[amtharin]

"As many as 700,000 minority voters under age 30 may be unable to cast a ballot in November because of photo ID laws in certain states, according to a new study."

How many of those people are likely voters?? I imagine the ones who are will take the proper steps in order to vote, just like anyone else.

[ICrapBig]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...ng-minorities/

"As many as 700,000 minority voters under age 30 may be unable to cast a ballot in November because of photo ID laws in certain states, according to a new study."

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...ng-minorities/

analysis by Cohen and Rogowski was released this week by the Chicago-based Black Youth Project, a nonpartisan effort launched in 2004 to examine the political participation of African-Americans aged 15 to 25. It estimated that new photo requirements potentially could turn away:

—170,000 to 475,000 young black voters.
—68,000 to 250,000 young Hispanic voters.
—13,000 to 46,000 young Asian-American voters.
—1,700 to 6,400 young Native American voters.
—700 to 2,700 young Pacific Islander voters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1878893.html

In Pennsylvania, where the state Supreme Court recently upheld the state’s photo ID law, an estimated 37,000 to 44,000 minority voters could be affected, the report found.

http://www.democrats.org/the-real-cost-of-photo-id-laws

11 percent of Americans—approximately 23 million citizens of voting age—lack proper photo ID and, as a result, could be turned away from the polls on Election Day.

Because someone who cant make the effort to secure something as simple as identification is the kind of person we need voting. This makes sense.

You need ID to buy booze FFS, but you dont need it to cast a vote that determines the political direction an entire country takes?

Your desire for absolute fairness over rational common sense are dumbfounding in their stupidity bro.

[Milo3]

They disproportionately impact the ability to vote/likelihood of voting for minorities (legal citizens), and there isn't evidence of significant fraud to validate their use.

WTF...

More like democrats are scared that a good chunk of their supporter base would be too lazy to vote for them. Since when is anyone who's not white not allowed to vote?

How democrats use minorities as a political tool is so disgusting.

The left are absolutely mental haha

[w00tasaurus]

How many of those people are likely voters?? I imagine the ones who are will take the proper steps in order to vote, just like anyone else.

There are fees associated with getting IDs. It takes time out of your day, which you may not be able to afford if you live in poverty and can't take time off work. It takes getting to a DMV which you may not have the means to do. Disabled people and older people also lack IDs in higher numbers and they would have trouble getting them sorted out. There's a great variety of reasons why a person may have difficulty getting an ID.

If there was significant voter fraud, maybe voter ID laws would be necessary. But there's just no evidence that they help.

[w00tasaurus]

WTF...

More like democrats are scared that a good chunk of their supporter base would be too lazy to vote for them. Since when is anyone who's not white not allowed to vote?

How democrats use minorities as a political tool is so disgusting.

The left are absolutely mental haha

You are denying my claim that voter ID laws disproportionately affect minorities? It's not using them as a political tool, it's fact. Try google.

ps age 19

[amtharin]

There are fees associated with getting IDs. It takes time out of your day, which you may not be able to afford if you live in poverty and can't take time off work. It takes getting to a DMV which you may not have the means to do. Disabled people and older people also lack IDs in higher numbers and they would have trouble getting them sorted out. There's a great variety of reasons why a person may have difficulty getting an ID.

If there was significant voter fraud, maybe voter ID laws would be necessary. But there's just no evidence that they help.

Not in my state, you get it for free if you cant afford it.

[amtharin]

"As many as 700,000 minority voters under age 30 may be unable to cast a ballot

How many white people under the age of 30 may be unable to cast a ballot??

[w00tasaurus]

Not in my state, you get it for free if you cant afford it.

Obtaining photo ID can be costly and burdensome, with even free state ID requiring documents like a birth certificate that can cost up to $25 in some places. According to a study from NYU's Brennan Center, 11 percent of voting-age citizens lack necessary photo ID while many people in rural areas have trouble accessing ID offices.

http://www.propublica.org/article/ev...-voter-id-laws

[amtharin]

Obtaining photo ID can be costly and burdensome, with even free state ID requiring documents like a birth certificate that can cost up to $25 in some places. According to a study from NYU's Brennan Center, 11 percent of voting-age citizens lack necessary photo ID while many people in rural areas have trouble accessing ID offices.

http://www.propublica.org/article/ev...-voter-id-laws

Stop being a parrot. Many poor people have IDs. The people you are referring to are not likely voters, so of course they have not taken the appropriate steps to vote like everyone else.

If one of your main argument is that it cost money, yet they are being give to people for free, then you're pretty much done on that point man.

[w00tasaurus]

Stop being a parrot. Many poor people have IDs. The people you are referring to are not likely voters, so of course they have not taken the appropriate steps to vote like everyone else.

If one of your main argument is that it cost money, yet they are being give to people for free, then you're pretty much done on that point man.

Do you deny that the reason Republican politicians support voter ID laws is to suppress the votes of those who lean Democrat?

[amtharin]

Do you deny that the reason Republican politicians support voter ID laws is to suppress the votes of those who lean Democrat?

Do you deny that the reason democrat politicians oppose commons sense laws is in order to secure segments of their base?

[ICrapBig]

Do you deny that the reason Republican politicians support voter ID laws is to suppress the votes of those who lean Democrat?

You are insane

The only reason why the Dems are making a mockery of the whole voter ID thing is BECAUSE the vast majority of those voters are going to cast votes in their favor! Only a liberal can accuse the opposition of acting out of self interest when they are guilty of the exact same thing.

This is not about partisan politics, its about common sense. How the hell are we allowing people to vote if they cant produce valid identification? Why would we want people who cant be bothered to secure identification to vote?

[ek1386]

How many white people under the age of 30 may be unable to cast a ballot??

Obviously not enough for the left to bother pandering to them...