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    Originally Posted by DanielEver View Post
    he grew bigger and better than everyone else, that's pretty much it.
    oh yeah just go ahead and casually post like that isn't a big deal lmao
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    Originally Posted by FAN0FdaSport View Post
    oh yeah just go ahead and casually post like that isn't a big deal lmao
    it is a big deal, like in case with any top athlete, but I don't share the opinion that we should embrace this achievment as something unimaginable
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    Originally Posted by DanielEver View Post
    it is a big deal, like in case with any top athlete, but I don't share the opinion that we should embrace this achievment as something unimaginable
    it kinda is...

    so far we've had things like this mentioned: only ronnie put it all together, levrone had injuries, flex didn't diet, cedric has a job, etc. Its kinda hilarious when you see ronnie working as a cop for 8hr shifts eating bbq sauce on his chicken. Did anyone know he had disc problems with his back since 96? Excuses and "ifs", ronnie gave zero fuks about them
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    Originally Posted by TTimmerman View Post
    history says arnold competed in less shows than Coleman...
    Not positive what ur getting at but my point was take the best those guys ever brought. That would be the placings, Arnold 4th, haney 3rd dorian 2nd coleman 1st. Disregarding any bias and politics. So history says someone will bring a package better than colemans best.
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    Originally Posted by Daewoo_Lanos View Post
    go through bodybuilding history and see how long it took before the 'best physique ever' at the time was surpassed by future competitors.

    it has been 14 years since his first Olympia win and no one has even matched that physique yet, let alone him at his peak.

    all the factors have to be in place for it to happen. it's not just genetic potential because we have the only man who can potentially reach that level already in the pros, but his career is holding him back.

    people with the genetics to excel at a particular sport generally tend to find themselves gravitating toward/competing in it. so sure there might be come guy freak out there who refuses to ride a bike or diet down and we miss out on him, but odds are guys like that are into bodybuilding. i fail to believe he's just out there delivering mail and doing 400 lb bent over rows for fun after work.

    it took all this time just to find someone with ronnie-like potential. if cedric doesn't reach that level, there will likely never be another coleman. or maybe he'll come around in 2028 and not have an 80 hour per week job that forces him to train in the dark half the time.
    They tend to gravitate towards it *if* they're into competitive sports. Not everyone is. Lots of people just lift to be in shape as a hobby, not as a career or something (especially given that in bodybuilding, you have to win or be close to winning to make money off shows, and not everyone can get a sponsor).

    There's more to it than just "well if you have good genetics, you're more likely to compete in that sport" - that's just *one* thing that factors into it.
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