Check out Martin Berkham from Lean gains take on Alcohol and fat loss.
Good read
But basically it's calories so if your trying to loose weight drinking/eating that much calories will make it next to impossible. I've given up beer for awhile since cutting. But occasionally will have a vodka soda or wine because they have a lot less calories.
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Thread: Beer drinking and fitness?
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12-06-2012, 12:38 PM #31LBS - BF Date Comment
185.2- 23.8% 02/01/2012<started cardio/ate better
175.4- 19.9% 04/04/2012<added weights 2/w
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165.4- 18.0% 10/09/2012<started All pro - Simple Beginner's
159.2- 16.4% 11/01/2012<dexa scan at 18.3%
140.4- 12.9% 02/21/2013
137.5- 9.9% 03/01/2013 <dexa scan at 6.7%!
155- 12.0% 07/07/2013<slowbulk/recomp/maint?
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12-06-2012, 12:52 PM #32
Your right and I really do appreciate your input and I do need to make better choices as far as my weekend beer drinking habits go. I understand my weekly calorie deficit is very important if I'm gonna lose weight.
There is no way I could weigh 165 trust me I may be fat but I got plenty of muscle underneath it as I'm sure has been said before but true in my case. I would be ripped outta my mind at 180 or 185.
Only called you a tool because of the "you don't have to drink to have fun" comment considering I'm older than you but thanks again I really do appreciate your input every little bit I can learn helps.Last edited by bdub2283; 12-06-2012 at 01:19 PM.
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12-06-2012, 01:02 PM #33
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12-06-2012, 01:03 PM #34
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12-06-2012, 01:04 PM #35
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12-06-2012, 01:26 PM #36
I guess that depends on what they have a "lot less calories" than. Do they have a lot less calories than a 20 piece chicken McNugget? Sure. Than your typical light beer? No way.
Alcohol is approximately 7 cal/g. That doesn't change if it comes from beer, wine, or liquor. FWIW, vodka is about 80-90 cals in a shot, and wine is 110 cals in a glass. (Light beer 90-100 cals per can/bottle).
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12-06-2012, 01:29 PM #37
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12-06-2012, 02:00 PM #38
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I can bench press 260 lbs. That's 1.44 times my bodyweight when I set the PR. For you, you'd have to bench 381 lbs to be considered equally strong. And yes, actually me having spent 1000 hours reading on this forum DOES mean I probably know more than you, unless you've spent that much time researching and discussing in other venues. I use an adjustment of 10 lbs per inch. So your equivalent weight for me being 160 is about 180-190.
Nothing I said in my first post warrants a personal attack, but since you did attack me, enjoy some red squares you fat p.o.s. alcoholic.Last edited by kanis999; 12-06-2012 at 02:06 PM.
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12-06-2012, 02:09 PM #39
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12-06-2012, 02:54 PM #41
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12-06-2012, 02:56 PM #42
You can still drink, you just have to keep yourself in a caloric deficit to loose fat. So if I know I'm going out to drink I'll burn extra calories the night before or if I have a weeks notice, I'd add a little bit of extra cardio in each day.
1 x James Squire Sundown Lager (I drink this) = 131 calories each
So if I want to drink a six pack I'd burn a extra 131 calories each day so I can drink a 6 pack on the weekend.
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12-06-2012, 02:57 PM #43
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12-06-2012, 03:41 PM #44
Perhaps it is normal in your town to drink 19 drinks in a weekend but that is pretty excessive to the majority of people. Hell, I live in an area where alcohol DAILY is the normal (French culture) and that would still shock most people here. If you have a wife and kids, then I'm guessing you are old enough for that to hit you pretty hard and we don't exactly recover great as we age either.
Try 1-2 beers on a weekend and see how that goes. If you can't stick to it then yes, there's a problem there. Whether it's being unable to eat or drink in moderation or having a problem with alcohol, I don't know, but yes, you are completely blowing your calorie deficits by doing this.
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12-06-2012, 04:26 PM #45
It can be done, but you better have a very active job, workout hard, and eat right.
You must burn all those cals some how.
I understand where op is comming from, I am down almost 100 lbs, drinking 24-48 light beers every weekend. Yes, I would have been a lot easier if I did not drink, but it is my choice.
I was drinking everyday, and was almost 300lbs, I cut all that out, only drink on Friday and Saturdays.
I have a very active job, I try to eat right, and can easily drop fat and still drink.
Not saying it is good, but can be done.
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12-06-2012, 05:25 PM #46
I apologize if I offended you in any way just wanted to know your strength cause its the only way I could kinda judge your muscle mass compared to mine.
It's really not fair to say " op has a wake up call coming" or "fat dudes always say that" I've been lifting weights on and off for quite some time over the last 15 years so you guys have no idea how much muscle I have accumulated and what kind of build I have.
I have been doing tons of research over the last year and have been training hard for 10 months and I know my body pretty well. I can currently bench 325lbs, incline 285, squat 390 so I would say I'm relatively strong compared to an average man.
When I was 22 I weighed 202 and could see my upper abs ever so slightly and figured another 20lbs I would be relatively cut. I have at least 10 to 12lbs more muscle on my body now so in my estimation 180 or 185 I would be pretty cut up. I could be wrong but we will see cause I'm not stopping till I get there.
Again thanks for the input it is much appreciated.
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12-06-2012, 05:37 PM #47
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12-06-2012, 11:32 PM #48
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12-07-2012, 12:01 AM #49
I like it when I binge drink and wake up the next day dehydrated as **** and weighing 2-3lbs less than normal.
Sorry I don't have much more to add to this topic... drinking alcohol will slow your progress. But consuming 3k cal of alcohol then eating a dirty kebab or whatever on a weekend isn't just a cheat day, it's a complete brick wall in your progress.
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12-07-2012, 12:12 AM #50
As for strength/muscle size wise...I've been in France since August thus making it legal to drink (18+) for me, and have drinkin' to at least the point of being buzzed (probably 7 drinks total) and though I'm ashamed to admit it, have even gotten wasted a few times, almost every weekend.
However, since arriving here I've made heaps of gains through the bodybuilding template of 5/3/1 (strength and size wise, although I'm still small and weak) even with drinking being newly added into my diet. I've noticed that I have gained more fat, but that could also be from the pounds of cheese, wine, desserts, and bread I've eaten.
Just my two cents; hope it could help someone a little bit!
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12-07-2012, 01:53 AM #51
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12-07-2012, 02:14 AM #52
if done in moderation it can be done, but this is not a case of it
lets say for arguments sake you are running @ 500 under maintenance diet, you would basically end up putting it back on on the week end + more
never under estimate those munchies, its possible you could be eating 1000 cals worth of food on top of the 2500 cals worth of alcohol/beer
so if you intend to keep going, enjoy reaching the 300lb club
however, if you want to lose weight, you will need to reign in the amount you drink
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12-07-2012, 06:20 AM #53
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I tried to find that and couldn't. My research skills are novice still. Thanks for the link! Repped.
I think the main point is that you can make progress on weight loss and still drink (as long as it fits your caloric limits). However, if you were to swear off alcohol or make it occasional, your progress would likely be swifter.
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12-07-2012, 06:22 AM #54
Honestly I have been drinking beer every weekend since I started training back in February and I weighed 300lbs when I started, lol. I now weigh 265 so I have lost weight while drinking but my progress has come to a stand still so I'm gonna have to really slow down and make better choices so I can keep progressing.
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12-07-2012, 06:26 AM #55
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12-07-2012, 06:46 AM #56
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i had this problem too, then i realised light beers are cheap and u can still get tipsy of 10 beers which is about 1000 cals.. just run throughout the week, and you won't have a problem.. but over drinking and eating afterwards will catch up to you
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12-07-2012, 07:04 AM #57
Im new to this site, and new to weight lifting and being healthy. But after reading this, Im kinda scratching my head. If you guys are drinking 2 12 packs a weekend, obviously you are TRYING to get drunk. Why not take 6-7 shots and have the same effect, and cut your calories down from 1700 to 300. Just a thought. The only generic advice I could offer would be to cut back. Liquor before beer your in the clear! Get drunk then sip on beer with your buddies!
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12-07-2012, 07:15 AM #58
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