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    Bloats N Hoes

    This will be the training log for myself (Jason) and WizardFight (Jake). We will record our pathetic lifts as we strive to be stronger than 12-year old girls. More importantly, we will discuss our gluttony as we devour mac n cheese and burritos in pursuit of a massive bloat. I will outline my routine shortly and hopefully Jake will chime in at some point.
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    So I'm supposed to be teaching right now, but I gave my students some practice problems to work on so I figured I would post my routine. Currently, I am doing a push/pull/legs split with an extra fourth day for whatever else I feel like doing. I'll also attempt to mix in some conditioning/cardio as my conditioning blows.
    My main goals right now are to rehab my shoulder, add some mass to my upper body, start squatting in Chuck's again and eventually squat how I used to when I was actually somewhat strong. Expect to see tons of hypertrophy work for my upper body so I don't further aggravate my shoulder. Squats will be light for now while I transition back to my old form.
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    Funny you should mention conditioning. I am currently in the second and final week of my "Don't call it crossfit...seriously, that's not funny" block. After finishing my last strength phase, I decided that I needed to address my lagging GPP. So recently, my workouts have resembled circuit training more than powerlifting - lots of supersets with minimal rest periods. I can already tell a difference. Each workout I feel less and less like barfing. The downside: these workouts are BORING. I'm glad to be getting back to real weights soon. Here is an example of these GPP workouts:

    12 reps each exercise, with 30-60 sec rest between supersets. 3 supersets total, then 2-3 min rest before moving on to the next exercises.
    Goblet Squat/DB Bench
    GM/BB Row
    Back Raise/Band pullaparts
    Standing Abs/Tricep Ext


    Starting next Monday, I will be back to the good old conjugate method. Here's my planned split:
    Monday: ME Lower (alternating squat or deadlift focus each week)
    Tuesday: Off or light recovery workout
    Wednesday: ME Upper
    Thursday: DE Lower
    Friday: Off
    Saturday: Recovery workout/GPP
    Sunday: DE Lower

    Once the strength block begins, my GPP work will be the more typical powerlifter-style conditioning: Sandbag carries, sled dragging, speed eating, etc.
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    Well, school for tomorrow has already been canceled due to the coming winter storm, although it hasn't snowed AT ALL yet! Bunch of pussies down here in Nebraska. Oh well, at least I get a day off. Hopefully the school gym is open so I can at least get a lift in tomorrow.

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    Starting next Monday, I will be back to the good old conjugate method. Here's my planned split:
    Monday: ME Lower (alternating squat or deadlift focus each week)
    Tuesday: Off or light recovery workout
    Wednesday: ME Upper
    Thursday: DE Lower
    Friday: Off
    Saturday: Recovery workout/GPP
    Sunday: DE Lower

    Once the strength block begins, my GPP work will be the more typical powerlifter-style conditioning: Sandbag carries, sled dragging, speed eating, etc.
    I see you are doing 2 DE Lower days, is this the new Westside template? Speed eating sounds fun to me, we should have a meat-eating contest (no homo).

    Also those conditioning workouts you're doing look rough. Hopefully you've been eating a ton so you don't lose too much weight. I'm planning to add in kettlebell swings and such for my conditioning, should be fun...
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    Yep Louie called me the other night and was explaining their new training methodology: "On the second DE Lower day you do good mornings, stand-up benchpress machine, uh... good mornings....I'm 57 years old!" But really, Sunday is supposed to be DE Upper.

    I'm glad to be almost done with conditioning. For my last couple workouts this week I am transitioning back into a normal exercise selection, just with lighter weight/short rest periods.

    Thursday 2/21/13

    Conv DL
    135x5
    185x5
    225x5
    275x5
    315x5
    225x5
    135x5
    Rest was just long enough to change the weights

    Did these for 3x12
    Snatch Grip Deads
    Standing Abs
    Back Raise
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    Saturday 2/23/13

    Did a light extra workout - 4x12 of each of the following:
    Cable Row
    Back Raise
    Hanging Leg Raise
    Standing Calves


    Sunday 2/24/13

    Last conditioning workout. I used a more typical exercise selection again as a transition back into normal training.

    Superset 1
    DB Bench
    Rear DB Raise

    Superset 2
    OH Press
    Pullups

    Superset 3
    Face Pulls
    Tricep Pressdown

    Finished with one giant set of hammer curls.
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    Solid workouts. Do you think all this conditioning work will help? Also, do you think you'll be able to maintain your improved level of conditioning when you drop the supersets and go back to normal training? Either way I'm going to steal your superset idea for a little while. I always tell myself I'll do some conditioning after I lift, but I usually spend so much time lifting that I don't want to stick around longer for conditioning.
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    2/26/2013 - Upper

    Face Pulls
    5x15-20

    Superset - DB Bench + DB Row
    40's 3x12 -> 70 3x12
    50's 1x15 -> 70 1x20

    Superset - Plate Raise + DB Skullcrushers
    25 4x15 - > 25's 4x12

    Superset - Side Laterals + BB Curls
    4x12 -> 4x10

    Pull-ups
    bw 3x8
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    I'm hoping it will make a difference. My rest times between sets have been getting longer and longer lately - but not by choice. My goal was just to get conditioned enough that I could shorten those rest periods a bit and keep my workouts to a reasonable length.

    For the near future, I will continue to superset my accessory work (or at least keep rest times short). I think that doing this, coupled with a bit of dragging/carrying/sprinting/something once a week, should help keep me jacked and tan for a while. We'll see how long my conditioning lasts - I know it will slowly decline.

    Have fun with your supersets. Remember that you have to do each workout completely clad in spandex!
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    Back to normal training. I had to shift all my workouts by a day thanks to some school stuff this week.

    Tuesday 2/26/13

    Close-stance Squat
    135 2x5
    185 2x5
    225 2x3
    245x3
    265x3
    285x3
    Stance was very close for me. Shoulder-width or just a bit inside. Felt this a lot in my low back since I didn't adjust my bar position at all.

    GM
    135x8
    185 4x6

    Single Leg Press
    3x8

    Standing Abs
    100-something 4x8



    Thursday 2/28/13

    Close-grip Bench
    95x5
    135x5
    165x3
    185x3
    195x3
    205x1
    155x8

    Mini Band Pull-aparts
    Done in between bench sets
    5x10

    BB Row
    95x10
    135x10
    145x8
    155x6
    165x6

    Superset
    DB Skullcrushers: 20 4x15
    DB Side Raise: 10 4x12
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    Friday 3/1/13

    Speed Squat
    205 8x2

    Speed DL
    265 8x1

    ...and then the gym closed. Spring break starts tomorrow, which apparently means they needed to close early last Friday.

    I can tell the conditioning work did something - I was able to breeze through the speed sets. I'm going to try bumping up the percentages on my DE lifts a bit. I will be working in the 60-70% range, as recommended for RAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW lifters. We'll see what happens.


    Saturday 3/2/13
    Did some band work for hamstrings/low back to make up for Friday, and also a bunch of foam rolling


    Sunday 3/3/13

    Speed Bench
    145 9x3 (3 grips)

    OH Press
    45, 65, 85 x8 each
    95 3x8

    Pullups
    Done between pressing sets
    5x5

    Cable Row
    120x12
    130x10
    140x8

    Face Pull -> Tricep Pressdown Superset
    50 3x12 -> 70x20,18,16

    Bought a rotisserie chicken tonight. I set aside one breast for lunch tomorrow, then ate the rest of it for dinner with some biscuits and veggies. Feels good man (except the veggies).
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    Friday 3/1/13

    ...and then the gym closed. Spring break starts tomorrow, which apparently means they needed to close early last Friday.

    I can tell the conditioning work did something - I was able to breeze through the speed sets. I'm going to try bumping up the percentages on my DE lifts a bit. I will be working in the 60-70% range, as recommended for RAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW lifters. We'll see what happens.

    Bought a rotisserie chicken tonight. I set aside one breast for lunch tomorrow, then ate the rest of it for dinner with some biscuits and veggies. Feels good man (except the veggies).
    Damn you guys have an early spring break, we still have 2 more weeks of school until ours. You mad about eating veggies bro? What's wrong with veggies? What veggies were you eating?
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    Got a couple workout to post so here we go. I guess I need to be better about updating this.

    2/28/2013 - Lower

    Squat - Low bar, wide stance
    135 2x8
    185 3x5
    225 3x5

    Superset - Snatch Grip RDL + Decline Situp
    135 4x10 -> 12.5 4x12

    Superset - Leg Press + Back Raise
    8 plates 3x12 -> 25 3x12

    Squatting in Chuck's again with a lower bar position and a wider stance feels super weird after squatting olympic style for a couple months. My posterior chain is definitely weak, so it will probably be a while until I'm moving some decent weight. I also can feel my quads wanting to take over when I squat, so I'm trying to avoid that.


    3/1/2013 - Upper

    Superset - Bench Press + BB Row
    95 4x12 -> 135 4x12

    Superset - Skullcrusher + Chuck V Row
    55 4x12 -> stack 4x15

    Superset - Pushup + Band Lateral Raise
    bw 4x20 -> mini 4x12

    Band Pullaparts
    mini 4x25

    Shoulder has been feeling much better lately, but I still don't want to push it too much when it comes to benching.
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    Veggies are good for the most part. I was eating raw broccoli, which I find a bit boring. Usually I cook it and season it up a bit.

    Good couple workouts. Fight those quads! I bet your posterior chain strength will come back pretty quickly. How long are you planning to stay on dat superset time?
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    Monday 3/4/13

    Paused Sumo DL
    135x5
    185x5
    225x3
    275x3
    315x3
    365x3

    Pulled up to just below my knees, held it for a two-count, then locked it out. This was my first time doing this exercise, but I'm already a big fan. I'll be keeping these in my rotation.

    Snatch-grip Deadlift -> Hanging Leg Raise
    135 4x8 -> 4x8

    Band Leg Curl
    mini 4x20
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    Wednesday 3/6/13

    Paused Bench
    95x5
    135x5
    155x3
    175x3
    185x3
    195x3
    205x3
    155x10 - pauses were a bit shorter here...

    Long pause on the chest. I noticed that on a couple sets I would press the bar straight up for the first inch or two off my chest and then start to drift back, rather than pressing back from the start. I think this could have something to do with poor lat engagement, because the problem went away when I focused on upper back/lat tightness. But I could be wrong.

    Mini Band Pull-aparts
    Done between bench sets
    4x10

    Lat Pulldown
    100x10
    120 2x8
    130 2x8
    Did a few scap retractions after finishing the last two sets

    DB Side Raise -> DB Curl Superset
    12 4x12 -> 20 4x12

    External Rotations
    20 4x12
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    Originally Posted by WizardFight View Post
    Veggies are good for the most part. I was eating raw broccoli, which I find a bit boring. Usually I cook it and season it up a bit.

    Good couple workouts. Fight those quads! I bet your posterior chain strength will come back pretty quickly. How long are you planning to stay on dat superset time?
    I'm not sure. I was originally just going to use it for conditioning, but it's allowed me to get through my workouts quicker which has been nice, so I may keep them in permanently.

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    Pulled up to just below my knees, held it for a two-count, then locked it out. This was my first time doing this exercise, but I'm already a big fan. I'll be keeping these in my rotation.
    Nice pulls. Paused deads can be pretty tough.
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    3/4/2013

    Sumo Deads
    275 10x1

    Narrow Squat - Chucks
    135 2x10
    185 3x10

    Side Bends
    bar 3x25

    Got to the gym late so I had to rush. Also had to use the damn dodecagon shaped plates. Fukin skanks.


    3/5/2013

    Face Pulls
    5x 15-20

    Superset - DB Bench + DB Row
    45's 4x12 -> 75 4x12

    Superset - Front Raise + DB Curl
    20's 4x15 -> 20's 4x12

    Superset - CG Bench + Side Laterals
    115 4x10 -> 15's 4x12

    Lat Pulldown
    4x10

    Lots of fine pussy in the gym tonight, made it a bit tough to focus.
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    Lots of fine pussy in the gym tonight, made it a bit tough to focus.
    Is it campus-wide ab week? Gotta get that beach bod ready for spring break.
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    Thursday 3/7/13

    Couple sets of front squat to warm up.

    Speed Squat
    215 8x2

    Speed Deadlift
    285 8x1

    Single Leg Press
    4x12-15

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    4x8
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    Originally Posted by WizardFight View Post
    Is it campus-wide ab week? Gotta get that beach bod ready for spring break.
    Did not even think of that, but I'm sure that's the reason.

    Got a couple workouts to log so here we go.


    3/7/2013

    Leg Press
    4 plates 1x10
    6 plates 2x10
    8 plates 2x10
    10 plates 2x10
    dat pump

    Leg Curl
    4x8-12

    Squat - narrow
    135x10
    185 2x10
    225 2x10

    Superset - Side Bends + Ab wheel
    bar 3x20 -> bw 3x12

    Short on time again. Legs swole as fuk.



    3/8/2013

    CG Bench
    95x 20,18,15 RP

    BB Curl
    65x 15,12,9 RP

    Superset - Smith BTN Press + DB Skullcrusher
    some weight 4x12 -> 25's 4x10

    Superset - Side Laterals + DB Curls
    4x12 -> 4x10



    3/10/2013

    Face Pull
    5x15-20

    Pull-ups w/ 4 second negative
    bw 6x4
    fuark these killed my lats and arms

    BB Row
    175x 18,15,10 RP

    BB Shrug
    135 2x20
    185 2x20

    Superset - Lat Pulldown + Rear Delts
    4x12 -> 15's 4x10

    The pull-ups torched everything, especially my forearms which made it tough to hold on to anything for the rest of the workout. Also loving the RP work I started putting in, **** is awesome.
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    Dat pump is right. I forgot all about RP stuff, I might throw some into my rep work here and there.
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    Sunday 3/10/13

    Mini band pullaparts
    4x12

    Speed Bench
    155 9x3

    OH Press
    up to 105 4x6

    Pullups
    In between pressing sets
    5x5

    Tricep Pressdown -> Face Pulls
    70x20,18,16,16 -> 50 4x12


    Monday 3/11/13

    Squat
    135 2x5
    185 2x5
    225x3
    255x3
    275x1
    295x1
    315x1
    All beltless. Felt better than expected.

    GM
    135x8
    185x6
    205 3x6

    DB Side Bends
    70 4x8

    Back Raise
    3x15


    Wednesday 3/13/13


    Bench
    95x5
    135x5
    165x3
    185x3
    205x2
    225 3x1

    Mini band pullaparts
    Done between bench sets
    5x12

    BB Row
    115x8
    135x8
    145x8
    135x8
    115x8

    Busy couple days, so just hit my main movements.


    Friday 3/15/13

    Speed Squat
    225 8x3

    Speed DL
    305 8x1

    Standing Abs
    5x8

    Again, just wanted to get the basics done.
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    Originally Posted by GraspingAir View Post

    Superset - Side Bends + Ab wheel
    bar 3x20 -> bw 3x12
    Do you have a real ab wheel, or do you just use a barbell?
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    Sunday 3/17/13

    Rear Raise
    10s 3x12

    Speed Bench
    165 9x3 (3 different grips)

    OH Press
    45,65x8
    85x6
    95x6
    105x6
    115x6
    95x8

    Pullups
    Done between pressing
    3x5, 2x6

    External rotations -> Tricep Extension
    20 4x12 -> 80x20,17,16,14
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    Monday 3/18/13

    Deficit Sumo DL
    Done using 35s rather than 45s
    115x5
    185x5
    255x3
    325x3
    345x3
    375x3

    Hips were fried after this.

    Good Mornings
    135x6
    185 3x6
    135x8

    Front Squat
    95 2x8
    135 2x6

    Decline Situps
    4x8

    Felt pretty crappy today, so I tried not to run myself into the ground.
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    Originally Posted by WizardFight View Post
    Do you have a real ab wheel, or do you just use a barbell?
    We have a real ab wheel, the thing is awesome. If you don't do them you should... also try side bends with a barbell.

    Nice couple workouts and nice deficit deads, I'm jelly that you guys got 35's. Do you front squat in Chuck's?
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    I will have to throw them in my rotation, but using a barbell since we don't have an ab wheel. The side bends will also be a good addition to break up my ab work monotony.

    I do my front squats in Chucks. It feels a bit odd if I try to go heavy, but usually I am just using them as assistance work so it doesn't bother me.


    Had to shift my workouts by a day last week:

    Thursday 3/20/13

    Paused bench
    45 2x6
    95x5
    135x5
    155x3
    175x3
    185x3
    200x3
    210x3

    Mini Band Pullaparts
    Done between bench sets
    5x12

    BB Row
    115x10
    135x8
    145x8
    155x6

    DB Side Raise -> BB Curl
    10s 4x12 -> 45 4x10


    Friday 3/22/13

    Speed Squat
    205 10x2

    Speed DL
    265 10x1

    DB Side Bends
    70 4x8

    Bulgarian Squat
    3x6

    Grabbed a double-meat burrito from Chipotle on my way home and washed it down with some whole chocolate milk. Felt good man.


    Sunday 3/24/13

    Speed Bench
    145 9x3

    Mini band Pullaparts
    Done between bench sets
    5x12

    OH Press
    45x8
    65x8
    85x6
    95x6
    105x6
    115x6

    Pullups
    Done between pressing sets
    5x6

    External rotations -> Tricep pressdowns
    20 4x10 -> 80x20,18,15
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    Strong paused bench, I am impress. Also, how do you think the speed work is benefiting your raw strength?

    I've been a bit lazy with posting my workouts these last 2 weeks, but I'll start posting them again for this week. Got 2 workouts in already that I'll post shortly.
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    Thanks Joben.

    I think the speed work will have a better effect with the new higher percentages (60-70%). I really didn't feel like I was doing anything cycling 50-60%. I would get done with my sets and not be tired at all. I read something by Brandon Lilly a couple months ago and he mentioned his percentages for speed work were a bit higher. Then I went back to read some of Louie's articles and saw that he recommended raw lifters add a minimum of 10% to the recommended DE percentages. I am still in the early stages of my experiment, but so far I like it. That extra 10% on the bar coupled with the short rest periods means I am actually a bit tired for the last few sets - tired enough that I need to focus on my technique and on keeping my bar speed up. At 50-60%, I never really had to think about either speed or technique. The other thing I need to do more frequently is work up to a heavier set or two after all my speed sets.

    I'm planning to do another mini-bulk before the weather gets too hot and I lose my appetite. So in a couple weeks I will go back to alternating DE and RE cycles, and may drop the DE altogether.

    No workouts to post (deloading), instead here's some new Kylesa:

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