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    Hey you!

    I'm sorry your workout felt ****ty. The bright side...you did it and you have no broken bones! I totally understand about being frustrated but try not to beat yourself up over it.

    I feel like I don't have anything really to contribute so I tried with the above lol.
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    Originally Posted by izzygrant View Post
    Wednesday Feb 18

    Yeah I gotta stop driving myself into the ground like this. Just incredibly frustrated with tonight and with being so goddamn weak and failing conservative weights on a proper rep setup. I'm not even trying to max like an idiot anymore and still things go wrong. I know you're probably all annoyed with me doing this same stupid sh!t all the time and not listening, I'm not expecting sympathy.

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    85 fail, got scared of it and dumped it forward like a bitch
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    55 x5 x3 supposed to be x5
    55 x4 x1 failed the last rep and dropped weight for the 5th set
    50 x4 failed the last rep anyway, 10 RPE, was not a bitch just sucked

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    Originally Posted by izzygrant View Post
    ... there's another way to do it?
    Not that I'm aware of.
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    Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Hey you!

    I'm sorry your workout felt ****ty. The bright side...you did it and you have no broken bones! I totally understand about being frustrated but try not to beat yourself up over it.

    I feel like I don't have anything really to contribute so I tried with the above lol.
    oh lawd don't jinx me!! lol thanks for the effort. log some of your workouts so i can return the favour!

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    You are starting to sound like me.....and you used to give me **** all the time lol

    Oh how things change Izzy Wizzy
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    Squat Day

    Thursday Feb 20

    One more 5x5 squat day before a deload this weekend.

    Warmup
    5 mins elliptical
    no static stretching

    HB Back Squats
    45 x8
    65 x8
    85 x6
    100 x5 x5 sets across
    95 x5

    Front Squats
    75 x1 w/ 5 second pause
    85 x3 w/ 5 second pause x2 sets

    Accessory Circuit
    assisted pull-ups 10 x4
    face pulls 30 x10 x3
    decline situps 15 x4

    P/Rehab
    band pullaparts, btn band pullaparts, OH band pullaparts
    shoulder dislocations with pvc pipe
    shoulder/back/chest dynamic and suspended stretching with band attached to pull-up bars
    rumble and ball rolling, lat and glute focus

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    Originally Posted by izzygrant View Post
    Thursday Feb 20

    One more 5x5 squat day before a deload this weekend.

    Warmup
    5 mins elliptical
    no static stretching

    HB Back Squats
    45 x8
    65 x8
    85 x6
    100 x5 x5 sets across
    95 x5

    Front Squats
    75 x1 w/ 5 second pause
    85 x3 w/ 5 second pause x2 sets

    Accessory Circuit
    assisted pull-ups 10 x4
    face pulls 30 x10 x3
    decline situps 15 x4

    P/Rehab
    band pullaparts, btn band pullaparts, OH band pullaparts
    shoulder dislocations with pvc pipe
    shoulder/back/chest dynamic and suspended stretching with band attached to pull-up bars
    rumble and ball rolling, lat and glute focus

    no cardio

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    Nice vids!! Form looks good but what do I know? I'll leave that to the "experts".

    Nice socks!

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    Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Nice vids!! Form looks good but what do I know? I'll leave that to the "experts".

    Nice socks!

    Nice as$$!

    Thanks lady! I feel much better about it than my previous squat form, and lemme tell you, it is a hell of a lot easier when you don't have to grind your way up out of a partial GM every single rep and can actually get some bounce out of the bottom. Also I should have stopped trying for vanity maxes every session and put in some solid work at 5x5 a long time ago. Live and learn. I'm too stubborn.

    The socks are a bit much probably but they keep the ace bandages over my knees in place so they're functional. Srs. I need to get myself some rehbands still.
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    this. Looks lIke you're breaking the knees first and not sitting back. Your knees travel pretty far out too
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    this. Looks lIke you're breaking the knees first and not sitting back. Your knees travel pretty far out too
    That's how alot of Olympic lifters squat.



    Knees go forward, hips go straight down, and they don't really drive the knees way out.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    That's how alot of Olympic lifters squat.

    Knees go forward, hips go straight down, and they don't really drive the knees way out.
    didn't know that. How come?
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    didn't know that. How come?
    replicates the clean position better.
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    didn't know that. How come?
    It lets you stay far more upright then breaking at the hips does.
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    didn't know that. How come?
    Originally Posted by austin.j.taylor View Post
    replicates the clean position better.
    Originally Posted by CuriousGM View Post
    It lets you stay far more upright then breaking at the hips does.
    This and this. Really, the only reason an Olympic lifter does back squats, front squats, or overhead squats is to build their clean & jerk and snatch. So they want to mimic the lift as much as possible. Hence the upright position, going all the way down to mimic the catch position, and usually the same stance as well.
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    also, I've never had any luck with low bar back squats, perhaps because i just suck.

    here's some more video. a terrible powerish clean and jerk, and probably the best snatch i've done to date. snatch has actual hip extension!!!!

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    Looking better, but you still need to stay more upright, you let your chest drop on some of the reps.

    But compared to a couple weeks ago it's a vast improvement.
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    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    Looking better, but you still need to stay more upright, you let your chest drop on some of the reps.

    But compared to a couple weeks ago it's a vast improvement.
    Smart man. He sees what others don't seem to see.
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    Originally Posted by izzygrant View Post

    [youtube]_EoE4BUmfkA[youtube]


    You're not sitting "between" your legs which is causing you to lean forward, it's not a big deal with light weights but at heavier weights you'll be very unstable; I'll let Lu Xi demonstrate what I mean by between your legs.

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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Smart man. He sees what others don't seem to see.
    I'm either smart or just have too much time on my hands. Either is possible haha.


    CuriousGM has it right as well. Still kinda need to be willing to drop between your legs, but that will come with more practice.

    The fact you don't have horrible hyper-extension and a near horizontal back angle is a good start.

    Am I right to assume in that angle from behind that your toes are pointing nearly straight forward?

    I can't get the video to work again; however, to me it looks like they are.

    If that's the case you should rotate them out to around 25-35 degrees depending on comfort.

    This will allow you to shove your knees out and sit down between your legs and stay more upright.

    It's tough to stay upright and drop down when you don't give yourself any room.

    Edit: nevermind got it to work and your toe angle is fine.

    But you still sit back too much instead of down which is tipping you forward.
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    Ok, I see what you mean. I think I was trying to get between my legs before by spreading my feet really wide. But the squat feels waaaaaaay better having brought my feel in. Lu (and you in your vid Rory) seem to manage knees apart with feet pretty close together still tho, so I'll try it out.

    Also those 5x5's gave me srs ass DOMS and hip flexor soreness so I think that means I must be doing it at least close to right now.

    Rory and GM, any thoughts on that last snatch? Ignore the c&j before it. I know the angle is bad but gym idiots kept kicking my camera that day.
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    I'll give some notes on the snatch when I have a better connection. Won't load on my phone right now.

    And your legs are longer than mine, so my leverages are set-up better fora closer stance, albeit I am around holders width wide.

    So you may still need to be a bit wider for your proportions.
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    Snatch looks smoother. Your shins look a lot more vertical than before so you don't have to pull around your knees.

    You suffer from the same issue of bending your arms like I do, but your bar path looks pretty solid. Need more of a side angle to get a better idea though.
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    Originally Posted by izzygrant View Post
    Rory and GM, any thoughts on that last snatch? Ignore the c&j before it. I know the angle is bad but gym idiots kept kicking my camera that day.
    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    Snatch looks smoother. Your shins look a lot more vertical than before so you don't have to pull around your knees.




    You suffer from the same issue of bending your arms like I do, but your bar path looks pretty solid. Need more of a side angle to get a better idea though.

    Two things;

    A. Early arm bend like he said ^, roll your shoulders forward, lats tight, knuckles down and try your damndest to make your elbows point toward the bar.
    B. In both lifts you're pulling like it's the power variation and finishing up like the full lift, aka pull and drop. Your third extension is very drawn out so you don't actively pull yourself under.

    I think B is mostly caused by lack of weight.
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    Originally Posted by CuriousGM View Post
    Two things;

    A. Early arm bend like he said ^, roll your shoulders forward, lats tight, knuckles down and try your damndest to make your elbows point toward the bar.
    B. In both lifts you're pulling like it's the power variation and finishing up like the full lift, aka pull and drop. Your third extension is very drawn out so you don't actively pull yourself under.

    I think B is mostly caused by lack of weight.
    So pulling out makes you a good oly lifter?








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    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    I'll give some notes on the snatch when I have a better connection. Won't load on my phone right now.

    And your legs are longer than mine, so my leverages are set-up better fora closer stance, albeit I am around holders width wide.

    So you may still need to be a bit wider for your proportions.
    hmm, ok. shoulder width felt the best but if i need to go a bit wider to stay upright, well, them's the breaks. i'll try it out.

    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    Snatch looks smoother. Your shins look a lot more vertical than before so you don't have to pull around your knees.

    You suffer from the same issue of bending your arms like I do, but your bar path looks pretty solid. Need more of a side angle to get a better idea though.
    yay! one step closer at least.

    Originally Posted by CuriousGM View Post
    Two things;

    A. Early arm bend like he said ^, roll your shoulders forward, lats tight, knuckles down and try your damndest to make your elbows point toward the bar.
    B. In both lifts you're pulling like it's the power variation and finishing up like the full lift, aka pull and drop. Your third extension is very drawn out so you don't actively pull yourself under.

    I think B is mostly caused by lack of weight.
    shoulders forward hey? i was trying to keep them back. will change and try to get the elbow and wrist angles correct. and you're right, with this little weight i actually have to think about pulling myself under the bar and most of the time i forget. thank you.
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    Peaking Cycle Week 1 Day 1

    Monday Feb 25

    Deloaded all weekend. Sat around and ate about 2.5k cals/day.

    So I'm thinking I'm gonna compete. There's a combined PL/Oly meet on March 29 I'd kinda like to do; local, super low key. On the one hand I feel like it's silly because my lifts are so far below what they should be that I should just be on a proper 5x5 for like the next year and not messing around peaking the weakling strength I have. On the other hand, what's another month in exchange for getting to go out and see if competing is something I want to do. I could also just do the PL part and leave the Oly for when my technique has improved some.

    Arian wrote me a peaking program so I started it yesterday, anyway. At least the PL part - I was stupid and caught an index finger between some plates while training a friend at a gym I wasn't used to on Friday and it didn't feel better enough to snatch yet. Award for dumbest injury ever, right here. Entries are due on March 22 so I have some time to decide.

    Warmup
    5 mins elliptical
    wall squats

    Squats
    45 x8
    65 x8
    85 x6
    working sets
    4 x3 @ 90

    should have been 3 x4 but I can't read programs, oops. notes: keep lats and lower back tight to drive straight up out of hole

    Bench
    45 x8
    65 x7
    working sets
    3 x4 @ 75

    easy as fuk

    Accessory Circuit
    GHRs 5 x3 with some nice hamstring cramps
    lat PD 10 x3
    decline situps 20 x3

    P/Rehab
    bw squats with band around knees pushing apart
    front, side and rear delt raises
    band pullaparts, btn band pullaparts, OH band pullaparts
    shoulder dislocations with pvc pipe
    shoulder/back/chest suspended stretching with band attached to pull-up bars
    static lower body stretching
    rolling with ball and spiked roller of death - glutes and hip flexors bad even after weekend off

    lol fuk cardio

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    Originally Posted by izzygrant View Post
    Monday Feb 25

    Deloaded all weekend. Sat around and ate about 2.5k cals/day.

    So I'm thinking I'm gonna compete. There's a combined PL/Oly meet on March 29 I'd kinda like to do; local, super low key. On the one hand I feel like it's silly because my lifts are so far below what they should be that I should just be on a proper 5x5 for like the next year and not messing around peaking the weakling strength I have. On the other hand, what's another month in exchange for getting to go out and see if competing is something I want to do. I could also just do the PL part and leave the Oly for when my technique has improved some.

    Arian wrote me a peaking program so I started it yesterday, anyway. At least the PL part - I was stupid and caught an index finger between some plates while training a friend at a gym I wasn't used to on Friday and it didn't feel better enough to snatch yet. Award for dumbest injury ever, right here. Entries are due on March 22 so I have some time to decide.

    Warmup
    5 mins elliptical
    wall squats

    Squats
    45 x8
    65 x8
    85 x6
    working sets
    4 x3 @ 90

    should have been 3 x4 but I can't read programs, oops. notes: keep lats and lower back tight to drive straight up out of hole


    Bench
    45 x8
    65 x7
    working sets
    3 x4 @ 75

    easy as fuk

    Accessory Circuit
    GHRs 5 x3 with some nice hamstring cramps
    lat PD 10 x3
    decline situps 20 x3

    P/Rehab
    bw squats with band around knees pushing apart
    front, side and rear delt raises
    band pullaparts, btn band pullaparts, OH band pullaparts
    shoulder dislocations with pvc pipe
    shoulder/back/chest suspended stretching with band attached to pull-up bars
    static lower body stretching
    rolling with ball and spiked roller of death - glutes and hip flexors bad even after weekend off

    lol fuk cardio

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    Squats are looking a lot better.

    I set all my PRs to Taylor Swift. Srs.
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    squats are getting better every session.

    Where is this meet you speak of? I might be out of town but it's tempting to maybe enter if I am around.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Jam
    well fawk you too

    Originally Posted by wakechica View Post
    Enter that comp.


    Or else
    my twin the deadlift queen has spoken!

    Originally Posted by FrmrHoss View Post
    Squats are looking a lot better.

    I set all my PRs to Taylor Swift. Srs.
    thanks.

    that's disgusting. it was arian's fault. he sent me the goat video right before i was leaving to lift. all the blue stahli in the world couldn't fix it.

    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    squats are getting better every session.

    Where is this meet you speak of? I might be out of town but it's tempting to maybe enter if I am around.
    woohoo!!

    it's going to be out at UBC. i posted the info in your log.
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