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    Should i bulk or cut?I need advice!

    Im 18 years old and i cant decide should i bulk or cut,im 6'8 (203cm) tall and 93kg heavy its around 200lbs so should i bulk or cut?I actually want to be leaner ( to see my abs and to be belly free)
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    I would cut and get abs then bulk, simply because i care more about leaness then mass, but im not u

    u can really go either way. you look like your holding quite a bit of water in that pic, i think a 1-2 month calorie defecit would get you where u want to be in terms of leaness
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    so i should continue what i was doing,im currently cutting like 400 calories .My calorie intake is around 2200-2300 since my calorie maintance is 2700calories. Im doing it okay?
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    Bulk.


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    If you live in the northern hemisphere... Bulk. Who cares about abs when you are wearing a coat?
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    IMO there is no question you should try to gain muscle before attempting to lose weight. You are 6'8 and only 16 years old. When you are 18 years old and headed to college do you want to have visible abdominals at 180lbs and look like a broom?

    You have so much potential with your size to get jacked. You won't like my idea likely, but I would "bulk" gaining 1-2lb/month for the next 2 years. You will look much more impressive than a toothpick with abs.

    Use a solid routine (squat, deadlift, bench, rows, pullups, and presses) , rest, and eat.
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    Originally Posted by tudge View Post
    Bulk.


    That guy is an idiot^
    lmao, all i said is what I WOULD DO

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    i guess i will cut untill new year then if i dont like the results i will start bulking.
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    Originally Posted by Wierdo23 View Post
    i guess i will cut untill new year then if i dont like the results i will start bulking.
    Bro, you barely have any mass as it is. Ill save you some time, you won't like the results come New Year start the bulk.
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    Originally Posted by kgates0983 View Post
    Bro, you barely have any mass as it is. Ill save you some time, you won't like the results come New Year start the bulk.
    Spot on answer.
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    Originally Posted by tudge View Post
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    Okay guys...so how much calories then i should eat?

    SO i've calculated my maintance calories and it says that i should eat this much? is it okay ? should i use a different calculator if so please link it

    basal metabolic rate 2288kcal
    total energy expenditure 3504kcal

    Im 18 years old around 93kg heavy and 203cm tall so is it okay or a little bit too much? I sleep 9 hours and i workout for one hour +20 mins walking to gym (5 days a week),can anyone please help me with my calculations
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    Don't cut..you need to bulk brother.

    Use the calc in the "Nutrition" section to find your maintenance and go ~500 surplus.
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    Originally Posted by dest0 View Post
    Don't cut..you need to bulk brother.

    Use the calc in the "Nutrition" section to find your maintenance and go ~500 surplus.
    thanks mate i've already did that but the calorie number seems to high for me.That's why i've asked in my previous post ;D
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    Originally Posted by SA1705 View Post
    IMO there is no question you should try to gain muscle before attempting to lose weight. You are 6'8 and only 16 years old. When you are 18 years old and headed to college do you want to have visible abdominals at 180lbs and look like a broom?

    You have so much potential with your size to get jacked. You won't like my idea likely, but I would "bulk" gaining 1-2lb/month for the next 2 years. You will look much more impressive than a toothpick with abs.

    Use a solid routine (squat, deadlift, bench, rows, pullups, and presses) , rest, and eat.
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    Since your so tall eat everything in sight. You will get annoyed as you won't put on muscle that quickly. Then eventually you will get pissed. But then one day you will realise, you are simply not eating enough. Then you will eat more, more than ever. Your family will laugh at you cause they will think wtf how can he eat so much. Then you will slowly get bigger and bigger, then it becomes easier and easier and one day you will think yeah I want some abs then cut for 3-4 months and boom you have mass and abs at 6 foot 7. YEA
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    Bulk. I feel small at 225 6'2".
    If you really want to cut you can cut 12 weeks prior to summer. Nobody sees your abs and veins in a winter coat
    At first I struggled to eat "enough". Now I can eat 750g of rice and 700g of chicken a day without a problem.
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    Originally Posted by SA1705 View Post
    IMO there is no question you should try to gain muscle before attempting to lose weight. You are 6'8 and only 16 years old. When you are 18 years old and headed to college do you want to have visible abdominals at 180lbs and look like a broom?

    You have so much potential with your size to get jacked. You won't like my idea likely, but I would "bulk" gaining 1-2lb/month for the next 2 years. You will look much more impressive than a toothpick with abs.

    Use a solid routine (squat, deadlift, bench, rows, pullups, and presses) , rest, and eat.
    This is the only advice you need to listen to.
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    Originally Posted by SA1705 View Post
    IMO there is no question you should try to gain muscle before attempting to lose weight. You are 6'8 and only 16 years old. When you are 18 years old and headed to college do you want to have visible abdominals at 180lbs and look like a broom?

    You have so much potential with your size to get jacked. You won't like my idea likely, but I would "bulk" gaining 1-2lb/month for the next 2 years. You will look much more impressive than a toothpick with abs.

    Use a solid routine (squat, deadlift, bench, rows, pullups, and presses) , rest, and eat.
    I think that i will actually do this even though im scared of getting fat becouse i was actually more then120kg heavy about almost 2 years ago.

    Anyway,if i may ask WHAT IS THE BEST BULKING 5 DAY WORKOUT ROUTINE to start with?
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    i've found this routine,is it okay for my bulk plan?

    Intermediate (6-8 reps except where stated - a bit more volume per bodypart this time.)

    Monday quads/hamstrings

    Squats (4 sets)
    Leg press (3 sets)
    Leg extensions (3 sets)
    Leg curls (3 sets)
    Stiff leg deadlift (3 sets)

    Tuesday chest/abs

    Bench press (4 sets)
    Incline dumbell press (3 sets)
    Chest dips (3 sets)
    Hanging hip raise (3 sets to failure)
    Crunches (3 sets to failure)

    Wednesday back/forearms

    Deadlift (4 sets)
    Barbell row (4 sets)
    Chin ups (3 sets)
    Seated row (3 sets)
    Behind back wrist curl (3 sets)
    Reverse wrist curl (3sets)

    Thursday shoulders/calves (shrugs could also be done on back day)

    Military press (4 sets)
    Side laterals (3 sets)
    Rear laterals (3 sets)
    Shrugs (3 sets)
    Standing calf raises (3 sets - 10-15 reps)
    Seated calf raises (3 sets)

    Friday triceps/biceps/abs

    Close grip bench press (3 sets)
    Skullcrushers (3 sets)
    Barbell curls (3 sets)
    Incline dumbell culs (3 sets)
    Crunch (3 sets to failure)
    Twisting crunches (3 sets to failure)
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    Originally Posted by Wierdo23 View Post
    i've found this routine,is it okay for my bulk plan?

    Intermediate (6-8 reps except where stated - a bit more volume per bodypart this time.)

    Monday quads/hamstrings

    Squats (4 sets)
    Leg press (3 sets)
    Leg extensions (3 sets)
    Leg curls (3 sets)
    Stiff leg deadlift (3 sets)

    Tuesday chest/abs

    Bench press (4 sets)
    Incline dumbell press (3 sets)
    Chest dips (3 sets)
    Hanging hip raise (3 sets to failure)
    Crunches (3 sets to failure)

    Wednesday back/forearms

    Deadlift (4 sets)
    Barbell row (4 sets)
    Chin ups (3 sets)
    Seated row (3 sets)
    Behind back wrist curl (3 sets)
    Reverse wrist curl (3sets)

    Thursday shoulders/calves (shrugs could also be done on back day)

    Military press (4 sets)
    Side laterals (3 sets)
    Rear laterals (3 sets)
    Shrugs (3 sets)
    Standing calf raises (3 sets - 10-15 reps)
    Seated calf raises (3 sets)

    Friday triceps/biceps/abs

    Close grip bench press (3 sets)
    Skullcrushers (3 sets)
    Barbell curls (3 sets)
    Incline dumbell culs (3 sets)
    Crunch (3 sets to failure)
    Twisting crunches (3 sets to failure)
    what are the rep ranges for your compound movements? you only gave the amount of sets. And to be honest, i really don't believe in following a piece of paper for your workout, because training stimului are different for everybody. Variate the amount of sets to an amount that works well for you so that you wouldn't be overtraining, nor undertraining. Judging on how your physique looks now, I think you should build yourself a good foundation of strength to start out. Anecdotally speaking, everybody who has started their lifting routines with Starting Strength tends to progress extremely fast not just in gym performance, but also with their physiques and overall hypertrophy.
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    Originally Posted by TonyJH View Post
    what are the rep ranges for your compound movements? you only gave the amount of sets. And to be honest, i really don't believe in following a piece of paper for your workout, because training stimului are different for everybody. Variate the amount of sets to an amount that works well for you so that you wouldn't be overtraining, nor undertraining. Judging on how your physique looks now, I think you should build yourself a good foundation of strength to start out. Anecdotally speaking, everybody who has started their lifting routines with Starting Strength tends to progress extremely fast not just in gym performance, but also with their physiques and overall hypertrophy.
    i guess that rep ranges should be between 8-12 if im correct?What do you think.Or if you could post good workout plan while bulking.Actually i need an good advice.
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    Can anyone tell me what type of body do i have(ectomorph,mesomorph...)? Thanks in advance people! ^_^
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    holy moly, 6'8.

    fyi, dont worry about what body type you have.
    eat more and lift heavy, also sleep good.
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    Originally Posted by speedjason View Post
    holy moly, 6'8.

    fyi, dont worry about what body type you have.
    eat more and lift heavy, also sleep good.
    THanks mate,i've already started with my bulk 3500kcal 40% carbs 40% protein 20% fat. BUt i wanted to know what type of body do i have
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    THanks mate,i've already started with my bulk 3500kcal 40% carbs 40% protein 20% fat. BUt i wanted to know what type of body do i have
    you have the body type of your own. no reason to think about it too deeply.
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