ITT I will explain in detail what overtraining REALLY is, no bull****

[LegosInMyEgos]

(skip to 2:23 if you don't want to hear me rant about the goal of my videos)



many more like these to come.... maybe.

[SethBJJ]

bump

will rep any miscers that sub to op's channel. dude makes good videos

[ErikTheElectric]

Repped OP.

Literally everytime I see a thread pop up with a 15 yr old on some dumb 4-5 day split, doing 15 minute cardio sessions before each working out. Saying that they're "over training", it brings
some serious lolz.

[TylerP4]

No such thing as overtraining, only such thing as under-recovering

[V3lcity]

No such thing as overtraining, only such thing as under-recovering

This.

My split is 5-6 days lifting, 3-4 hours spent at the gym with cardio everyday and I also have boxing/muay thai kickboxing 4-5 times a week for an hour each

And I'm perfectly fine.

[LegosInMyEgos]

No such thing as overtraining, only such thing as under-recovering

This.

My split is 5-6 days lifting, 3-4 hours spent at the gym with cardio everyday and I also have boxing/muay thai kickboxing 4-5 times a week for an hour each

And I'm perfectly fine.

You're both wrong, overtraining objectively exists, and its undebatable when you understand what overtraining actually means.

You can continue to think whatever suits you though.

[V3lcity]

You're both wrong, overtraining objectively exists, and its undebatable when you understand what overtraining actually means.

You can continue to think whatever suits you though.

I guess I just have excellent recovery lol

[LegosInMyEgos]

I guess I just have excellent recovery lol

There are several possible reasons why you're "fine".

The most likely reason being that your intensity in the gym isn't high enough to cause overtraining. I can't do more then speculate unless I have more information though.

[V3lcity]

There are several possible reasons why you're "fine".

The most likely reason being that your intensity in the gym isn't high enough to cause overtraining. I can't do more then speculate unless I have more information though.

Nah I train intense as ****-- supersets, negatives, etc.

Example of chest/biceps day:
-3 sets Flat DB press, 80's, 90's, 100's - 12, 10, 8 reps (15-30 sec rest)
-3 sets Incline DB press, 70's, 80's, 90's - 12, 10, 8 reps (15-30 sec rest)
-4 sets chest flies w/ bands- 15, 12, 10, 8,
-4 sets of chest dips all the way up and down (start out with 50 dips, usually lowers to about 20) supersetted 20 reversegrip pull-ups all the way up and down
-3 sets barbell curls supersetted with diamond pushups til failure (easily get 50-70 on first set)
-2 sets incline db curls
-2 sets incline hammer db curls
-2 sets curls with bands

Barely rest between sets and when I do its like 30 seconds between different exercises or like a minute for supersetted exercises

Usually dead by then, if not i burnout on random ****, and then hit treadmill for 15 min (8 mph)

and in addition to that I have my boxing/muaythai classes like two hours after my gym sesh

srs

[D6A6N6I6E6L6]

The only thing that gets overtrained is your nervous system, and when that happens, the muscles are no longer able to contract. You can't really overtrain a muscle, I do like 30 ****in sets for my back workouts and back is my best bodypart. You just have to find a balance where you're giving the muscle enough stimulation without taxing your nervous system TOO much.

[LegosInMyEgos]

Nah I train intense as ****-- supersets, negatives, etc.

Example of chest/biceps day:
-3 sets Flat DB press, 80's, 90's, 100's - 12, 10, 8 reps (15-30 sec rest)
-3 sets Incline DB press, 70's, 80's, 90's - 12, 10, 8 reps (15-30 sec rest)
-4 sets chest flies w/ bands- 15, 12, 10, 8,
-4 sets of chest dips all the way up and down (start out with 50 dips, usually lowers to about 20) supersetted 20 reversegrip pull-ups all the way up and down
-3 sets barbell curls supersetted with diamond pushups til failure (easily get 50-70 on first set)
-2 sets incline db curls
-2 sets incline hammer db curls
-2 sets curls with bands

Barely rest between sets and when I do its like 30 seconds between different exercises or like a minute for supersetted exercises

Usually dead by then, if not i burnout on random ****, and then hit treadmill for 15 min (8 mph)

srs

Upper body works are nowhere near as taxing as lower workouts.

What do you on back/leg day?

Also, I have no idea how intense that is for you, because I dont know how much you can DB press.

[LegosInMyEgos]

The only thing that gets overtrained is your nervous system, and when that happens, the muscles are no longer able to contract. You can't really overtrain a muscle, I do like 30 ****in sets for my back workouts and back is my best bodypart. You just have to find a balance where you're giving the muscle enough stimulation without taxing your nervous system TOO much.

Well, you can overtrain a muscle in a sense...... its called an overuse injury.

But overtraining is purely CNS based term, muscular atrophy will take an extremely long time to take place if it occurs at all.

[KCBadBoy]

Every body part has its own day crew checking in

[LegosInMyEgos]

Its important to note that its theoretically possible to have a capacity to do work that is actually so high that it is practically impossible to overtrain. But that doesn't mean that overtraining doesn't exist. In virtually all cases a work capacity like that is going to be the result of drugs, and doesn't take away from the fact that knowledge of overtraining is very important if a natural strength athlete want to excel at a high level.

[V3lcity]

Upper body works are nowhere near as taxing as lower workouts.

What do you on back/leg day?

Also, I have no idea how intense that is for you, because I dont know how much you can DB press.

I usually do back w/ triceps and legs has it's own day always -- my legs are probably my "biggest" muscles when comparing proportionality

back/triceps:
-warm up with 3-4 sets of wide-grip pull ups til failure (usually like 20, 15, 12, 12)
-3 sets of the row machine where you're on an incline with your chest (8, 10, 12 -- 3 45 plates, 2 45's and a 25, 2 45's)
-4 sets lat pull down (15, 12, 10, 8)
-2 sets of lat pulldowns with a straight bar standing up slightly bent forward
-3 sets bent over rows with barbell
-3 sets seated rows
-3 sets skullcrushers (12, 10, 8 -- 90, 100, 110 barbell)
-3 sets tricep pulldowns
-3 sets seated dips
-3 set tricep extensions

Leg day
-3 sets leg press machine where u add plates (12, 10, 8 -- 7 plates, 8 plates, 10 plates each side)
-5 sets calf press on smith leg press machine
-3 sets quad extensions
-3 sets calf raises
-4 sets hamstring machine

Yes I don't squat yet have huge legs
srs

Then I go into the room with the heavy bags and just do bunch of bodyweight **** for my legs that we do in muaythai

[LegosInMyEgos]

I usually do back w/ triceps and legs has it's own day always -- my legs are probably my "biggest" muscles when comparing proportionality

back/triceps:
-warm up with 3-4 sets of wide-grip pull ups til failure (usually like 20, 15, 12, 12)
-3 sets of the row machine where you're on an incline with your chest (8, 10, 12 -- 3 45 plates, 2 45's and a 25, 2 45's)
-4 sets lat pull down (15, 12, 10, 8)
-2 sets of lat pulldowns with a straight bar standing up slightly bent forward
-3 sets bent over rows with barbell
-3 sets seated rows
-3 sets skullcrushers (12, 10, 8 -- 90, 100, 110 barbell)
-3 sets tricep pulldowns
-3 sets seated dips
-3 set tricep extensions

Leg day
-3 sets leg press machine where u add plates (12, 10, 8 -- 7 plates, 8 plates, 10 plates each side)
-5 sets calf press on smith leg press machine
-3 sets quad extensions
-3 sets calf raises
-4 sets hamstring machine

Yes I don't squat yet have huge legs
srs

Then I go into the room with the heavy bags and just do bunch of bodyweight **** for my legs that we do in muaythai

Well theres your answer. No heavy compounds in your program, and very few compounds at all.

If you dropped the rep range and added squats or deads, you would hit a wall pretty quick.

Only training at the high end of the rep range is not good for hypertrophy if thats what your after. You're neglecting the largest motor neurons that innervate muscle fibers activated only during maximal effort or repetition effort sets.

[apples09]

ITT OP doesnt use compounds. lol @ you. some people use them and can overtrain


continue with your hamstring curls

[RainingBlood]

I came in here expecting to lose my **** lol. Assumed OP would be a person that joined yesterday and is handing out advice.
Leaving satisfied.

[josh120]

ITT OP doesnt use compounds. lol @ you. some people use them and can overtrain


continue with your hamstring curls

LIME does compounds, it was the other guy who doesn't.

[FeelTheFear]

you got an afro?

[timmzzy1]

subbed and repped. great vids

[Kahldris]

ITT OP doesnt use compounds. lol @ you. some people use them and can overtrain


continue with your hamstring curls

OP's Lifts:

PR's
Bench Press 385
Squat 500
Deadlift 555













u wot m8??

[LegosInMyEgos]

you got an afro?

yes i do

subbed and repped. great vids

thanks bro

[frezKo]

subbed

great information

[OneMA2011]

Nah I train intense as ****-- supersets, negatives, etc.

Example of chest/biceps day:
-3 sets Flat DB press, 80's, 90's, 100's - 12, 10, 8 reps (15-30 sec rest)
-3 sets Incline DB press, 70's, 80's, 90's - 12, 10, 8 reps (15-30 sec rest)
-4 sets chest flies w/ bands- 15, 12, 10, 8,
-4 sets of chest dips all the way up and down (start out with 50 dips, usually lowers to about 20) supersetted 20 reversegrip pull-ups all the way up and down
-3 sets barbell curls supersetted with diamond pushups til failure (easily get 50-70 on first set)
-2 sets incline db curls
-2 sets incline hammer db curls
-2 sets curls with bands

Barely rest between sets and when I do its like 30 seconds between different exercises or like a minute for supersetted exercises

Usually dead by then, if not i burnout on random ****, and then hit treadmill for 15 min (8 mph)

and in addition to that I have my boxing/muaythai classes like two hours after my gym sesh

srs

That is an intense workout...son wtf?

srs that looks like the total of my warmup sets...



Good video though OP...people just scream overtraining at everything

[lajoo]

Didn't watch vids,cliffs?

Who cares if you can overtrain or not? I never get why people bitch about it so much when they started lifting for like a week. I personally overreached a couple times and each time i came out stronger

[Xuaxace]

No such thing as overtraining, only such thing as under-recovering

did you even bother watching the ****ing video?...



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good video legos, will post em up when this threads pop up

[Mattash2g]

work on your calves OP, they are really behind

[LegosInMyEgos]

subbed

great information

thanks bro.

Didn't watch vids,cliffs?

Who cares if you can overtrain or not? I never get why people bitch about it so much when they started lifting for like a week. I personally overreached a couple times and each time i came out stronger

do you know what overeaching means?

did you even bother watching the ****ing video?...



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good video legos, will post em up when this threads pop up

work on your calves OP, they are really behind

It probably has at least a little bit to do with the fact that I don't train them.

[DerekEt]

This is a good video. People tell me I am overtraining because I do Full body 3-4x a week; it's hilarious. They haven't a clue what overtraining is. Then you have people like this joker who thinks his Chest/Bicep routine is super intense and that it's necessary to train 4 hours a day 6 days a week LOL. I bet he is benching 185.

Lego, I am stuck at 290x8 bench/265x9 incline and trying to get it up, if I don't break a PR today I may message you lmao.