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    Originally Posted by samatash View Post
    This dude Pete Rubish looks like crap. Comes off like a total bro, too.

    I would rather listen to Eric Lilliebridge or George Leeman talk about this stuff... Hell, even Hickson lol.
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    Originally Posted by TheSuccessful1 View Post
    My point is simply...

    What's marketable?

    deep squats, raw lifting, and shredded physiques (truth)
    It's all good, you squat deep and so does Big Sexy J, only worry about yourself and the half Asian wunderkind who just challenged you. That's the type of thing that will bring raw lifting to the rule book back into the limelight. Let's do this.

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    Originally Posted by dtaps24 View Post
    It's all good, you squat deep and so does Big Sexy J, only worry about yourself and the half Asian wunderkind who just challenged you. That's the type of thing that will bring raw lifting to the rule book back into the limelight. Let's do this.
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    Originally Posted by TheSuccessful1 View Post
    i'd be down if someone puts up the plane ticket and hotel
    Now we're talkin. Doesn't Dan Green do c4c normally? Maybe team STeed would put you up, those guys are doing great things as far as promoting good competition between top young lifters. I think we've got some time.

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    So what I get out of this is that the "newer generation" of lifters as Pete puts it are lifting for notoriety, where most people that I know and respect in the sport lift for themselves and for the total. So creating an environment where PLing goes mainstream is a way to feed the ego? I don't really get it.

    Do what you want, with or without gear, do it in a way that makes you happy, and get the fukk over it.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Its funny because Pete competed next to raw lifters who were squatting high.
    Lol... Like who? I'm guessing you're talking about Eric Lilliebridge from reading some of your other posts.. His 2nd attempt 859.7lbs, which he got at the ST, was not high.. I'm never the one to argue about anything, especially depth on a squat via video on a forum, but I've seen numerous of your posts arguing about his depth and other things.. his 859.7 was not high.

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    Originally Posted by getout87 View Post
    So what I get out of this is that the "newer generation" of lifters as Pete puts it are lifting for notoriety, where most people that I know and respect in the sport lift for themselves and for the total. So creating an environment where PLing goes mainstream is a way to feed the ego? I don't really get it.

    Do what you want, with or without gear, do it in a way that makes you happy, and get the fukk over it.
    That's fine if you want the sport to stay underground and have no one know about it except for a niche group, but I'm trying to bring it mainstream.
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    Originally Posted by B0R0 View Post
    Lol... Like who? I'm guessing you're talking about Eric Lilliebridge from reading some of your other posts.. His 2nd attempt 859.7lbs, which he got at the ST, was not high.. I'm never the one to argue about anything, especially depth on a squat via video on a forum, but I've seen numerous of your posts arguing about his depth and other things.. his 859.7 was not high.
    Plenty of people on here, including myself, agree that Eric and Stan squat high quite often in competition. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. It is hard to prove since Eric always takes his videos from weird angles to make it more difficult. Stan and Dan did a side video but that was in the gym so I guess Stan could say he squats lower in competition.
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    I would like to see strong competition and big meets on TV again myself. I don't care about self promoting vids or expressing opinions but expect some lash back especially when they are focused on the wrong things. Sean is a big example of that.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Plenty of people on here, including myself, agree that Eric and Stan squat high quite often in competition. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. It is hard to prove since Eric always takes his videos from weird angles to make it more difficult. Stan and Dan did a side video but that was in the gym so I guess Stan could say he squats lower in competition.
    Yeah, just my opinion. I wasn't lucky enough to be at the meet to see for myself... but in regards to Pete's video, I also would love to see powerlifting in the mainstream.. I'm in Canada and it's not really popular. I dont know of any high schools that offer powerlifting programs even

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    Originally Posted by B0R0 View Post
    Yeah, just my opinion. I wasn't lucky enough to be at the meet to see for myself... but in regards to Pete's video, I also would love to see powerlifting in the mainstream.. I'm in Canada and it's not really popular. I dont know of any high schools that offer powerlifting programs even
    I wasn't there either so I didn't see it in person. That's why I've asked Eric if he could film some of his squats from the side but he won't. And I'm pretty sure everyone would want to see powerlifting be mainstream, even if they are only in the sport for fun and to hit PRs. But I don't think everyone wants to give up gear and have to look like a bodybuilder to be mainstream. Plenty of sports have guys who are in shape and big boys. Like take MMA, there are the lightweights who are ripped and conditioned and can go all day but plenty of people love seeing the big boys beat da sh!t out of each other even if they are as fat as Roy Nelson. So I don't see why we can't be mainstream with 123 lbs ripped dudes pulling 600 and 300 lbs monsters pulling 1000.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    Plenty of people on here, including myself, agree that Eric and Stan squat high quite often in competition. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. It is hard to prove since Eric always takes his videos from weird angles to make it more difficult. Stan and Dan did a side video but that was in the gym so I guess Stan could say he squats lower in competition.
    Bill who is a registered judge and squats to depth and was at the scorer's table said Eric probably got there with 860 and Stan's unwrapped record was to depth. I think it is generally accepted that Stan gets there in competition. Eric I think the consensus is that his 860 was the exception not the rule.

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    Originally Posted by TheSuccessful1 View Post
    That's fine if you want the sport to stay underground and have no one know about it except for a niche group, but I'm trying to bring it mainstream.
    It's not that I don't want it to be popular, but frankly the underground, hardcore feel is part of what drew me to PL in the first place. I didn't get into the sport wanting to be the next big thing or try and make money off of it, I just wanted to get strong and test myself.
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    Originally Posted by dtaps24 View Post
    Bill who is a registered judge and squats to depth and was at the scorer's table said Eric probably got there with 860 and Stan's unwrapped record was to depth. I think it is generally accepted that Stan gets there in competition. Eric I think the consensus is that his 860 was the exception not the rule.
    Since I haven't seen either of their squats in person and I'm not good enough to accurately judge depth from the front, I will take Bill's word as the closest thing to truth that we got.
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    Originally Posted by TheSuccessful1 View Post
    That's fine if you want the sport to stay underground and have no one know about it except for a niche group, but I'm trying to bring it mainstream.
    Then you are pretty much going to have to find a way have no more than 30 seconds between lifters or have recorded and edited meet videos that air days or weeks after the event takes place. Powerlifting livestreams are boring as hell, until you get somebody doing something spectacular on the platform a lot of powerlifting is really not that interesting. The average person doesn't really care if a squat was high or not (most likely they would enjoy it because it allows for heated drunken debates) they care about action and entertainment, so if you want it live run three platforms almost simultaneously, tell the audience about the lifters so that people will care about them and can actually choose somebody to cheer for and don't make it go on for 10 hours... or 3 days. This isn't cricket.
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    Originally Posted by ShortDave View Post
    Then you are pretty much going to have to find a way have no more than 30 seconds between lifters or have recorded and edited meet videos that air days or weeks after the event takes place. ...
    Exactly what happen when ABC sports covered power lifting and what happens now with strong man comp. The average lifter would not be aired and massive editing would be done with a lot of commenting.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Exactly what happen when ABC sports covered power lifting and what happens now with strong man comp. The average lifter would not be aired and massive editing would be done with a lot of commenting.
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    i cant speak for every squat erics ever done, but the times ive seen him squat are to depth.

    deep squats are best, thats a given. but I think the important thing is for them to just be legitimate, not so blatantly questionable like they are sometimes.

    being lean is definitely a plus for promoting powerliftering tho. There is room for everyone, but powerlifters who look like bodybuilders are clearly more marketable. powerlifting is kind of long stretches or boring with a few seconds of awesomeness, so it pays to be entertained by the lifters when they arent even lifting, if that makes any sense.

    how many typical people share the mind set of "yeah hes strong, but hes fat so who cares."

    for powerlifting to ever be "main stream" or for powerlifters to ever get paid decently, they have to be marketable in pictures not just numbers, they will need to be able to sell them selves to a audience and be able to move products based off their looks, otherwise who is going to be able to make money off them and in turn make them or the sport become more popular?


    the only reason im discussing this is because its the topic in this thread, its pretty obvious that powerlifting isnt going to go main stream anytime soon because the general public is never going to understand what the weights we lift mean, they will only understand how we look, and then get bored to death by the meets etc
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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    i cant speak for every squat erics ever done, but the times ive seen him squat are to depth.

    deep squats are best, thats a given. but I think the important thing is for them to just be legitimate, not so blatantly questionable like they are sometimes.

    being lean is definitely a plus for promoting powerliftering tho. There is room for everyone, but powerlifters who look like bodybuilders are clearly more marketable. powerlifting is kind of long stretches or boring with a few seconds of awesomeness, so it pays to be entertained by the lifters when they arent even lifting, if that makes any sense.

    how many typical people share the mind set of "yeah hes strong, but hes fat so who cares."

    for powerlifting to ever be "main stream" or for powerlifters to ever get paid decently, they have to be marketable in pictures not just numbers, they will need to be able to sell them selves to a audience and be able to move products based off their looks, otherwise who is going to be able to make money off them and in turn make them or the sport become more popular?


    the only reason im discussing this is because its the topic in this thread, its pretty obvious that powerlifting isnt going to go main stream anytime soon because the general public is never going to understand what the weights we lift mean, they will only understand how we look, and then get bored to death by the meets etc
    True dat.

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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    they will only understand how we look, and then get bored to death by the meets etc
    They also like to ask you "for how many reps?" after they ask you what you lift.
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    Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 View Post
    pepper your angus for negs.
    it has it's place and a lot of the guys are incredibly skilled. learning gear takes a tremendous amount of skill, patience, pain tolerance, money, time, etc.
    Just because some phaggots squat high doesn't mean you hate on everyone who lifts in gear. Some feds still operate with integrity.
    lol yea, I wasn't really referring to depth though, and I don't hate everyone who lifts in gear. More of a, why would we add in this outside factor which aids someone in lifting the weight.

    And a poor reason is that a non-lifter, or even 99% of the guys lifting in commercial gyms, would have no idea that this thing a guy is wearing over his body will help add hundreds of pounds to his lifts. Take two 200lb dudes. One squatting raw and the other in gear. The guy in gear will always look more impressive to them and they'll think he's a lot stronger, when it could be the complete opposite.
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    My prediction on this thread:

    It turns into a gear vs raw debate.

    Bill gets mad.

    Bill closes the thread.
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    Originally Posted by Big Sexy J View Post
    My prediction on this thread:

    It turned into a gear vs raw debate.

    Bill gets mad.

    Bill closes the thread.
    winner.

    not that I expected much else.

    weightlifting is raw with good physiques (until you get to SHW) and its in the ****ing olympics...its about as marketable as underwater basket weaving.
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