Female professor and sloot raging at me (women logic) (pic)

[canuck247]

how the fuq does the prof know who participated and who didn't out of a class of 150 people?????

[xRedStaRx]

I can't believe all these replies.

Pretty obvious OP is making it up, 100% srs.

College students and professors aren't shallow. I've taken gender and social courses and I said far worse things on feminism in a class full of women with only 1 other guy.

[canuck247]

why the fuk did you go to her office *******?!?!!? you think she would remember you out of 150 people??

and answer how participation marks work with 150 people

[SkinnyAbs91]

Pretty strict for a Uni in California, US.... WTH ?

[TheCore84]

Has op updated? Op sue if you get in trouble. They're discriminating against you because you're a man giving an opinion to an opinion based question.

[Dr_Dolan]

Such is life brah, best of luck to ya

[Reflexez]

Wouldn't even be worried, just go with (on average):

- Males have more test, ergo women develop less muscle and are smaller in stature.
- Many animal societies exhibit behavior of targeting those which are physically weaker both in prey and their own societies.
- You felt that it was a valid point which could be debated and should you be incorrect then you would have appreciated the information and learned from your mistake, however instead of any factual evidence being presented you were removed from the class and have been worried about getting in trouble.
- You didn't intend to cause offense and if needed you can cite scientific evidence for why you had your opinion, you're concerned about the inability to speak freely within class as instead of being educated you're being punished.

Would legit lay it out like that, from how you described it you didn't sound like you were being a jerk or insulting (if you were then probably deserve to be where you are now) and try not to get on Profs bad side forever but say that you should be corrected not punished for trying to have a discussion.

[I8YourMama]

OP what kind of school do you go to where you have professors like this? Herp Derp University? This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a well-known and confirmed fact that biologically, men are created physically superior to women. C'mon now

[lethalandcruel]

tell your professor,if she's nice,you'll put it in her butt

[PzMyers]

the girl in his class is rather correct in stating that it's an insanely ignorant comment.

whut ? How is Op's answer insanely ignorant ???

[nlouisy]

Good job OP.

[jake1224]

If they want to make a fuss out of it, say you are just stating what your current knowledge tells you. You are utterly disappointed that you are paying for an education, and that instead of the professor educating you on the matter, you are being punished. If that doesn't get them, then say you will be forced to file a grievance against them for harassment and abuse in an educational facility.

It's utterly inappropriate for them to reprimand you for being ignorant, when it's THEIR ****ing job to educate you on the matter.

Best reply in thread.

[Kadisha]

Whether your'e right or not OP is not the question here. It's class setting where you should be allowed to discuss different ideas. It's called a University for a reason. You were expressing your opinion, plain and simple. If anything happens to your scholarship then you go to a really ****ed up school.

[Darkhare]

Defence of truth OP. Bring printed transcripts of the last 20 years of Olympic weightlifting in every division. Say this is what you were referring to, then apologise as you now realise it could be taken as offensive.

This way you make your points a) that men are stronger
b) that you are humble & weren't trying to be a cheeky kunt
c) you apologised and "have learnt your error"

tempted to neg, no he shouldn't apologize, he had the right answer.... men will pick on women because they are weaker, there's no reprecussions, as advanced as we've become, pain is still our ultimate consequence, and you know if you bully a man there's a chance he might blast u in the fing face

[COFFEEMUG]

First, your answer is wrong. Women are typically harassed and abused more frequently and to a greater extent than men as a result of patriarchal social norms that encourage men to dominate women. Women are also frequently a minority or an extreme minority in certain work environments. This has nothing to do with them being physically weaker than men, especially considering that most work environments place 0 emphasis on physical strength. The jelly doughnut quaffing fatties in suits are probably about as weak as your typical runway model. Your comment might as well have been "because they have tits, duh".

Second, it would probably help your world view, interactions with women in general, and grade in this class to stop describing women as "Sloots"

how the fk are you green? negged *******

[dchuck90]

Challenge your slam to a fight to prove your point.

[Wakaaa]

Doesn't sound like you said anything wrong... If she reprimands you, go to the dean and tell them that there is freedom of speech and that you said nothing offensive, and only true and that she is discriminating against you due to your sex.

Brb going to my teacher and calling her a slut, then ask her if she wants sum fuk, and say I'm practicing my freedom of speech.

[eac1005]

Cliffs:

- I'm in my Human Resources class.
- professor (female) asks "Can anyone venture a guess why women get more harrassed and abused than men in the work force"
- Lecture participation is worth 15% and noone answered the question.
- Professor repeats the question and a class of 150 people noone is answering.
- I put my hand up, and go "because on average they are physically weaker than men?....."
- Class ohhhhhs and ahhhhs and couple of brahs crack out laughing and the professor is bertstaring me.
- Prof says that the comment is out of line, i should excusd from class and to see her in her office afterwards
- Go to the office afterwards, she tells me it was way out of line, and she needs to contact the department to see what they should do with me
- sloot i banged couple of times but im cool with and shes in the same class gets mad at me for the comment
- I get a text from sloot after class saying "that was the most ignorant thing ive ever heard ughh disgusting"
- now im tripping balls on what the dean might say, cus im on an athletic scholarship and im scared ****less of the consequences.
- I legitametly wasnt tryna be a cheeky kunt, I thought my answer was valid!!!
- What do misc?



pic of said sloot

Out of a class of 150 you actually go to her office? She probably doesn't even know your name. Would have ignored the bish and to hell with what she says to the dean. You thought it was a possible answer. Fukc 'em.

[sozwut]

regardless of gender, the "weaker" are always the ones who are harassed. Take a look at elementary/middle schools, for example. In cases of bullying, the stronger/bigger kids are never the ones getting bullied - it's the smaller/weaker ones. The same applies to the work place. The weaker ones, the females, may be the ones getting harassed. Women ARE, as you said, on average, the physically weaker ones. Lol if your teacher tries to argue that.

[RealDanger]

Brb lie to her, say you were joking around, and you think men are equal to woman, apologize to class and teacher, then problem = solved.

[Ikeman83]

It isn't really fair to judge OP's response as "ignorant" when your answer was just "patriarchal norms", the canned, non-empirical response that comes from anybody who has even glanced at a sociology book without looking into the studies themselves. I mean, I believe there are lived consequences of patriarchy, but if we get into the why of the patriarchy, it isn't unreasonable or ignorant to bring biology, which can involve physical strength, into the matter. Social constructs are worth talking about, definitely, but they aren't the be-all, end-all of the argument.

On a semi-related note, it's worth pointing out for the sake of the thread, that the amount of men who file sexual harassment charges in the workplace has doubled from 1999-2009 according to statistics from the EEOC.

I'm going to answer this statement as well as Snerf's in a single post, since you both mention biology (with Snerf drawing the comparison to the playground). First, biology would provide a physical advantage for men to harass/abuse women in a situation where there were no consequences, because women are at a distinct disadvantage to men, generally. This is of course also true for larger children bullying smaller children on the playground. However, the question wasn't, "why could men harass/abuse women in the workplace" but "why are women more frequently abused". Since we live in a society where physical violence and verbal harassment are punished, the question becomes, why does it happen anyway? The answer is because of societal views regarding women (this is the same reason why a girl the OP has banged is apparently a "sloot"), and small group interactions where one individual is "different" from the rest. If the answer was simply "because men are stronger than women", then all males would constantly harass all females at all times, which isn't the case.

With regards to the doubling of sexual harassment charges, I'm not surprised at all. The laws have to be written in such a way as to be both open to interpretation and very loose to allow for a wide variety of unexpected individual cases, and they have to be gender neutral. If you can get a huge pile of scratch because your boss wears a dress and told you that you look nice in your suit the other day,(or vice versa for that matter) the only thing stopping you from taking advantage is moral responsibility, and in this economy, no one can really afford that.

[morris_kg]

It's plain and simple OP. She asked if anyone could "guess" why. You "guessed". You can't help it that she didn't like your answer.

You should turn the tables on her when you go to the meeting. Say that you took offence to her "guessing" that wemon are more harrassed than men. Tell them it seemed like she was implying that men "fill in blank".

Trust me, they'll take it a lot more seriously if you claim harrassment and say she's a sexist teacher..

Be a man, stand up for yourself! Now is your time to rise, don't let it slip through your fingers..

[HelloFromHell]

"The general trend is for boys both to bully and be bullied more than girls. Victims report that about 65% of bullying is perpetrated by boys, 15% by girls, and 19% by boys and girls (Boulton & Underwood, 1992). In a recent Olweus (1991a) study, more than 60% of girls bullied in grades 5-7 were bullied by boys only and an additional 15 to 20% were bullied by both boys and girls. More than 80% of victimized boys are bullied by boys. The type of bullying varies according to gender as well. Boy bullies are three to four times more likely to inflict physical assaults than girl bullies (Eron, Huesmann, Dubow, Romanoff, & Yamel, 1987), whereas girls use more ridicule and teasing (Hoover, Oliver, & Hazler, 1992). Olweus has labeled open attacks as direct bullying and social isolation and exclusion from the group as indirect bullying." (Batsche & Knoff, 1994)

"Men typically saw victims as �weak� and �incompetent�. In contrast, women seemed to emphasize the personality of the perpetrator and group dynamics. Women tended to see tyrannical aggressors or to explain bullying in terms of a scapegoat phenomenon" (Salin, 2005)

Supports your theory, assuming this pattern transferred to the work place.

"co-worker bullying has been found to be more prevalent among women than among men" and "Several studies have found that men and women perceive themselves as being bullied equally often (Einarsen & Skogstad 1996, Hoel & Cooper 2000, Keashly et al. 1994, Kivim�ki, Elovainio & Vahtera 2000, Leymann 1992a, Piirainen et al. 2000, Quine 1999, Vartia 1991)" (Vartia-Vaananen, 2003)

The question wasn't even valid, like previous poster said.

Batsche, G. M. & knoff, H. M., 1994. BULLIES AND THEIR VICTIMS: UNDERSTANDING A PERVASIVE PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOLS. School Psychology Review, I(23), pp. 165-175.

Salin, D., 2005. Workplace Bullying among Business Professionals: Prevalence, Gender Differences and the Role of Organizational Politics. Pistes, VII(3).

Vartia-Vaananen, M., 2003. Workplace bullying - A study on the work environment, well-being and health, Helsinki: People and Work Research Report.

[Beiberhole]

Brb lie to her, say you were joking around, and you think men are equal to woman, apologize to class and teacher, then problem = solved.

And then hand over your man card. OP I would irate. Absolutely irate. This is something I would fight tooth and nail. In fact I find it very hard to believe this is even srs. How could they freak out over such a benign comment. Srs I would do everything I could to put the professor in her place.

[Beiberhole]

it's plain and simple op. She asked if anyone could "guess" why. You "guessed". You can't help it that she didn't like your answer.

You should turn the tables on her when you go to the meeting. Say that you took offence to her "guessing" that wemon are more harrassed than men. Tell them it seemed like she was implying that men "fill in blank".

Trust me, they'll take it a lot more seriously if you claim harrassment and say she's a sexist teacher..

Be a man, stand up for yourself! Now is your time to rise, don't let it slip through your fingers..

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[Ikeman83]

"The general trend is for boys both to bully and be bullied more than girls. Victims report that about 65% of bullying is perpetrated by boys, 15% by girls, and 19% by boys and girls (Boulton & Underwood, 1992). In a recent Olweus (1991a) study, more than 60% of girls bullied in grades 5-7 were bullied by boys only and an additional 15 to 20% were bullied by both boys and girls. More than 80% of victimized boys are bullied by boys. The type of bullying varies according to gender as well. Boy bullies are three to four times more likely to inflict physical assaults than girl bullies (Eron, Huesmann, Dubow, Romanoff, & Yamel, 1987), whereas girls use more ridicule and teasing (Hoover, Oliver, & Hazler, 1992). Olweus has labeled open attacks as direct bullying and social isolation and exclusion from the group as indirect bullying." (Batsche & Knoff, 1994)

"Men typically saw victims as ‘weak’ and ‘incompetent’. In contrast, women seemed to emphasize the personality of the perpetrator and group dynamics. Women tended to see tyrannical aggressors or to explain bullying in terms of a scapegoat phenomenon" (Salin, 2005)

Supports your theory, assuming this pattern transferred to the work place.

"co-worker bullying has been found to be more prevalent among women than among men" and "Several studies have found that men and women perceive themselves as being bullied equally often (Einarsen & Skogstad 1996, Hoel & Cooper 2000, Keashly et al. 1994, Kivim�ki, Elovainio & Vahtera 2000, Leymann 1992a, Piirainen et al. 2000, Quine 1999, Vartia 1991)" (Vartia-Vaananen, 2003)

The question wasn't even valid, like previous poster said.

Batsche, G. M. & knoff, H. M., 1994. BULLIES AND THEIR VICTIMS: UNDERSTANDING A PERVASIVE PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOLS. School Psychology Review, I(23), pp. 165-175.

Salin, D., 2005. Workplace Bullying among Business Professionals: Prevalence, Gender Differences and the Role of Organizational Politics. Pistes, VII(3).

Vartia-Vaananen, M., 2003. Workplace bullying - A study on the work environment, well-being and health, Helsinki: People and Work Research Report.

Male bullies being 3-4 times more likely to inflict physical assaults does not correlate to "men being stronger than women"

[deadsoul]

The answer is because of societal views regarding women (this is the same reason why a girl the OP has banged is apparently a "sloot"), and small group interactions where one individual is "different" from the rest. If the answer was simply "because men are stronger than women", then all males would constantly harass all females at all times, which isn't the case.

Interestingly enough, this study shows that women are harassed more in environments where they aren't different. In other words, gender-equal environments yield more harassment towards women than environments where women are the minority. At least, in this study: http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/sexharass.htm

Regarding your statement that "males would constantly harass females" if physical strength were a factor, I get what you're saying, but the argument that could be made is that the very reason patriarchy is so successful is because of the psychological and physiological responses to biology that reaffirms the social conditioning. Nature meets nurture. There are currently some shadowy connections being made in fields like evolutionary psychology about this, but I don't think there is enough room to say anything substantial. OP's response is not an answer I would give, but I think it's wrong to think what OP said is insanely ignorant.

[DisregardLegs]

cite a wikipedia article on testosterone and then tell the prof to suk ur dik (profit.)

[ispy]

sounds like this could possibly be a roll bread. if it's not, then this is one of those cases where trolling in regards to men vs women should be left on the internets where your anonymity is intact. better lawyer up before going to that meeting.

[dakensta]

- What do misc?

move to a different country.
srs.