RANT: i am obese and on a phone

[Miketoc]

I don't think it is slowing down his employment or salary prospects.

I have a love/hate relationship with BC.

He seems to be starring in either amazing or atrocious movies.

I liked Limitless and Hangovers obviously, but I couldn't think of anything else I've seen him in. I IMDB'd his bio, and yeah I haven't seen most those movies. The A-Team was bad, but I liked him in it and thought he did a good job. The rest I can't recall seeing.

[adamdavidson47]

I liked Limitless and Hangovers obviously, but I couldn't think of anything else I've seen him in. I IMDB'd his bio, and yeah I haven't seen most those movies. The A-Team was bad, but I liked him in it and thought he did a good job. The rest I can't recall seeing.

I just read his IMDB list of flaming turds.

He appears to be the Doritoson of Hollywood. A few awesome movies and a bunch of irrelevant garbage than nobody watches or cares about.

[kvk1]

He's an "actor's actor" though. I admire that about him.

He's not a pretty boy that got thrown in a script for the eye candy.

He actually comes from the college of arts and sciences of Pace University.

Of James Lipton/Inside the Actors Studio fame.



He couldn't stop crying when they invited him back as the subject of the program.

[Miketoc]

I just read his IMDB list of flaming turds.

He appears to be the Doritoson of Hollywood. A few awesome movies and a bunch of irrelevant garbage than nobody watches or cares about.

A few awesome anythings automatically disqualifies you from any comparisons.

[adamdavidson47]

A few awesome anythings automatically disqualifies you from any comparisons.

[Miketoc]

He's an "actor's actor" though. I admire that about him.

He's not a pretty boy that got thrown in a script for the eye candy.

He actually comes from the college of arts and sciences of Pace University.

Of James Lipton/Inside the Actors Studio fame.
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He couldn't stop crying when they invited him back as the subject of the program.

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That's awesome.

[kvk1]

That's awesome.

I know. It's genuinely outstanding. He's a good lad.

[chazzy1864]

I liked Limitless and Hangovers obviously, but I couldn't think of anything else I've seen him in. I IMDB'd his bio, and yeah I haven't seen most those movies. The A-Team was bad, but I liked him in it and thought he did a good job. The rest I can't recall seeing.

He was the D-bag in Wedding Crashers and one of the best friendsin Failure to Launch (a Matthew McWhatshisface movie).

I saw All about Steve on FX. Had Sandra Bullock. Goofy movie. Worthy enough to pass the time and not hate yourself. Not good enough to put forth effort to see. He had a small role in Yes Man (funny Jim Carrey movie).

He was pretty good in The Midnight Meat Train.

That is all I've seen him in.

[Farley1324]

Last ******** post of John Noveske before he died in a single car accident

Not sure about the facts here, I received this from a friend.

----John

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Colombine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, ***** and ******. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of ***** in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list…3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven’t heard about being on drugs of some kind

[mjw8204]

Doritoson is the Rant poster equivalent of a straight-to-VHS movie that was dropped off at Goodwill after being found at the bottom of a dusty, cobwebbed box in a cluttered attic that was cleaned out after the owner of the house passed away.

[therorschach]

They had James Lipton as the subject of his own show and Dave Chappelle hosted it.

[GREENFEATHER]

I like Rick Astley.

[chazzy1864]

Doritoson is the Rant poster equivalent of a straight-to-VHS movie that was dropped off at Goodwill after being found at the bottom of a dusty, cobwebbed box in a cluttered attic that was cleaned out after the owner of the house passed away.

Quite specific and descriptive.

I like Rick Astley.

So do I.

[adamdavidson47]

Doritoson is the Rant poster equivalent of a straight-to-VHS movie that was dropped off at Goodwill after being found at the bottom of a dusty, cobwebbed box in a cluttered attic that was cleaned out after the owner of the house passed away.

That starred Shannon Tweed

[mrmrbill00003]

Shannon Tweed

Great actress! The emotional depth, character believability ... should've been nominated for a pair of Golden Globes.

[Miketoc]

Chazzy: I only saw it once long ago and I was kinda F'd up at the time, I believe I may have even "lost time" during some of it, but I remember sorta liking it. HTH.

[Miketoc]

Last ******** post of John Noveske before he died in a single car accident

Not sure about the facts here, I received this from a friend.

----John

While you don't come right out and say it, by reposting you imply that these drugs may be a common factor and thus a starting point (or research point) for a solution to mitigate/prevent these things. I applaud you for the first semi (albeit through my own interpretation and putting words in your mouth/brain) constructive post in the gun debate argument.

[Farley1324]

While you don't come right out and say it, by reposting you imply that these drugs may be a common factor and thus a starting point (or research point) for a solution to mitigate/prevent these things. I applaud you for the first semi (albeit through my own interpretation and putting words in your mouth/brain) constructive post in the gun debate argument.

That wouldn't make it a gun debate, that would make it a mental illness/medication debate.

I'm sorry you didn't find flat out disproving everything the 'other side' has said to be constructive. I guess the best defense is a good offense, after all.

[mjw8204]

That wouldn't make it a gun debate, that would make it a mental illness/medication debate.

I'm sorry you didn't find flat out disproving everything the 'other side' has said to be constructive. I guess the best defense is a good offense, after all.

Have you come across any research that shows a significant cross section of mental illness medication and gun violence?

[GREENFEATHER]

Great actress! The emotional depth, character believability ... should've been nominated for a pair of Golden Globes.

You mean SILICONE Globes?

[Miketoc]

That wouldn't make it a gun debate, that would make it a mental illness/medication debate.

I'm sorry you didn't find flat out disproving everything the 'other side' has said to be constructive. I guess the best defense is a good offense, after all.

That is a huge part of the gun debate. People are trying to find a solution/preventative measure to these mass shootings. Presenting an alternative solution vs stricter gun laws is a good way to actually debate the issue vs constantly saying their ideas won't work let's do nothing.

[Farley1324]

Have you come across any research that shows a significant cross section of mental illness medication and gun violence?

I have not.

But the correlation is impossible to ignore, and the only other significant correlation I have noticed is the selection of "gun free" (aka criminal empowerment) zones as the target(s).

That is a huge part of the gun debate. People are trying to find a solution/preventative measure to these mass shootings. Presenting an alternative solution vs stricter gun laws is a good way to actually debate the issue vs constantly saying their ideas won't work let's do nothing.

I don't have an alternative solution, exactly, just a different focus of what the 'problem' is. I don't have a concrete suggestion on what to do about it...I (and the public in general, it seems) don't know enough about it. The research mjw asked about above would be a GREAT start, though.

Also, I guess you didn't see those posts, but I have certainly made suggestions about what to do.

Stop making schools and certain other locations prime targets by declaring them to be "gun free", thus ensuring that the psychopath does not meet armed resistance. That should be step 1, and should have been done years ago. Declaring these locations "gun free" is about as useful as making murder illegal. At least have controlled access with armed security to back it up, like many court houses and government buildings and prisons/jails. Then the "gun free" (well, other than the armed guards/LEOs) label might actually carry some weight

[mjw8204]

I have not.

But the correlation is impossible to ignore, and the only other significant correlation I have noticed is the selection of "gun free" (aka criminal empowerment) zones as the target(s).

Significant statistically, or significant "that's how it looks to me?"

[Final_Rep]

What's the null hypothesis for the drug post above?

[mjw8204]

What's the null hypothesis for the drug post above?

The null hypothesis is that Frep isn't going to stop posting in the Rant. You can help us to accept the alternative hypothesis.

[kvk1]

Free-wifi hotspots. (Masturbation empowerment zones.)

[Final_Rep]

The null hypothesis is that Frep isn't going to stop posting in the Rant. You can help us to accept the alternative hypothesis.

But really.

A bunch of people were on drugs, presumably because they had, oh, I dunno... mental health problems?

And we've all pretty well agreed that anyone who shoots a dozen kids has serious mental health problems.

So, the hypotheses:
- These people are behaving less violently because of the help (drugs) they get (here is where you can't prove the null?)
- These people are behaving more violently because of the help they get (some amateur psychiatrist makes a FB post?)

Point: Not enough data to draw a conclusion, but people will do it anyway.

"OMG look at all these crazy people who are taking medication and doing bad things! forget that they were crazy already, it MUST be the drugs! YARRRRdsjadgasdgasdgas"

[mjw8204]

Free-wifi hotspots. (Masturbation empowerment zones.)

We can prevent gun violence by making sure that only mentally healthy people have access to anti-psychotics.

[kvk1]

We can prevent gun violence by making sure that only mentally healthy people have access to anti-psychotics.

[Farley1324]

Significant statistically, or significant "that's how it looks to me?"

Does it look different to you?

The vast majority of these mass/public shootings have occurred where firearms are prohibited and, often, illegal.

Possession of a firearm in the the vast majority of locations within these states is not prohibited or illegal.

In all of the big name/big body count cases, firearms were prohibited/illegal.

If you wish to disagree with these observations, please do so.

But really.

A bunch of people were on drugs, presumably because they had, oh, I dunno... mental health problems?

And we've all pretty well agreed that anyone who shoots a dozen kids has serious mental health problems.

So, the hypotheses:
- These people are behaving less violently because of the help (drugs) they get (here is where you can't prove the null?)
- These people are behaving more violently because of the help they get (some amateur psychiatrist makes a FB post?)

Point: Not enough data to draw a conclusion, but people will do it anyway.

"OMG look at all these crazy people who are taking medication and doing bad things! forget that they were crazy already, it MUST be the drugs! YARRRRdsjadgasdgasdgas"

Who said that?

Where did they say that?



Personally, I post it because it seems extremely likely that mental illness is the problem here. The fact that SO MANY of them are on medications for it is a pretty good indicator that they were mentally ill...and somebody KNEW they were mentally ill. Hence, mentall illness is a major issue here.