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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    *What's that? Permit holders can carry in K-12 schools in Kansas...and it isn't a problem? Seems they are arguing against their own position here.
    My soon-to-be-15-year-old nephew and I were discussing gun laws this evening. Even he says additional gun laws won't work. I didn't put ideas into his head. He said that himself.

    He told me there is already an armed police officer assigned to his high school and surrounding parking lot.

    BTW, his high school is far from the KCK ghetto.

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    Originally Posted by ossizen View Post
    My soon-to-be-15-year-old nephew and I were discussing gun laws this evening. Even he says additional gun laws won't work. I didn't put ideas into his head. He said that himself.
    well glad that is settled then.

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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    well glad that is settled then.
    lol

    I was armed with a similar retort.

    It's actually pretty impressive how many logical fallacies he was able to fit into a single statement.
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    Originally Posted by Hola Bola View Post
    Only the police should have high-powered engines.

    If civilians had them, they could use them to flee the scene of crimes and outrun the police. If we restrict cars to go only 80mph, then the police can catch criminals more easily and we'll be a lot safer.

    C'mon car nuts, we're not banning cars, we're just limiting the types of cars you can buy. You can be happy with your Corollas and Station wagons.

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    Banning high powered cars will solve nothing. It's a basic human right to drive a 460 hp car, just because other people use them to break the speed limit and run people over does not mean they are dangerous in and of themselves. If we gave everyone a high powered car then drivers who intended to drive recklessly would be stopped by other drivers of high powered cars before they could run too many people over. In fact, I think having speed limits is also an infringement upon my rights. Define "reckless" driving. Define "speeding".
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    TAAB got his ass kicked.
    I still want to know who won the sacko bowl, any ranter?
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    Originally Posted by Miketoc View Post
    Define "reckless" driving. Define "speeding".
    I'm going to assume that since nobody responded within the first minute of your post, they must either agree with you or have no formidable argument to present.

    Nicely done, Miketoc.

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    Originally Posted by mjw8204 View Post
    I'm going to assume that since nobody responded within the first minute of your post, they must either agree with you or have no formidable argument to present.

    Nicely done, Miketoc.
    Somewhat unrelated, but Kansas actually makes no distinction between careless and reckless driving. The careless/inattentive driving ticket I received in Missouri in '07 became reckless in Kansas when the Dept of Revenue received the ticket. As a result, KS revoked my license for 90 days in '07.

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    Originally Posted by ossizen View Post
    Somewhat unrelated, but Kansas actually makes no distinction between careless and reckless driving. The careless/inattentive driving ticket I received in Missouri in '07 became reckless in Kansas when the Dept of Revenue received the ticket. As a result, KS revoked my license for 90 days in '07.
    Well, hopefully it motivated you to become a safer driver.

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    Originally Posted by mjw8204 View Post
    Well, hopefully it motivated you to become a safer driver.
    In a way it did. I rear-ended a car on an interstate (the group of 3 cars just sitting there stranded in the right lane when the backup wasn't for another mile). All 4 of us drivers received the careless driving citation. Missouri uses the points system (maybe 1 point), but Kansas doesn't use the points system.

    I was not paying attention to the road, pure and simple.

    But the reckless driving charge was almost double-jeopardy going from careless to reckless.

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    Originally Posted by Miketoc View Post
    Banning high powered cars will solve nothing. It's a basic human right to drive a 460 hp car, just because other people use them to break the speed limit and run people over does not mean they are dangerous in and of themselves. If we gave everyone a high powered car then drivers who intended to drive recklessly would be stopped by other drivers of high powered cars before they could run too many people over. In fact, I think having speed limits is also an infringement upon my rights. Define "reckless" driving. Define "speeding".
    Agreed. In addition, not all vehicular homicides are bad/negative. Justified automobile deaths don't count. We should plot a graph of "good" automobile deaths vs automobile ownership % and then make out afterwards.
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    Farley,

    I never wanted to debate... But when I read that article and the part you quoted was taken completely out of context by yourself I couldn't just walk away. FWIW I try to read most posts in here, the long ones included, including anything linked by the regulars (e.g. I read the entire Mother Jones article, etc).

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    Farley,

    I never wanted to debate... But when I read that article and the part you quoted was taken completely out of context by yourself I couldn't just walk away. FWIW I try to read most posts in here, the long ones included, including anything linked by the regulars (e.g. I read the entire Mother Jones article, etc).

    Sorry for the long delay in responding btw; I was out taking photos most of the day. Almost caught frostbite on this one:

    [img]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/398742_10151298607483624_1370179146_n.jpg[img]
    It was a fact, and one that easily stands on its own as it does not rely on or reference anything else. I don't think it needs a context.

    And, like I said, I'm not going to put the time/effort into going through an entire article again because nobody cares, most people have already made up their minds and to even pretend to try and open them up to new facts/ideas, IMO and IME, requires an IRL FTF encounter. If/when somebody disagrees with anything that I said when discrediting the mother jones article, I will consider actually putting effort into it again. I doubt that will happen, though.







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    One of your best IMO. You could bring out even more tones in the sky with a grad filter in LR and warm the scene up a little more but it's fine the way it is.

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    Originally Posted by Final_Rep View Post
    Farley,

    I never wanted to debate... But when I read that article and the part you quoted was taken completely out of context by yourself I couldn't just walk away. FWIW I try to read most posts in here, the long ones included, including anything linked by the regulars (e.g. I read the entire Mother Jones article, etc).

    Sorry for the long delay in responding btw; I was out taking photos most of the day. Almost caught frostbite on this one:

    awesome photo. doesnt make me want to move up there at all but it is a beautiful picture lol.
    You would be surprised just how much time I have to waste.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    It was a fact, and one that easily stands on its own as it does not rely on or reference anything else.
    That you say this just means you didn't read as far as the *next paragraph* of the article... where the author explains why the fact in question doesn't stand on its own at all but is correlated to overall drop in crime rates over the time period.

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    One of your best IMO. You could bring out even more tones in the sky with a grad filter in LR and warm the scene up a little more but it's fine the way it is.
    Thank you - I will have to play around with that digital ND grad.

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    awesome photo. doesnt make me want to move up there at all but it is a beautiful picture lol.
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    That you say this just means you didn't read as far as the *next paragraph* of the article... where the author explains why the fact in question doesn't stand on its own at all but is correlated to overall drop in crime rates over the time period.
    I did. And I still believe it does, for reasons I already mentioned (and probably other reasons)

    But that would bring us further into the debate you aren't looking for.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I did. And I still believe it does, for reasons I already mentioned (and probably other reasons)

    But that would bring us further into the debate you aren't looking for.
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    It's officially Christmas Day here.

    To all of you freezing your nuts off, Australians will be sweating it out over BBQs today and lounging around the beach.

    One day I will spend Christmas on a beach. One day.

    Originally Posted by Miketoc View Post
    I failed 340, but so just very barely.

    I blame these antibiotics and this bronchitis. I'm so enraged right meow.
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    Originally Posted by Miketoc View Post
    I failed 340, but so just very barely.

    I blame these antibiotics and this bronchitis. I'm so enraged right meow.
    What? 340 what?

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    Originally Posted by kvk1 View Post
    What? 340 what?
    Maybe it's blowjobs.
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