Precontest shape with iifym?

[Tyh91]

Has anyone, or anyone know an individual who has gotten in pre contest shape, or very low body fat with iffym? People seem to think its a revelation,but I am still skeptical.

[Esthetique]

most pro bbers

[Willgetnice]

I think there's just a huge misunderstanding of IIFYM. My take on it is that it's a meme which translates as bodybuilders don't have to eat ONLY boiled chicken, brown rice, and broccoli for 6 months.

I took top 5 in all my shows this year and I had a diet replete with micro-nutrient dense food sources (veggies, sweet potatoes, etc.) with lean meats and egg whites, and I also had frozen yogurt and other "taboo" bodybuilder foods throughout the entire prep (again, as long as these foods fit my macronutrient ranges for the day).

[Esthetique]

If you IIFYM to hard, your stomach will be ****ed, so just keep it as "clean" as you can, but when you feel like eating "junk", feel free to do so.

[Tyh91]

I agree I get a wide variety of proteins,fats,and carbs, wouldn't say I'm deprived or " or limited to just chicken and sweet potatoes" but a lot of people claim mcdonalnds,burger king, ice cream etc, I just find that hard to believe, epseicaly since some and most of these are empty cals that spike insulin.

I think there's just a huge misunderstanding of IIFYM. My take on it is that it's a meme which translates as bodybuilders don't have to eat ONLY boiled chicken, brown rice, and broccoli for 6 months.

I took top 5 in all my shows this year and I had a diet replete with micro-nutrient dense food sources (veggies, sweet potatoes, etc.) with lean meats and egg whites, and I also had frozen yogurt and other "taboo" bodybuilder foods throughout the entire prep (again, as long as these foods fit my macronutrient ranges for the day).

[AnderJaspo]

I agree I get a wide variety of proteins,fats,and carbs, wouldn't say I'm deprived or " or limited to just chicken and sweet potatoes" but a lot of people claim mcdonalnds,burger king, ice cream etc, I just find that hard to believe, epseicaly since some and most of these are empty cals that spike insulin.

What's wrong with insulin? Would you happen to be diabetic?

[Tyh91]

What's wrong with insulin? Would you happen to be diabetic?

Nope not me, but insulin is the storage hormone, and responsible for excessive fat storage. I do believe meal timing is relevant to an extent.

[Nexxus]

Matt Ogus, Timbahwolf, this guy on the forum forgot his username... Niko something (Polska genetix lol), Josef Rakich

bunch of others that I can't name off the top of my head...

[Verint]

Nope not me, but insulin is the storage hormone, and responsible for excessive fat storage. I do believe meal timing is relevant to an extent.

Do you know that whey protein also spikes insulin? Then why aren't you labeling it as a "dirty" food that is responsible for excessive fat storage?

[Spencer43783]

Nope not me, but insulin is the storage hormone, and responsible for excessive fat storage. I do believe meal timing is relevant to an extent.

Excessive calories are responsible for fat storage. The GI of foods is completely irrelevent as soon as you add protein, fat or other carbs sources to said food. Meal timing is not nearly as important as you think it is.

[Willgetnice]

McD's and Burger King are fine when "dieting" as long as the calories in said food sources fit that person's macronutrient targets. Unless they're able to get away with a high fat diet while still leaning out, which probably means they'll have to cut these restaurants out or at least opt out of super sizing, they'll probably eat elsewhere.

I found that the lower my calories got it was just more comfortable to eat "cleaner" foods since they're usually more voluminous.

[KevJr88]

Most body builder diets I've seen posted online (especially pre contest) track every last macro nutrient to the "T."

[OoChadwickoO]

Yeppers, just matters about your macros, Somesaid Ogus, and he does he just states to try and hit your micros before like 5 cups of veggies or whatever he said, Good Luck OP!

[greekmanman]

you must be new here

[OoChadwickoO]

you must be new here

Ah the Lui!!! Inspiration!

[necon76]

If you IIFYM to hard, your stomach will be ****ed, so just keep it as "clean" as you can, but when you feel like eating "junk", feel free to do so.

Wat.

[tazmanpa]

Nope not me, but insulin is the storage hormone, and responsible for excessive fat storage. I do believe meal timing is relevant to an extent.

Insulin is the storage hormone and it is also responsible for transporting the nutrients to your muscles to help them grow.

[ErickStevens]

Nope.

[VQ35DE]

Anyone have that picture from Mike Mentzer's book where he talks about eating pancakes pre-contest?

EDIT: Found it



Mike Mentzer - Heavy Duty Nutrition

[CutItUp9759]

Anyone have that picture from Mike Mentzer's book where he talks about eating pancakes pre-contest?

EDIT: Found it

Okay this picture should help put to rest a lot of bros I hope

[PR1MO]

God told me to eat clean. His voice was coming out of a flaming tree in my backyard.

[naturalguy]

Matt Ogus, Timbahwolf, this guy on the forum forgot his username... Niko something (Polska genetix lol), Josef Rakich

bunch of others that I can't name off the top of my head...

Timbawolf eats cat food, srs

[Menschie]

but a lot of people claim mcdonalnds,burger king, ice cream etc, I just find that hard to believe, epseicaly since some and most of these are empty cals that spike insulin.

You've been reading, but you've been reading the wrong outdated stuff. What the huge inspirational guys have just said in this thread, that don't stand to make any money or notoriety for saying it?... that.

[AlwaysTryin]

Once again, another person using the stupid acronym and having no idea

99% of bodybuilders would use it

[PR1MO]

Timbawolf eats cat food, srs

Cats are ripped

[mike201011]

Timbawolf eats cat food, srs

Cats are ripped

inb4 pug

[Tyh91]

So then I might as well say **** it all,Post workout doesnt count, avoiding carbs at night doesnt count either then because thats irrelevant..thats all I'm hearing. Why are many nutritionists,fitness experts, and gurus so dramatic on which macronutrient you choose and how it comes? What matters is calories in vs calories out, what if I'm eating a 2 cups of raisen bran for breakfast, chocolate for a snack, chicken sandwich and a baked potato for lunch, then low fat spaghetti for dinner? All while maintaining a caloric deficit, Where as anyone following this retarded diet iv clearly just displayed would be highly criticized. If insulin is present and constant fat burning is blunted.

[VQ35DE]

Okay this picture should help put to rest a lot of bros I hope

The good ol' days when bodybuilders gave advice to help young lifters. Nowadays most just give the advice that make the supplement company sponsoring them happy.

So then I might as well say **** it all,Post workout doesnt count, avoiding carbs at night doesnt count either then because thats irrelevant..thats all I'm hearing. Why are many nutritionists,fitness experts, and gurus so dramatic on which macronutrient you choose and how it comes? What matters is calories in vs calories out, what if I'm eating a 2 cups of raisen bran for breakfast, chocolate for a snack, chicken sandwich and a baked potato for lunch, then low fat spaghetti for dinner? All while maintaining a caloric deficit, Where as anyone following this retarded diet iv clearly just displayed would be highly criticized. If insulin is present and constant fat burning is blunted.

Forget all that insulin makes you fat baloney. Mentzer had it right 35 years ago, somehow common sense in the general public has gone out the window recently regarding nutrition.

While the names of food you eat may differ a minuscule amount in TEF the laws of thermodynamics still holds true. Energy cant be created or disappear into thin air. Cals in vs Cals out.

[Spencer43783]

If you're a normal, healthy individual, forget everything you've ever heard from the news, friends, bros at the gym, magazines, etc. Hit your protein, fat, carbs, micros, and fiber how ever the hell you want. It doesn't matter. The only thing you should try to avoid is trans fat. Just be realistic about it. Moderation goes a long way.

Want concrete studies? www.pubmed.com

The must read threads for newbies that are in this section are also an excellent source.

[libtolu]

So then I might as well say **** it all,Post workout doesnt count, avoiding carbs at night doesnt count either then because thats irrelevant..thats all I'm hearing. Why are many nutritionists,fitness experts, and gurus so dramatic on which macronutrient you choose and how it comes? What matters is calories in vs calories out, what if I'm eating a 2 cups of raisen bran for breakfast, chocolate for a snack, chicken sandwich and a baked potato for lunch, then low fat spaghetti for dinner? All while maintaining a caloric deficit, Where as anyone following this retarded diet iv clearly just displayed would be highly criticized. If insulin is present and constant fat burning is blunted.

You seem to have forgotten the macros part. If you're still hitting your protein,carb and fat macros at your required calorie intake then sure this diet would be fine