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    Yes, and Anderson will fight anybody any time except Jon Jones. Jones will ultimately move to heavyweight, he's too big not to, people who don't like him say he is "cheating" by competing at LHW which was what I was referencing. For another example of this phenomenon:

    Originally Posted by Mrs Grudge View Post
    People blow out how big Silva is. They look and see a lanky guy who dominates his weight class and pretends like he's too big for it (which doesn't even make sense, you can't be too big for your weight class if you make weight every time....thats the point of a weight class). Most of the guys Silva's defended his championship against have fought at 205.
    That. The cut to 185 doesn't look particularly strenuous for him because of his naturally lanky build. If he walks around at 234 it's a ****ty 234 because 50 of it comes off pretty damn fast and easy. That said, I'm not a huge fan of a catchweight because it gives the heavier guy a built in copout and the fight wouldn't be as good. In a superfight I don't much care who is better at cutting weight, I just wanna see who is the better fighter.
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    Face it folks, this fight is never gonna happen. So Dana and everyone else needs to stop bringing it up.
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    good. these champ vs champ fights are bad for the sport
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    gsp's reservations are blatently evident every time hes asked about it
    even in the post fight interview when d. white boldly stated "it doesnt matter how these guys feel about it, their under contract and this fight will happen" i figured gsp would come out with some sort of public statement for his opposition for this fight.
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    Originally Posted by Kingpig View Post
    gsp's reservations are blatently evident every time hes asked about it
    even in the post fight interview when d. white boldly stated "it doesnt matter how these guys feel about it, their under contract and this fight will happen" i figured gsp would come out with some sort of public statement for his opposition for this fight.
    Well if Dana said it, it must be true, and it's not like GSP would ever just retire if Dana pushed too hard because he clearly needs the money. That's why he fights so often.
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    Why isn't there more pressure on Anderson to step up and fight Jon Jones (srs) He's already dipped his feet into LHW and the water seems invitin, meanwhile GSP has never fought above 170.

    For the record I think GSP blankets Silva for 5 rounds to a decision win at 170, and gets knocked out at 185. That 15 lbs separating the two is the most significant weight difference between 2 neighboring divisions in all of MMA
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    Originally Posted by CLEAN_SET_OF_10 View Post
    Why isn't there more pressure on Anderson to step up and fight Jon Jones (srs) He's already dipped his feet into LHW and the water seems invitin, meanwhile GSP has never fought above 170.
    GSP and Anderson have cleaned out their divisions and been dominant years before Jon Jones was even a name anyone cared about. That's why.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    GSP and Anderson have cleaned out their divisions and been dominant years before Jon Jones was even a name anyone cared about. That's why.
    Lol.. Anderson and GSP have more competition right now that Jones..


    Isn't it odd that Jones will of had his last two title defenses against MW contenders who moved up?
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    I think he will have 2 more fights before thinking about stepping into the ring with him. Anderson drop's 205'ers like flies when he lands a clean shot, I'm sure GSP is aware that if he "gets caught" similar to how Condit landed that kick he will die. He can afford literally 0 mistakes if he wants to win a fight against Anderson so jumping into a fight with him after 1 fight back after a long lay off probably isn't a wise decision in his mind. If he wins this fight his legacy that he keeps talking about will he will go down in history as the best. If he loses he will be that guy that was not quite good enough. But people just want to see fights happen.
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    Originally Posted by IAmBatman View Post
    Lol.. Anderson and GSP have more competition right now that Jones..
    Which has nothing to do with my point... and LOL at Anderson having ANY competition at 185. There isn't a single guy who makes any case for challenging him. The 170 division is also very competitive... amongst everyone not named GSP.

    Just b/c the lhw division became weak sauce right as Jones entered his prime doesn't suddenly change the fact that for YEARS now there has been talk of a superfight with GSP/Anderson. And it makes a lot more sense for him to face off with GSP before doing so against Jones. Why have 1 huge fight when you can have both.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    Which has nothing to do with my point... and LOL at Anderson having ANY competition at 185. There isn't a single guy who makes any case for challenging him. The 170 division is also very competitive... amongst everyone not named GSP.
    Exactly! Every fighter that has a few great fights at 170 and looks like the guy that has a chance against GSP gets destroyed. Maybe not finished, but 5 rounds of no chance. I am a GSP fan and would love to see him fight Silva. The way I see it, if he wins, best ever. If he loses, he was out of his weight class. It's a win win to me. However GSP should probably get another fight under his belt after that 18 month layoff.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    Which has nothing to do with my point... and LOL at Anderson having ANY competition at 185. There isn't a single guy who makes any case for challenging him. The 170 division is also very competitive... amongst everyone not named GSP.

    Just b/c the lhw division became weak sauce right as Jones entered his prime doesn't suddenly change the fact that for YEARS now there has been talk of a superfight with GSP/Anderson. And it makes a lot more sense for him to face off with GSP before doing so against Jones. Why have 1 huge fight when you can have both.
    I'm skeptical if he's ready for it next, but Weidman has the right style and skills to challenge Anderson.
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    Originally Posted by RoccoTanno123 View Post
    I'm skeptical if he's ready for it next, but Weidman has the right style and skills to challenge Anderson.
    weidman's out for surgery, possibly 6 months or more. He will def. need another fight after the injury, and win convincingly before there's any talk of him challenging for the belt. So that's over a year away.
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    Originally Posted by IAmBatman View Post
    Lol.. Anderson and GSP have more competition right now that Jones..


    Isn't it odd that Jones will of had his last two title defenses against MW contenders who moved up?
    Lulz. Jones cleaned out the division (which was probably THE most competitive one in the UFC for years) by beating the last FOUR LHW champs in a row. Plz go with that weak-ass argument.

    If GSP doesn't fight Silva he's going to run into a problem soon.... because if Rory Mac beats BJ he'll probably need 1 more fight (against Kos, Fitch, Kampmann) before he's ready for a title shot.
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    I guess in french that translates to GSP: I am scared to death at what horrible things A.Silva would do to me. So unless he noticeably declines and/or gets expose and drops to 170lbs I won't fight him.
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    And Anderson is saying "i'm scared to death of jones' elbows so i'll let my team mates get killed instead"
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    Let's be honest, if any of us were in GSP's position, we'd duck Anderson as much as possible too

    it's unfortunate, but GSP likes where he is, so if he fights Anderson, he's afraid it will tarnish his legacy because he knows he has the odds stacked against him in that fight (mostly due to size difference)

    looks like GSP/Silva is never gonna happen, might as well try to see if Silva/Jones ever materializes
    nah he is playing politics to get more money for the fight

    Lol at thinking a top pro fighter is afraid of anyone especially an all time great like gsp

    I don't think he will win personally but he will take the fight when the money is right.
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    At this rate the UFC is going to have to create a super heavyweight division just to accommodate Anderson Silva. The heaviest fighter in MMA.
    234lb. What???
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    nah he is playing politics to get more money for the fight

    Lol at thinking a top pro fighter is afraid of anyone especially an all time great like gsp

    I don't think he will win personally but he will take the fight when the money is right.
    He may not be afraid of Anderson as a fighter, but ofcourse he is afraid of what would happen to his legacy if he loses. He has made it very clear how important his legacy is to him, and that is probably also a big reason why he fights so 'safe' in his fights and rarely gets a finish.
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    Originally Posted by Bamsha View Post
    He may not be afraid of Anderson as a fighter, but ofcourse he is afraid of what would happen to his legacy if he loses. He has made it very clear how important his legacy is to him, and that is probably also a big reason why he fights so 'safe' in his fights and rarely gets a finish.
    It doesn't effect his legacy at all since he would be moving up to fight him already putting him at a big disadvantage. He has already proven to be the greatest WW of all time his legacy will not be tarnished. Yet since this will obviously be the biggest mma fight of all time he wont rush into it and will want as much money as possible from the ufc for the fight.
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    Originally Posted by RoccoTanno123 View Post
    I'm skeptical if he's ready for it next, but Weidman has the right style and skills to challenge Anderson.
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    It doesn't effect his legacy at all since he would be moving up to fight him already putting him at a big disadvantage. He has already proven to be the greatest WW of all time his legacy will not be tarnished. Yet since this will obviously be the biggest mma fight of all time he wont rush into it and will want as much money as possible from the ufc for the fight.
    Well going by what GSP has said in the past, he does not agree with you, and neither do I.
    I mean sure a loss to Anderson shouldnt be the end of the world since GSP is the smaller guy, but getting dominated and/or stopped might affect him mentally and if he fought Anderson now he would have to go back to ww again with that experience haunting him.

    Not really trying to argue GSP should wait, because I would really want to see Anderson vs GSP now, and if Anderson wins, then Anderson vs JJ.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
    It looks like he's putting that excuse into place already and everyone is giving him that excuse on here. So how would that tarnish his legacy? If GSP loses, people will say "Oh well he is so much lighter and smaller and had to put on weight so he can't keep up with Silva". But if he wins, people will say he is the best ever and Silva just beats crappy fighters. GSP seems to have alot more upside and alot less downside from taking this fight.



    This. I think he is hoping that an older GSP will be better than an older Silva. It will be easier for him to take down Silva if he has a slower reaction time and weaker takedown defense.
    gotta say I agree with you on both counts. Also though, like GSP said, he wants to add the weight and then not come back down but remain at the higher weight in future fights. If he weighs 188 and cuts down to 170, then he's probably gonna wanna fight at 185 when he's walking around and say 203 if we assume that the 18 pound weight cut for weigh-ins will be the same. At least that's how he's making it sound. Sounds to me like he doesn't wanna fight Anderson till he's ready to actually move up in weight class (and for all we know, he ain't in a hurry to put on more muscle right now since he said he's still got more to do at 170, lol).
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    gotta say I agree with you on both counts. Also though, like GSP said, he wants to add the weight and then not come back down but remain at the higher weight in future fights. If he weighs 188 and cuts down to 170, then he's probably gonna wanna fight at 185 when he's walking around and say 203 if we assume that the 18 pound weight cut for weigh-ins will be the same. At least that's how he's making it sound. Sounds to me like he doesn't wanna fight Anderson till he's ready to actually move up in weight class (and for all we know, he ain't in a hurry to put on more muscle right now since he said he's still got more to do at 170, lol).
    He wants to put on the weight and people give him sh*t for taking so long to do it. But it's pretty hard to keep putting on mass while continuing to make 170 at the same time. The commentary on the Condit fight was B.S., he didn't look any bigger than he ever has. The biggest he ever showed up was in the Shields fight, and he looked like crap.

    The funniest part is that all the guys clamoring for him to fight Silva are the same ones constantly bitching about him being a blanket. They want to see him get KTFO, but they pretend they want to see a "superfight." Someone needs to clue you f*ckers in - if you thought GSP was a blanket before, what exactly do you think he's going to do against a guy like Silva? That fight has a pretty good chance of being boring as hell, at least by most people's standards. GSP has enough fans, he'll fight to win, and that involves stapling Silva to the mat at every opportunity.
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    Originally Posted by HardGainer82 View Post
    He wants to put on the weight and people give him sh*t for taking so long to do it. But it's pretty hard to keep putting on mass while continuing to make 170 at the same time.
    He doesn't need to gain any 'mass' he's already well over 185 lbs and ripped. It's just another excuse in his long line of them.

    Originally Posted by HardGainer82 View Post
    The funniest part is that all the guys clamoring for him to fight Silva are the same ones constantly bitching about him being a blanket. They want to see him get KTFO, but they pretend they want to see a "superfight."
    Guilty. Who doesn't want to finally see a GSP fight that didn't end in a decision?
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    He doesn't need to gain any 'mass' he's already well over 185 lbs and ripped. It's just another excuse in his long line of them.


    Guilty. Who doesn't want to finally see a GSP fight that didn't end in a decision?
    now that you've outed yourself as a biased phaggot, you stop spewing your hypocritical bull sh*t.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    He doesn't need to gain any 'mass' he's already well over 185 lbs and ripped. It's just another excuse in his long line of them.


    Guilty. Who doesn't want to finally see a GSP fight that didn't end in a decision?
    He said he 'wants to' obviously he could fight anderson right now with a very mild cut at 185 since thats near his walk around weight. Yet anderson cuts from over 200lbs so he is at a pretty significant size disadvantage. Now this might not seem like much but with high level mma fighters it does make a big difference. He just wants the fight to be favorable for him which is perfectly reasonable since he gains more by winning even if its boring which it most likely will if he were to win. I don't know why people hate on his fighting style when a large majority of guys with a wrestling background do the exact same thing.

    Still I don't think gsp is a better wrestler then chael nor is he as big and anderson beat him twice-quite easily the 2nd time also- so I give him the advantage based on that and the fact gsp has been rocked in the past in the stand up. Still if the money is right he will take the fight no pro fighter will pass up the chance to make a several millions in a 15 min fight.
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    The fight will happen but it will cost Zuffa dearly. GSP, and rightfully so, will have to be bribed and paid more then any other fighter in History. Obviously Silva will have to be paid the same. The fight will probably happen at 175-180 because Silva is clearly the more giving of the 2 and has fought as low as 175 back in 06 or so. Money and lots of it will make this happen. I would suggest that The UFC needs this fight badly in 2013 to make up for a less then stellar 2012. They need to buy their way back into steady growth even if it means 30-40 million for these 2 fighters. No more Brock carnival act means they need to make this happen and happen right now.
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    Watched UFC Silva vs. Maia in Abu Dhabi today for the lulz. Realized GSP was sitting cageside as the next opponent to fight Anderson Silva, while Goldy was claiming that Silva was confident that he good make 170. Dana and false promises please GTFO.
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