Has anyone here experienced Windows 8 by upgrade or purchase? If so, what do you think?
My opinion, I think it may make business owners like me balk at buying it if they buy new computers, because of the learning curve.
Could Windows 8 ultimately be another Vista?
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10-26-2012, 11:39 AM #1Banned
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10-26-2012, 12:04 PM #2Registered User
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It has not even been released yet as far as I know.
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10-26-2012, 12:12 PM #3Lifetime Member
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after using ubuntu i see no need to pay for an operating system.
Windows might have some business advantages but for my personal use it means nothing.
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10-26-2012, 12:18 PM #4Banned
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I think you can get it:Originally Posted by tsoden
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...3ee2csi3Sar42s
Brings up a great point. Most new computers after this month will be pre-loaded with Windows 8. If so, can you uninstall and install Linux or Ubuntu or any other OS?Originally Posted by crupiea
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10-26-2012, 12:20 PM #5Banned
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I was under the impression this isn't for pc's. Just made for tablets? I'm currently cursed with Vista right now
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10-26-2012, 12:49 PM #6Quitting is not an option
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This is the selling feature of Windows 8, it actaullay works on both PC's and Microsoft's Surface tablet.Originally Posted by Iceman1800
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10-26-2012, 12:58 PM #7Registered User
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I have it on 2 machines here at work for testing purposes. It is....um......something very different. I kind of understand where they are trying to go, but they should give the end user the option to turn off the new "live tile" screen and go back to the standard window's interface. It is designed more for a touch interface, than a mouse point and click interface. The underside is still very much windows 7, even some apps in the control panel are labeled windows 7. From a corporate business standpoint, we will be skipping windows 8 and will continue to use windows 7. There is no added benefit to this OS and agreed that the learning curve would be just too much for our end users to handle. I'm sure with enough backlash, they will offer an option to go back to the standard interface.
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10-26-2012, 01:06 PM #8Registered User
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Sure, you can always re-install just like with any OS already installed. You should get a windows 8 disk with the PC so that if you want you can install Ubuntu on 1 partition and windows on another.Originally Posted by Phattso
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10-26-2012, 01:07 PM #9I'm not that bright
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Originally Posted by djlogik
Maybe they should call it Windows Ain't instead.
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10-26-2012, 02:47 PM #10Banned
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Yes, PCs, too.Originally Posted by Iceman1800
Thank you.Originally Posted by thepainter5
Agreed and thank you for the input. What do you do when you purchase new computers and Windows 8 is pre-installed? How do you maintain Windows 7, which I prefer, as well?Originally Posted by djlogik
Great. Thank you.Originally Posted by MrNismo
Probably shouldOriginally Posted by phikappa
Maybe they should call it Windows Ain't instead.
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10-26-2012, 02:51 PM #11sudo apt-get beer
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OS X >>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
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10-26-2012, 02:58 PM #12Banned
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Where might mere mortals find this OS X?Originally Posted by SP1966
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10-26-2012, 03:02 PM #13sudo apt-get beer
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Yeah, thats the downside, you cannot (easily) install it on any computer other then a Mac. On the other hand in my experience the Apple laptops I've owned have all been of significantly higher quality then any PC of any type that I've owned. I don't like where they are headed though, I can see in the not to distant future where they'll lock down the OS so that only software approved by, and sold through the app store is allowed. If that day should come I'll be moving on to Linux for sure.Originally Posted by Phattso
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10-26-2012, 03:04 PM #14Banned
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I am so sadOriginally Posted by SP1966
I don't use Macs.
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10-26-2012, 03:09 PM #15sudo apt-get beer
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Fixed! Stop being sad and buy a Mac! They are worth the premium over any PC any day!Originally Posted by Phattso
I am so sad I use a PC.I'm a sad little man
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10-26-2012, 03:13 PM #16Registered User
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To ask a really stupid question, what are the advantages of using Windows 8? Is it that much better than the '7' version? (Serious question from a computer halfwit).
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10-26-2012, 03:13 PM #17Banned
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Yeah, but too much money tied up in existing PCs. But, my first computer was a Mac and I loved it. Those were the days.Originally Posted by SP1966
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10-26-2012, 03:17 PM #18sudo apt-get beer
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Geez, its obviously 1 better then Windows 7. Duh!!Originally Posted by GuyJin
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10-26-2012, 03:24 PM #19
I hate the migration to the one-size-fits-all tablet-esque look that everyone is adopting be it Win8, OSX (yes, more tablet like by the version), or Ubuntu/Gnome 3. At least Win8 and Ubuntu preserve the same back end, which is handy for doing work and development unlike IOS v OSX. I'm really disappointed in the whole trend but I guess that's where the money is. I still use OSX (6.8) for daily work and I love it; quick, stable, and easy to maintain. I also like my Centos5 and 6 boxes as well. I'll take a fork in the eye before going back to Win, any version.
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10-26-2012, 03:27 PM #20not quite... domesticated
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I have experienced this with a few companies (insurance and others) who had questions about the suitability of 'significant upgrades'... this time being windows95... and will suggest to you what we did with them.Originally Posted by Phattso
Firstly, YES... windows 8 has a 'standard' operating mode... and it is not difficult to select. That would make step 1 easier...
What we did was 1) Setup ONE machine to test for proper integration of new2old... (and by old Im talking Novell 4 network!) and documented the issues found, and if they were problems with actual software operations OR problems with interfacing to Novell... Most all of the issues WE were able to adjust Windows95 to correct.
and 2) THEN upgrade ALL machines (one at a time) to 95 and ensure that they all were configured EXACTLY as the first... (finding some hardware incompatabilities along the way... they werent ALL 'exactly alike' as we found out)...
For those wanting to work with RT (the ARM-based version), only a few things like (most of) Office have already been ported to the processor, but I doubt there will be much lag-time for most of the popular programs...
I would definately look into it....
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10-26-2012, 03:33 PM #21not quite... domesticated
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OMG!!!Originally Posted by SP1966
A CHINK in the fanboy's armor!!!!
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10-26-2012, 03:36 PM #22sudo apt-get beer
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Get it right, SMonkey is the fanboy, I just like their computers after fighting with Windows systems for far to long!! I'll take an Android phone over an iPhone 7 days a week!!Originally Posted by justboo2u
OMG!!!
A CHINK in the fanboy's armor!!!!
Saint Steve (Jobs) Protect US!!!
As for Steve Jobs, what a jackazz he was!! You can not question his impact on this world though.I'm a sad little man
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Thanks, booOriginally Posted by justboo2u
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Oh... sorry.Originally Posted by SP1966
I on the other hand, would rather return to the abacus than buy an i-ANYTHING.
Well, perhaps not quite that far back... I'll just pull out my z80-CP/M-based Model 4p (a.k.a. Dinosaur) and my dot-matrix printer and be happy.
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10-26-2012, 04:00 PM #25The show goes on
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you can do that, but I dont remember howOriginally Posted by djlogik
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Likewise all points.Originally Posted by mslman71
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10-26-2012, 04:44 PM #27not quite... domesticated
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Actually Im surprised that it's taken so long... Touch-screen capability has been around for a LONG TIME... even on CRT displays... but then they were 'mouse' interfaced and required no major paradigm-shift... the only true reason it was delayed was a lack of 'utility' in everyday working...Originally Posted by mslman71
Then came the 'flat-face' phones... and now everybody thinks mice are for cats...
... but I still will not buy a 'computer' if it does not come with/work with a keyboard of some sort. I have 6 'tablets' now (in varying stages of operability
) and only recently found an onscreen kybd that I am willing to use consistently... but I'll still go for 'hardware' first.
I have had 8 running for a short time (no dual-boot) and look forward to seeing it on the Surface... might even buy one. I will even consider 'penquinizing' my W7 laptop at that point... but will have to 'wait & see'...
Moreover, Im glad Microsoft 'kicked the OEMs in the pants' and built the Surface... as far as Im concerned, the PC makers have been dragging their collective feet for TOO long, and have no right to whine that MS did what theyve been avoiding. HP got a start, (and if w8 had already been available, might have been THE 'It' machine already), but should have 'kicked MS in the pants' to get them doing exactly what they did with Windows 8/RT...
... and I do agree... they dont have to ALL look the same, simply because you have to touch them to use them.
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10-26-2012, 06:42 PM #28The Cake Is A Lie!
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Isn't the joke that Windows releases are like Star Trek movies? (every other one sucks)
I think the default interface for Windows 8 looks hideous.
That's quite a big leap there. The Gatekeeper they added to the latest version of OS X can easily be configured to allow an unsigned program to run or to disable Gatekeeper completely. I'd be very skeptical they would lock out 3rd party applications completely with no workaround.Originally Posted by SP1966
Sweet! One less person in line in front of me to get the new shiny i-Things.Originally Posted by justboo2u
Oh... sorry.
I on the other hand, would rather return to the abacus than buy an i-ANYTHING.
Well, perhaps not quite that far back... I'll just pull out my z80-CP/M-based Model 4p (a.k.a. Dinosaur) and my dot-matrix printer and be happy.
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10-26-2012, 06:57 PM #29sudo apt-get beer
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I hope you're right, but we know its all about the money and if they lock it down they get 30% of every sale. Besides, if they keep trying to bring iOS features to OS X they may finally drive me away. Launch Pad and the new Notification Center are just useless IMO.Originally Posted by StressMonkey
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10-26-2012, 09:03 PM #30The Cake Is A Lie!
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Launch pad gets no use from me but I like the way reminders and iMessage work between my phone and my desktop.Originally Posted by SP1966
They got rid of the optical drive in the iMacs, which annoys me. I save a lot of money on music by buying used CD's.There will come a day when I tire of listening to 80's music. That day is not today.
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) and only recently found an onscreen kybd that I am willing to use consistently... but I'll still go for 'hardware' first.
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