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    Plateaued after only 4 months

    Haven't been able to get an extra rep each week for the past month. I took a deload for a week and nothing happened. I upped my calories and nothing happened. I changed my routine, nothing happened. My form is good, I eat enough to gain over 1lb a week, I get over 8 hours sleep every night, I feel absolutely great so I doubt it is a CNS issue. Anybody have ideas as to why I've plateaued so early and anything I can do to start making progress again?
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    It may be intensity or you may just not count your macros correctly. My guess is you may think you "upped" your calories. But you probaly weren't eating enough food in the first place.

    How many calories are you taking in and what are your macros?

    Also it may be your routine. What routine u on?
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    It may be intensity or you may just not count your macros correctly. My guess is you may think you "upped" your calories. But you probaly weren't eating enough food in the first place.

    How many calories are you taking in and what are your macros?

    Also it may be your routine. What routine u on?
    I don't lack intensity, seriously. My macros are 212p 352c and I don't have a clue about fat but I know it's a lot. My calories at the minute are 3455. The routine I'm currently doing is PHAT
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    I don't lack intensity, seriously. My macros are 212p 352c and I don't have a clue about fat but I know it's a lot. My calories at the minute are 3455. The routine I'm currently doing is PHAT
    Are you sure you are tracking your calories correctly?

    what are your lifts? bench press, squat, deadlift?
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    Are you sure you are tracking your calories correctly?

    what are your lifts? bench press, squat, deadlift?
    67kg bench for 5 reps( could probably do one or two more but I don't go to failure. I don't do proper deadlifts I do stifflegged so I can only manage 90kg for 9. 80kg squat for 5( neglected legs for awhile). I do count my calories correctly
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    Originally Posted by l2evolution View Post
    I smell a deload week
    Already took one
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    So like a 150lb bench, a 200lb squat, and a 220lb deadlift

    Not trying to be rude, but these lifts are not very good.

    Get rid of the PHAT program. You should not be doing PHAT with lifts like these. no offence.

    PHAT is an intermediate program. You are beginner.

    Your program:

    push/pull/leg/push/pull/leg/rest

    hit everything twice a week. check my workout log out. The url is in my signature. It has my exercises, etc in it. Check it out

    but ya thats ur problem
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    So like a 150lb bench, a 200lb squat, and a 220lb deadlift

    Not trying to be rude, but these lifts are not very good.

    Get rid of the PHAT program. You should not be doing PHAT with lifts like these. no offence.

    PHAT is an intermediate program. You are beginner.

    Your program:

    push/pull/leg/push/pull/leg/rest

    hit everything twice a week. check my workout log out. The url is in my signature. It has my exercises, etc in it. Check it out

    but ya thats ur problem
    I actually got suggested PHAT by Layne lol, I do it with slightly lower volume. Did a PPL for 2 or 3weeks and got no where
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    I actually got suggested PHAT by Layne lol, I do it with slightly lower volume. Did a PPL for 2 or 3weeks and got no where
    how can you do a program for 2-3 weeks and get no where?

    Thats your problem.

    Listen your lifts are awful my friend. Any single program should work for you.

    the problem is your calories.

    There is no way your lifts are that low and you can't progress.

    Name some of the foods you eat on a regular basis and a typical meal plan foryou
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    Do Starting Strength and eat a lot of food.

    Stay on SS until you hit at least a 225 bench for reps, a 315 squat for reps, and a 365 deadlift for reps.
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    how can you do a program for 2-3 weeks and get no where?

    Thats your problem.

    Listen your lifts are awful my friend. Any single program should work for you.

    the problem is your calories.

    There is no way your lifts are that low and you can't progress.

    Name some of the foods you eat on a regular basis and a typical meal plan foryou
    4 eggs
    130g oats with 250ml whole milk
    Protein shake
    300g of noodles with a protein shake
    2 chicken breasts and 120g of rice
    2 slices of bread with 2 tbs of peanut butter
    Protein shake
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    4 eggs
    130g oats with 250ml whole milk
    Protein shake
    300g of noodles with a protein shake
    2 chicken breasts and 120g of rice
    2 slices of bread with 2 tbs of peanut butter
    Protein shake
    Is that your whole day worth of food?
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    380calories-4eggs
    210cal-oatmeal and milk
    300cal- protein shake
    450cal- noodles
    400cal- chicken breast and rice
    400 cal- peanut butter
    300cal- protein shake

    total=2490 calories.

    Theres your problem. Your only carbs are 120g of rice,300g noodles, 2 slices of bread, 130g of oats. That is absolultey nothing for carbs. Your carbs are very,very low
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    Is that your whole day worth of food?
    Yes, each protein shake has 320 calories so I get 960 from them so it might not look like much food
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    Yes, each protein shake has 320 calories so I get 960 from them so it might not look like much food
    if thats your whole food, then you aren't getting anywhere near 3400 calories. Look at the above post. You are getting 2400 calories. And i was being nice with some of the counting.

    Your carbs are no where near where they should be.

    See its not lack of program, but lack of diet. Start eating, way, way more
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    380calories-4eggs
    210cal-oatmeal and milk
    300cal- protein shake
    450cal- noodles
    400cal- chicken breast and rice
    400 cal- peanut butter
    300cal- protein shake

    total=2490 calories.

    Theres your problem. Your only carbs are 120g of rice,300g noodles, 2 slices of bread, 130g of oats. That is absolultey nothing for carbs. Your carbs are very,very low
    My oats come up to over 500kcal lol, on the box it says 10g of oats equals 36kcal and 6 carbs. My rice comes up to 450kcal on its own. My chicken breasts are quite big and come up to 180kcal each
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    My oats come up to over 500kcal lol, on the box it says 10g of oats equals 36kcal and 6 carbs. My rice comes up to 450kcal on its own. My chicken breasts are quite big and come up to 180kcal each
    You do realize on the box its "dry" ingredients. You do realize that right. The minute you cook them it is totally different

    For me on my oatmeal it says 160cal for 30g of oatmeal.

    If you cook oatmeal you get:

    100g= 60calories.

    As for the rice. It says nearly the same thing when you cook it:

    100g for white rice is like 220calories. Thats white rice. so brown is way less.

    Unless you are eating these dry you are counting them inccorectly
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    You do realize on the box its "dry" ingredients. You do realize that right. The minute you cook them it is totally different

    For me on my oatmeal it says 160cal for 30g of oatmeal.

    If you cook oatmeal you get:

    100g= 60calories.

    As for the rice. It says nearly the same thing when you cook it:

    100g for white rice is like 220calories. Thats white rice. so brown is way less.

    Unless you are eating these dry you are counting them inccorectly
    It says cooked on mine
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    It says cooked on mine
    ??????

    On an oatmeal box it doesn't say cooked.

    All of those ingredients are dry my friend.
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336;984458383[b
    ]My oats come up to over 500kcal[/b]lol, on the box it says 10g of oats equals 36kcal and 6 carbs. My rice comes up to 450kcal on its own. My chicken breasts are quite big and come up to 180kcal each
    There is no way in phuck, that you can eat 500 calories worth of oats. Just curious how big of a bowl are you eating your oats in?

    I mean i am a pretty big guy. I take in around 5,000-6000 calories a day

    For me to eat 500 calories of oats would mean like 2 huge bowls of oatmeal. I highly doubt you are eating that much amount of oatmeal a day

    Again my guess is that its try. 500 calories on oats. thats a ton man

    Either way bump your calories up another 500 calories.

    *Also how much weight are you typically gaining a week?
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    There is no way in phuck, that you can eat 500 calories worth of oats. Just curious how big of a bowl are you eating your oats in?

    I mean i am a pretty big guy. I take in around 5,000-6000 calories a day

    For me to eat 500 calories of oats would mean like 2 huge bowls of oatmeal. I highly doubt you are eating that much amount of oatmeal a day

    Again my guess is that its try. 500 calories on oats. thats a ton man

    Either way bump your calories up another 500 calories.

    *Also how much weight are you typically gaining a week?
    I gain over a lb a week
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    You do realize on the box its "dry" ingredients. You do realize that right. The minute you cook them it is totally different

    For me on my oatmeal it says 160cal for 30g of oatmeal.

    If you cook oatmeal you get:

    100g= 60calories.

    As for the rice. It says nearly the same thing when you cook it:

    100g for white rice is like 220calories. Thats white rice. so brown is way less.

    Unless you are eating these dry you are counting them inccorectly
    You count the calories in the ingredients dry. Adding water or cooking will change the volume but not the total calories.

    go on a push pull legs. 4-12 reps upper body, 20-25 reps lower body.
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