18 Yr Old 244-208 Cutting Progress *PICS*

[Will390]

18 years old and 5`8,started lifting late november 2010.started cutting April 19,2012 AT 244LBS....As of now in early November,208lbs. Pics where just randomly taken as soon as i woke up cold.And i am a proud Intermittent fasting bitch lol


Questions:

1.Do i currently have/will i have a good base by the time i am done cutting?(which may be around 170-165lbs at minimum,then continue bulking)

2.Is there any sign of gyno that`ll require me having surgery?Personally do not like nipple area,not sure if by the time im done cutting,the fat on that area will be removed properly,as

3. Is by abdomen developed? I rarely never trained abs directly,they are usually stimulated from my compound movements,im not sure by the time im done cutting they will look decent.If they are not i may start weighted crunches behind head,as i prefer the bulkyish look rather than very flat one.Any advice and extra would help

4.Will i have any lose skin by the time im done cutting?

5. Is the progress going well and is my genetics horrible or decently good?Plan is to stop cutting by end of summer next year 2013,which may land me around 170-165,then bulk for winter,rinse and repeat.

6.Any major weak spots shown or any decent spots with the very little shown?

Anything extra will be appreciated.


Before





After




Close up to see if gyno.
random,lol

[Stuguy]

Big difference! keep up the good work.

[earthshieldlol]

Good progress, definitely have a solid base under there. Hard to tell if gyno or just big nipples (I think it's just big nips) because your arms are up in every picture.

[Will390]

Good progress, definitely have a solid base under there. Hard to tell if gyno or just big nipples (I think it's just big nips) because your arms are up in every picture.

Hoping its not but it may be,hoping its just my genetics causes me to store alot of fat in chest lol

[mnchld06]

Good job OP keep it up!

[VikingFit]

You are packing muscles man!! You seem to be quite gifted genetically - to gain both fat and muscle. Keep cutting - I think you will become really happy with results.

Your nipples may be a little large - but the fat on your pecs is retreating well - it will go away!

[matman1813]

Damn bro, you have a solid base. Especially considering you're only 18. Keep cutting man you're going to look awesome. That's assuming you have decent wheels and not chicken legs lol.

[Kezzyukbrah]

Dam good job so far keep up the cut bro

[Will390]

Thanks guys for replies,really appreciate it!

Damn bro, you have a solid base. Especially considering you're only 18. Keep cutting man you're going to look awesome. That's assuming you have decent wheels and not chicken legs lol.

I train my legs aswell lol

[OregonBBinc]

You are packing muscles man!! You seem to be quite gifted genetically - to gain both fat and muscle. Keep cutting - I think you will become really happy with results.

Your nipples may be a little large - but the fat on your pecs is retreating well - it will go away!

please tell me this isnt another back handed urban genetics compliment jezuz. how is anyone genetically gifted because they can put on muscle with a calorie surplus? lol. i know its a strange idea to the misc but.. thats why people bulk, put on some fat while you get big. all this lean bulk forever chit does not work for 90% of people. i would train abs directly, on a huge bulk myself right now and i just find abs a bish to do but its worth it and i make myself to resistance/weighted abs. dont worry about the loose skin. feel your nip, if theres no lump your fine, but it doesnt look like you have gyno its just fat. i really wouldnt drop lower then 175, your really on your last stages of fat, even if you havent noticed certain areas getting to where you want them your at the point where your problem areas will finally start to burn off. keep hitting your back hard and also improve your traps as its a beast looking muscle.
IF is a ridiculous concept imo, but whatever works for you.

[earthshieldlol]

please tell me this isnt another back handed urban genetics compliment jezuz. how is anyone genetically gifted because they can put on muscle with a calorie surplus? lol.

and why do you assume all black people are "urban"? gtfo with this foolishness.

[matman1813]

please tell me this isnt another back handed urban genetics compliment jezuz. how is anyone genetically gifted because they can put on muscle with a calorie surplus? lol. i know its a strange idea to the misc but.. thats why people bulk, put on some fat while you get big. all this lean bulk forever chit does not work for 90% of people. i would train abs directly, on a huge bulk myself right now and i just find abs a bish to do but its worth it and i make myself to resistance/weighted abs. dont worry about the loose skin. feel your nip, if theres no lump your fine, but it doesnt look like you have gyno its just fat. i really wouldnt drop lower then 175, your really on your last stages of fat, even if you havent noticed certain areas getting to where you want them your at the point where your problem areas will finally start to burn off. keep hitting your back hard and also improve your traps as its a beast looking muscle.
IF is a ridiculous concept imo, but whatever works for you.

Dude's 18 and has arms some people work 10 years to get. He has awesome genetics if you ask me, not sure how you managed to take that as an insult to 'urban' people, whatever that means.

[OregonBBinc]

and why do you assume all black people are "urban"? gtfo with this foolishness.

strong reading comprehension. i never said anything about him being a urban youth, i said please tell me thats not what your implying. due to the fact that an overwhelming amout of white miscers throw that phrase around like a bunch of cawk sucking none lifting *******s. gtfo with your white knight beta self, if he was offended he can tell me, but race doesnt phase me and besides jokes i dont treat anyone differently because of there skin. its 2012 stop with all this feminist racial sensitivity bs unless im actually saying something degrading.

[OregonBBinc]

Dude's 18 and has arms some people work 10 years to get. He has awesome genetics if you ask me, not sure how you managed to take that as an insult to 'urban' people, whatever that means.

lol no he doesnt have arms people work ten years to get. if your arms arnt just as big or bigger at your size then you just have chitty genetics. im not saying he has bad genetics so dont white knight me, im just being honest and giving an educated opinion. he actually might have good genetics, but without knowing how he trains, how long hes trained that way, specific goals then its hard to say. he certainly doesnt have small arms. but at 200 pounds to say he has arms people take ten years to get is laughable. and again i never insulted him, i love my black bros. and they love me because i dont sit there and craddle there nuts apologizing for what happened 100 years ago lol. if you havent heard the term black genetics thrown around you must not misc. and the term is ridiculous. if anything im being more racially sensitive by not liking the term because by saying its black genetics its taking away from peoples hard work they put in. but i realize the guy didnt specifically say that and i have no clue why all you white knights are causing such a fuss over an indirect comment.

[sharpieblet]

strong reading comprehension. i never said anything about him being a urban youth, i said please tell me thats not what your implying. due to the fact that an overwhelming amout of white miscers throw that phrase around like a bunch of cawk sucking none lifting *******s. gtfo with your white knight beta self, if he was offended he can tell me, but race doesnt phase me and besides jokes i dont treat anyone differently because of there skin. its 2012 stop with all this feminist racial sensitivity bs unless im actually saying something degrading.

no one implied any kind of racial slander until you stepped in so shut up now instead of digging a hole for yourself. all anyone said was that OP may have big nips, and that he appears to have good genetics.

what's the prob? tryin' to start some sorta interwebs race war?

[sharpieblet]

lol no he doesnt have arms people work ten years to get. if your arms arnt just as big or bigger at your size then you just have chitty genetics. im not saying he has bad genetics so dont white knight me, im just being honest and giving an educated opinion. he actually might have good genetics, but without knowing how he trains, how long hes trained that way, specific goals then its hard to say. he certainly doesnt have small arms. but at 200 pounds to say he has arms people take ten years to get is laughable. and again i never insulted him, i love my black bros. and they love me because i dont sit there and craddle there nuts apologizing for what happened 100 years ago lol. if you havent heard the term black genetics thrown around you must not misc. and the term is ridiculous.

***this isn't the Misc***

if anything im being more racially sensitive by not liking the term because by saying its black genetics its taking away from peoples hard work they put in.

***you say 'racially sensitive', i say you're provoking a racial fight for no reason.***

but i realize the guy didnt specifically say that and i have no clue why all you white knights are causing such a fuss over an indirect comment.

lastly...'White knight' ? lol gimme a break

[matman1813]

lol no he doesnt have arms people work ten years to get. if your arms arnt just as big or bigger at your size then you just have chitty genetics. im not saying he has bad genetics so dont white knight me, im just being honest and giving an educated opinion. he actually might have good genetics, but without knowing how he trains, how long hes trained that way, specific goals then its hard to say. he certainly doesnt have small arms. but at 200 pounds to say he has arms people take ten years to get is laughable. and again i never insulted him, i love my black bros. and they love me because i dont sit there and craddle there nuts apologizing for what happened 100 years ago lol. if you havent heard the term black genetics thrown around you must not misc. and the term is ridiculous. if anything im being more racially sensitive by not liking the term because by saying its black genetics its taking away from peoples hard work they put in. but i realize the guy didnt specifically say that and i have no clue why all you white knights are causing such a fuss over an indirect comment.

No you're right, I don't go to misc, with good reason. It's where people like you reside. White knight? What the phuck, man? Nobody is cradling anyone's nuts but that dude has good genetics (or, well, you know the alternative), fact. Telling me I have chitty genetics if I don't have arms that big. lol. I'm only as heavy as I am because I'm a fat ass, I've never done an extended period where I've stuck to lifting. I've been lifting on and off for a few years and I should have arms like that? You're on crack, son. For the record record I never have and never will apologise to any black person for what my ancestors may or may not have done. Because I have no control over that and I don't apologies for things I haven't done.

[VikingFit]

lol no he doesnt have arms people work ten years to get. if your arms arnt just as big or bigger at your size then you just have chitty genetics. im not saying he has bad genetics so dont white knight me, im just being honest and giving an educated opinion. he actually might have good genetics, but without knowing how he trains, how long hes trained that way, specific goals then its hard to say. he certainly doesnt have small arms. but at 200 pounds to say he has arms people take ten years to get is laughable. and again i never insulted him, i love my black bros. and they love me because i dont sit there and craddle there nuts apologizing for what happened 100 years ago lol. if you havent heard the term black genetics thrown around you must not misc. and the term is ridiculous. if anything im being more racially sensitive by not liking the term because by saying its black genetics its taking away from peoples hard work they put in. but i realize the guy didnt specifically say that and i have no clue why all you white knights are causing such a fuss over an indirect comment.

Some persons simply gain both fat and muscle easily. I am one of those persons myself. If I do not keep my diet in check - I will become a fattie. I was!

Rest assurred - I live in Europe and it did not even cross my mind once - what you are getting at here. I do not have a racial bias! Less than 1 percent of the people living here are - not caucasian - and people are not judged by their colour of skin.

English is not my first langauge? Am I missing something here?

[OregonBBinc]

Some persons simply gain both fat and muscle easily. I am one of those persons myself. If I do not keep my diet in check - I will become a fattie. I was!

Rest assurred - I live in Europe and it did not even cross my mind once - what you are getting at here. I do not have a racial bias! Less than 1 percent of the people living here are - not caucasian - and people are not judged by their colour of skin.

English is not my first langauge? Am I missing something here?

not missing anything, sorry for calling you out. i will leave this thread for everyone elses great advice so they can continue to ignore constructive criticism which op clearly asked for before everyone decided to suck on his nuts.

[sharpieblet]

not missing anything, sorry for calling you out. i will leave this thread for everyone elses great advice so they can continue to ignore constructive criticism which op clearly asked for before everyone decided to suck on his nuts.

enjoy some negs before you leave

[BradKemp]

Don't think its gyno brah.. just some big ass nips.

killer progress so far.

[Will390]

Thanks all for replies!


And for the record none of my ancestors was slaves in the usa nor shipped here lol..my parents werent even born in usa and was born in Nigeria,they willingly came here lol.Not forced

[Will390]

Have a question, contemplating on buying a 2 for 1 creatine deal thats available now to use when done cutting,you guys think its a good idea for me to get on for 6months while bulking?

Supp is Creature by beast sports nutrition

[dmacdonal9]

Have a question, contemplating on buying a 2 for 1 creatine deal thats available now to use when done cutting,you guys think its a good idea for me to get on for 6months while bulking?

Supp is Creature by beast sports nutrition

Yep, it's a good idea all the time, cutting or bulking, 5g per day.

[Will390]

Alright thanks may buy and use when bulking,


Anyone knows a good weight that ill look very good at?I plan on cutting till 172 for striations ontop of striations hopefully

[Bradcore]

Dude, you're doing an awesome job. Keep it up.

[Will390]

Yep, it's a good idea all the time, cutting or bulking, 5g per day.

Since i have some chest fat and big black area near nipples,when i take creatine,would it make my chest seem more fatter due to water being saturated in the muscle and fats above the muscle?

Also since im cutting,howmany lbs should i expect to see go up in a months time from the creatine?(not loading thats why i i asked months time)

[dmacdonal9]

Since i have some chest fat and big black area near nipples,when i take creatine,would it make my chest seem more fatter due to water being saturated in the muscle and fats above the muscle?

Also since im cutting,howmany lbs should i expect to see go up in a months time from the creatine?(not loading thats why i i asked months time)

I don't think so, no. Subcutaneous water retention might do that, since it tends to mimic fat in appearance. Any water retention caused by creatine will be inside the muscles, which mimics bigger muscles in appearance, not fat.

I've no idea on numbers, I suspect it's very small.

[j00cey]

great progress brah keep it up!

[emaytee]

Great work man, keep it up.