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    Originally Posted by DerekEt View Post
    lol what the heck? is that really 10% bf, that means I'm 10% ...srs.

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    Originally Posted by DerekEt View Post
    lol what the heck? is that really 10% bf, that means I'm 10% ...srs.

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    Originally Posted by bogui94 View Post
    What do you think my bf% is from my avi?
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    haha myfitness pal is exactly what i use. but i dont exactly follow the macros they layout for me. I use it adjusted to what i need. and well i only have access to barbells at school for 20 minutes. 50 minutes if i skip lunch. i mean i go to college next year and can probably find a gym with barbells by then.
    but what program should i do?
    should i do BLSS or stronglifts 5x5? can you please point me in more right directions.
    i heard you have to gain strength before you can start training for size.. so when i have access to barbells. I should get stronger with a ss program and then start doing hypertrophy push pull legs routine again? Also how do you know when you are strong enough? what weight is the weight that isn't considered baby weight anymore? i bench 175 for 5 reps. and people are saying its still weak. so i really need to know more info on what is strong enough to move on
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    Originally Posted by jayfirered4 View Post
    haha myfitness pal is exactly what i use. but i dont exactly follow the macros they layout for me. I use it adjusted to what i need. and well i only have access to barbells at school for 20 minutes. 50 minutes if i skip lunch. i mean i go to college next year and can probably find a gym with barbells by then.
    but what program should i do?
    should i do BLSS stronglifts 5x5? can you please point me in more right directions.
    Yeah, no worries. That's how I use it as well haha

    Make do with what you have. You cannot run a strength program like BLSS with access to DBs only. You MUST have BBs. I would suggest something like and Upper/Lower for now. Instead of deadlifts, try DB SLDLs (or a variation thereof) and or hyperextensions, IMO. You can do DB RFE squats and DB lunges, as well. These are pretty decent, IMO.

    When you gain access to barbells, I would recommend (if your strength is still low), that you do BLSS with some well placed accessory work.
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    can you reread my previous post. i edited it. are my weaks still considered weak?

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    also if im doing a strength program should i stil be doing a bulking diet or should i just do the add 10_20 percent of calories over maintenance as said in the calorie page you replied me to

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    Originally Posted by jayfirered4 View Post
    can you reread my previous post. i edited it. are my weaks still considered weak?
    Building a strength foundation is, IMO, imperative for future lifting. If you weigh 151lbs and you're benching 175 for reps, that's not too bad. Could be better, though. Good starting point, IMO. Your squat and pulls would be pretty low, I'm guessing because you're unable to train these lifts.

    The definition of 'strong' is pretty subjective, IMO. As a rough guide, I tend to suggest a 2 plate bench, 3 plate squat and 4 plate deadlift (all are 1RMs). You CAN gain size using a strength program. With some well placed accessory work as well after the core lifts, you can also build a pretty decent physique IMO, provided diet, training and rest are all in check over an extended period of time. Yes, you could run an Upper/Lower or Push/Pull/Legs after BLSS if you wanted to. Madcows is another option (strength program for intermediate lifters).

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    so my bmr is 1850 calories. I should eat 2300 calories? while doing an ss program or if im bulking. what diet plan should be used if doing starting strength routine. I might just do it at school and skip lunch and sneak my meal in during classs.
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    barbell rows 150 for 3 sets of 8. I never went more because i just you know i dont have access much to barbells.
    thanks for the advice though. seriously. and personally when did you decide to get off of a ss program?

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    I'm currently lifting 5 days a week, and eating very healthy 2500 calories a day along with probably more than enough protein (about 200g per day), I am forced to run about 4-6 miles per week (air force pt) other than that no cardio. Right now im sitting at 147 lbs and (I believe) about 12-13% body fat. Is it realistic to try to get to 160 lbs before christmas without gaining more than 2% body fat?

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    What is the meaning of 50% 10RM?

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    Is there any general guideline on expected rate of increase of squat, deads, or bench, assuming the lifter gets plenty of protein and sleep? I know it may also depend on intensity, etc...but I need to make sure my goals are in a good area for the time frame (see august goals in sig)
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    Originally Posted by jayfirered4 View Post
    so my bmr is 1850 calories. I should eat 2300 calories? while doing an ss program or if im bulking. what diet plan should be used if doing starting strength routine. I might just do it at school and skip lunch and sneak my meal in during classs.
    lifts are
    squat 205
    barbell rows 150 for 3 sets of 8. I never went more because i just you know i dont have access much to barbells.
    thanks for the advice though. seriously. and personally when did you decide to get off of a ss program?
    If your BMR is 1850 calories then you should be gaining weight on 2300 calories; yes. Meal timing is essentially irrelevant in terms of its effects upon body composition. You don't have to eat 6+ meals per day or every 2-3 hours, especially if it doesn't fit your schedule. If It Fits Your Macros (IIFYM), eat it (essentially). This does not give you a green light to consume chocolate bars and ice cream as staple sources for carbs and fats. You can eat these foods provided they fit your macros for that day, just don't rely on them as a sole source of nutrition.

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    I'm currently lifting 5 days a week, and eating very healthy 2500 calories a day along with probably more than enough protein (about 200g per day), I am forced to run about 4-6 miles per week (air force pt) other than that no cardio. Right now im sitting at 147 lbs and (I believe) about 12-13% body fat. Is it realistic to try to get to 160 lbs before christmas without gaining more than 2% body fat?
    Too many factors to take into account to say with any degree of certainty. I do not think it'd be a good idea to try and put on 13 pounds in a 1 month period of time. I generally recommend that people gain 1 pound per week; maybe 1.5 pounds as a maximum. IMO, aim a tad lower OR give yourself a longer time frame. My 2 cents. If you're relatively lean currently, try bulking and cutting in mini cycles i.e. bulk for 6-8 weeks at 1 pound per week, then cut for 2 weeks at 1 pound per week; rinse and repeat. Usually helps to keep you somewhat lean year round, IMO.

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    What is the meaning of 50% 10RM?
    It's 50% of your 10 rep max. So for example, if you can use 100kg for 10 reps, your 50% 10RM would be 50kg.

    Originally Posted by BamaBruce View Post
    Is there any general guideline on expected rate of increase of squat, deads, or bench, assuming the lifter gets plenty of protein and sleep? I know it may also depend on intensity, etc...but I need to make sure my goals are in a good area for the time frame (see august goals in sig)
    Certain programs may give you a template for what weight you should (theoretically) be lifting on a weekly basis and these are generally o.k., however there are a lot of different variables that can and do come into play that could hinder progression. Before uni exams, I was adding 5kg to my pulls for reps each week but due to exams, I had to stop lifting to focus on my studies. As such, my progression got screwed over lol.
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    If you gained that much weight (10-11lbs) in a month, about 4lb are fat in my estimation. Depending on how clean you ate and if you did cardio. Have you gained more fat in you midsection? Really you can estimate this yourself in a mirror .


    And for how much you will lose in a cut, that depends on how slowly and smartly you cut. Where you from? Because i know in Europe they use a "," instead of a "."
    Im from Finland lol. Ive gained some fat since the beginning. Abs are still visible if i flex
    ( Well the top 4 ) so i dont think im over 14% but idk if i should cut n go back abit .
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    ATM I'm bulking but also in pre-season for soccer which means I have do do a lot of endurance, speed and agility work.
    I'm doing Babylovers Starting Strength on monday morning, wednesday morning and friday morning and endurance, speed and agility work every weeknight for anywhere between 30 minutes - 60 minutes. Will this cardio affect my gains? If i make sure i replace the calories that were burned during the cardio plus sleep 8-10 hours a night does it matter how much cardio im doing?
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    Originally Posted by Gabrielk8 View Post
    ATM I'm bulking but also in pre-season for soccer which means I have do do a lot of endurance, speed and agility work.
    I'm doing Babylovers Starting Strength on monday morning, wednesday morning and friday morning and endurance, speed and agility work every weeknight for anywhere between 30 minutes - 60 minutes. Will this cardio affect my gains? If i make sure i replace the calories that were burned during the cardio plus sleep 8-10 hours a night does it matter how much cardio im doing?
    thanks in advanced
    If you're consuming enough calories and macros to make up for this cardio then you should be fine. I doubt it'd have any huge negative implications on your strength progression. Should be good to go, IMO.
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    Originally Posted by N4J4R View Post
    If you're consuming enough calories and macros to make up for this cardio then you should be fine. I doubt it'd have any huge negative implications on your strength progression. Should be good to go, IMO.
    thanks alot
    one more quick question
    someone said to me about a week or 2 ago that the training program im on (the one as described above) will tax my CNS too much and by the time my season starts i will be burned out. Do i need more rest in order to maximise size, strength, speed and fitness gains keeping in mind that i have saturday and sunday completely rest days (try to move as little as possible and sleep in till about 11am)

    again thanks in advanced

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    thanks alot
    one more quick question
    someone said to me about a week or 2 ago that the training program im on (the one as described above) will tax my CNS too much and by the time my season starts i will be burned out. Do i need more rest in order to maximise size, strength, speed and fitness gains keeping in mind that i have saturday and sunday completely rest days (try to move as little as possible and sleep in till about 11am)

    again thanks in advanced
    What weights are you currently moving? Since you're on BLSS, I'm guessing not all that much (no hate, just going off of what is typically the norm, here) as it's a beginner program. As such, I you'll be fine. Provided you're getting adequate rest and are eating well, you should be able to recover from training sessions pretty well. IMO, a lot of people worry about 'burning out their CNS' but in reality, this isn't as easy as most people claim. i.e. over training seems to be exaggerated a lot of the time, IMO. If you're still able to make consistent linear progression, you should be fine. If you find that your ability to recover from the lifting and soccer training's is hindered, maybe cut back a tad on the accessory work (guessing you're doing some since you're on BLSS). Additionally, consume a bit more calories/macros and ensure that the quality of your sleep is consistently good. Magnesium may assist with improving sleep quality. Quick reply on my behalf.

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    Originally Posted by N4J4R View Post
    What weights are you currently moving? Since you're on BLSS, I'm guessing not all that much (no hate, just going off of what is typically the norm, here) as it's a beginner program. As such, I you'll be fine. Provided you're getting adequate rest and are eating well, you should be able to recover from training sessions pretty well. IMO, a lot of people worry about 'burning out their CNS' but in reality, this isn't as easy as most people claim. i.e. over training seems to be exaggerated a lot of the time, IMO. If you're still able to make consistent linear progression, you should be fine. If you find that your ability to recover from the lifting and soccer training's is hindered, maybe cut back a tad on the accessory work (guessing you're doing some since you're on BLSS). Additionally, consume a bit more calories/macros and ensure that the quality of your sleep is consistently good. Magnesium may assist with improving sleep quality. Quick reply on my behalf.

    Hope this helps, mate!
    Thanks alot man, really helpful information.
    and yeah i only recentley started Babylovers so my lifts are still weak but imporving session by session. Current lift are
    bench press = 50kg, Squat = 75kg, Deadlift = 80kg, Military press = 22.5kg, rosw = 25kg

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    Originally Posted by Gabrielk8 View Post
    Thanks alot man, really helpful information.
    and yeah i only recentley started Babylovers so my lifts are still weak but imporving session by session. Current lift are
    bench press = 50kg, Squat = 75kg, Deadlift = 80kg, Military press = 22.5kg, rosw = 25kg
    Anytime mate. Happy to help

    Yeah, you should definitely be fine with this program. I don't see you burning out your CNS anytime soon, dude. Stick to it and milk it for all it's worth, IMO. Happy lifting!!
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    give me the layout for babylover's ss? i know its just like rippetoes but i want to see the difference and what everybody keeps talking about. The search button keeps saying "oops ! error plus< )" or something like that

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    give me the layout for babylover's ss? i know its just like rippetoes but i want to see the difference and what everybody keeps talking about. The search button keeps saying "oops ! error plus< )" or something like that
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    I have a question, Why does everyone go with the mainstream program and "follow the rules"?

    Arnold’s 2nd Key: Break the Rules
    We (you) must think outside the box. Arnold’s point is, don’t break the law but be sure to break the rules. What is the point, he asks of doing everything like everyone else? This obviously falls under Creativity but no doubt contains a little Character. That is, without the confidence to break the rules you won’t likely do it.
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    People seem to just do the same program others do and are you really gaining functionality and a balanced physique? Athletiscm? No arguement...just a question.

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    how many sets max can you do for a blss routine after you"ve done the core exercises? say after you do the squat bench and rows, how many isolation exercises can i do?

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    Originally Posted by 1ntensityrules View Post
    I have a question, Why does everyone go with the mainstream program and "follow the rules"?

    Arnold’s 2nd Key: Break the Rules
    We (you) must think outside the box. Arnold’s point is, don’t break the law but be sure to break the rules. What is the point, he asks of doing everything like everyone else? This obviously falls under Creativity but no doubt contains a little Character. That is, without the confidence to break the rules you won’t likely do it.
    (http://succcess.org/2012/01/arnolds-...-and-the-3-cs/)

    People seem to just do the same program others do and are you really gaining functionality and a balanced physique? Athletiscm? No arguement...just a question.
    This isn't a mainstream trend. It is simply buiding a strength base with a routine that has the potential to build significant amounts of strength and size. Babylovers routine is used by many new lifters because it is a good program. I personally feel that it's one of the best choices a new guy can make. If they follow the routine and don't screw it up, they can build a lot of strength. Mass gain will come provided you are eating correctly and getting enough rest. But these things take time, so you must be consistent. Any routine will give you results as long as you put 100% effort into it. There are other options for routines... Upper/lowers, 5x5s, Push/pulls, etc. I think any routine with elevated frequency is good for a beginner, as long as it doesn't put too much focus on volume. Volume is good, but beginners should worry about working that muscle one more time that week, as opposed to adding 5 more sets before leaving the gym.
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    I understand RollTide, but when people dissed my routine because it was not one of the "common" routines i thought about it. Some times you need to go out on a limb. I am going to change soon to a lower rep routine but you need to be flexible in lifting, meaning able to do BW, Run, real world strength. And the basic routines like 5x5 and what not do not provide all that. People sometimes seem closed-minded and follow the same routine because THEY got results. My routine is a solid one, and i stand by that belief. High reps scare some people away but i am aiming to be a versatile lifter. You are a good guy and did not diss outright and was polite about that. My concluding point is, people have different goals and/or different ways of achieving their goals.

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    At approximately do you guys think I weigh at 10-12% BF? (207lbs, 30% BF atm) There's probably a formula but I really have no idea on how to use it, an estimate on how much would be great. Thanks guys! And btw why 10-12% BF well I am just taking N4J4R's advice that I should cut until I reach 10-12% BF and start bulking...

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    Originally Posted by 1ntensityrules View Post
    I understand RollTide, but when people dissed my routine because it was not one of the "common" routines i thought about it. Some times you need to go out on a limb. I am going to change soon to a lower rep routine but you need to be flexible in lifting, meaning able to do BW, Run, real world strength. And the basic routines like 5x5 and what not do not provide all that. People sometimes seem closed-minded and follow the same routine because THEY got results. My routine is a solid one, and i stand by that belief. High reps scare some people away but i am aiming to be a versatile lifter. You are a good guy and did not diss outright and was polite about that. My concluding point is, people have different goals and/or different ways of achieving their goals.
    Ok, look... This might seem a little harsh and a bit disrespectful. I am not trying to be that way, just know that. There is no way to sugar coat it.

    There were a few things in your program that need some work. Like how you have some cardio work before lifting. That's never a good idea, unless you are using light cardio as part of your warmup. There were some conflicting exercises. Guys weren't dissing your routine because it's not one of the mainstream programs. I promise you that. They were dissing it (instead of offering helpful advice and tips about how to fix it) because they felt it was not a good program. They were simply talking trash about it because they are too lazy and don't want to fool around trying to modify it. Instead of offering advice and ideas to help you improve your program, they just recommended other routines. That is the easier option. It's easier to just throw routines out there, compared to compiling exercises and designing your routine. Just know that they weren't going against it because it's not a popular program.

    It looks like you are going for function as well as basic strength/mass. I give you props for that. There are a ton of guys who are only concerned with their appearance and couldn't care less about these things that matter. Strength is strength, in the long run. But there are many things that are neglected with most bodybuilding (and even powerlifting programs) routines. Things like explosiveness, strength-endurance, aerobic endurance, flexibilty, mobility, the list goes on... BW exercises do not have a big flexibility increase, but I could be wrong about that. BW exercise is primarily about muscular endurance. They allow you to use a specific weight and simply progress on reps. I would say that these do have a real world transfer. Btw, I am using the word functional to describe exercise that will have a carryover to real life. That might start some arguments, but I do feel that there is such thing as "real world" strength. I read an article on leanhybridmuscle.com several weeks ago about this. If you have max strength, but lack a good RFD, you won't be able to transfer that strength over in the best way. Keep in mind that this is coming from a relatively inexperienced lifter. I do have some time under the bar and on the field, but my views could change after several more years of this. Anyways, I would recommend you designing a routine kind of like the westside method. I'm not saying you should use max effort, rep effort, and dynamic effort... In westside, they have a GPP day. They will pull sleds, push wheel barrows, do box jumps, push ups, etc. I would recommend you working a day (or two at most) like that into your training. The reasoning for that is because it will take away from your lifting if you try to do GPP before workouts. If you would like to, you could do this kind of stuff after workouts. That is much better than doing it before. You should also be doing some dynamic stretching as warm ups. Hope this helps.

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    At approximately do you guys think I weigh at 10-12% BF? (207lbs, 30% BF atm) There's probably a formula but I really have no idea on how to use it, an estimate on how much would be great. Thanks guys! And btw why 10-12% BF well I am just taking N4J4R's advice that I should cut until I reach 10-12% BF and start bulking...
    Maybe like 160? Not sure. Let me get a piece of paper and work this out. Will report back.
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    I did not take that in a disrespectful way at all. The person who made my routine, is a guy in college who is studying Biomechanics and Kinesology. He also is, a cyclist and has preformed in track (pole vault) and finished top 20 in his first Iron man with 15 pros in the race. He has great stats, and can practically do any sport or event with his past training methods. This being said, he engineers my routines to meet by goals (strength, functionality, power, practically the basics of being a solid lifter and athlete.) My goal is to get strong, meaning at the bar where elite natty lifters are depending on their age and weight. I want you to know, i respect your opinion and greatly want to thank you for your polite input.

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    can i not get stronger doing 6-8 reps on compound exercises using dumbbells? i agree with 1ntesityrules. ive been lifting for about two years and messed up alot and still am learning now. My gym doe not carry barbells. I do care about my strength and size but who says i cant do it with dumbbells? tbh i am stuck on 75 db on each arm almost for 6 months bc i am recovering from puling my shoulder and because of family issue and the real world putting me away from proper dieting and training. i always felt that my push pull legs routine was thrown in the trash just bc i never did a SS.
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