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    I read something today about how overtraining can hinder your progress. Ive never paid much attention to the amount of hours that I train because I use to only workout 4 days a week. Now that I'm working out 6 days a week its got me wondering. Does anyone think spending roughly 12 hours a week in the gym is too much. My days look like this M/Thurs- Tri,chest,shoulders Tues/Fri- back,bi Wed/sat-Legs and on those 6 days I run 2 miles and do abs and only rest on sundays. Do you think this is two much. Take into account that I've played pretty much 3 sports my entire life from the time i was 5-18 and last year played college football. I've lifted on and off throughout high school and up until about a month ago i spent 7 months lifting hard. I've always been in good shape, always have had good endurance, and am a pretty athletic person not sure if all that plays a factor into wether or not I can train that much I know everybody's different and some can handle more than others.

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    Originally Posted by NealHalden View Post
    If I'm 16,5'11 and 165lbs,how much should I eat to bulk and how long should I bulk for?
    Look up a TDEE calculator on Google and plug your stuff in and you should bulk for as long as possible, until you think you have gotten too fat i wouldn't stop before at least 190 preferably 200+.
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    Originally Posted by ronalbak View Post
    Could sbd show me how to stretch?
    Because i dont do strectch, my knees, hips and shoulder.. have some little cracks when i walk. And sometimes i felt a little bit painful.
    And when can i stretch?
    I would honestly stretch before and after lifting before really helps me be warmed up.
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    Originally Posted by ThedrunkHorse View Post
    My weight didn't go up since 2 weeks ago (I'm clean bulking).
    Should I increase calories?
    Yes.
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    Originally Posted by ronalbak View Post
    I know this is an old question but still, i have to ask.

    Do we need to look the joints when doing Squat or Bench or....?
    Because some guys at my gym said that locking the joints is bad and can make injuries.
    Yes lockout each rep, unless doing bodybuilding then i would be about half a inch before lockout to keep tension on the muscles.
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    I can do all my routine till failure on each which is great, I am getting really pumped and sweating out like mad, but then give it an hour or so I could theoretically do more. I feel like I am not working hard enough regardless of the fact I'll go until failure and I'll be red and sweating!

    Is it normal to find an hour later I could do more? Or is it just a case of I've done the workout, I've gone till failure, I've caused the micro tears that will promote my growth and anything else will just cause damage?

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    Originally Posted by ScorpioJoe View Post
    I can do all my routine till failure on each which is great, I am getting really pumped and sweating out like mad, but then give it an hour or so I could theoretically do more. I feel like I am not working hard enough regardless of the fact I'll go until failure and I'll be red and sweating!

    Is it normal to find an hour later I could do more? Or is it just a case of I've done the workout, I've gone till failure, I've caused the micro tears that will promote my growth and anything else will just cause damage?
    Yeah a hour is a good amount of recovery. Why are you waiting a hour and lifting again though?

    If you want good gains get on a beginner routine like stronglifts 5x5 and eat in a caloric surplus.
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    Should i Do squats when i do leg presses? arent they training the same muscles in the same way just about?

    what angles are you hitting with squats that you dont hit with leg presses?
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    Is this a good workout program for a 15 year old looking to gain muscle mass?

    Workout #2
    Resistance Band Push Ups-4x6-8 (warm up with two sets of 5-10 reps of regular push ups. Rest anywhere from 30 seconds to minute and a half if not more...

    Resistance Band Squats-4x8-12 (rest 2 minutes in between sets)

    Lat Pulldown-4 sets of 8-12 reps

    Rear Delt Flyes-4 sets of 8-10 reps

    Resistance Band Good Mornings-4 sets of 8-12

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    Workout #2

    -Squats: 4 sets of 6-8

    -DB Bench Press-3 sets of 10-15 reps

    -Step Ups-3 sets of 10-12 reps

    -DB Rows-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    -Band Pull Aparts-4 sets of 8-12 reps

    -Natural Glute Ham Raises-2/3 sets of 5-8 reps

    -Renegade Rows-2-4 sets of 6-12 reps

    -Plank (do one set until you can't hold a proper position)





    Workout #3

    Push Ups-3 sets of max reps (leave several reps in tank on the 1st and 2nd set.. and go all out on last set)

    Row Variation-4 sets of 8-15 reps

    Hammer Curls -4 sets of 8-12 reps

    Triceps Pullback -4 sets of 8-12 reps

    Planks-2 sets of 40 seconds

    Blackburns - 2 sets, 1 min each

    Farmer Carries - For time

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    Originally Posted by CWGame View Post
    Yeah a hour is a good amount of recovery. Why are you waiting a hour and lifting again though?

    If you want good gains get on a beginner routine like stronglifts 5x5 and eat in a caloric surplus.
    Oh no I'm not lifting again after an hour, but I feel like I could which makes me feel like I did work enough!

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    Originally Posted by ScorpioJoe View Post
    Oh no I'm not lifting again after an hour, but I feel like I could which makes me feel like I did work enough!
    Increase the amounts of weight until you get the "PUMP" feeling in your muscle fibers
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    Originally Posted by ronalbak View Post
    Increase the amounts of weight until you get the "PUMP" feeling in your muscle fibers
    I do! My arms go red, swollen and veiny!! And yet even after going to failure after a while I feel I could go back and do more!

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    Do your arms ever get "hard" when not flexing?

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    Can an intermediate build solid amount of muscle by hitting the "main" muscle groups (chest/back/shoulders/legs) only twice a week?

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    Do you count the bar weight? Like say I put on 40kg of weights do I include the bar weight in it?

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    Originally Posted by BulkUpBB View Post
    Should i Do squats when i do leg presses? arent they training the same muscles in the same way just about?

    what angles are you hitting with squats that you dont hit with leg presses?
    A huge portion of it is the muscle stablization. You should be training leg press with squats. I'm not sure the exact differences though look up the muscles they each work and compare.
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    Originally Posted by BarkerBeef View Post
    Is this a good workout program for a 15 year old looking to gain muscle mass?

    Workout #2
    Resistance Band Push Ups-4x6-8 (warm up with two sets of 5-10 reps of regular push ups. Rest anywhere from 30 seconds to minute and a half if not more...

    Resistance Band Squats-4x8-12 (rest 2 minutes in between sets)

    Lat Pulldown-4 sets of 8-12 reps

    Rear Delt Flyes-4 sets of 8-10 reps

    Resistance Band Good Mornings-4 sets of 8-12

    Planks-2-3 sets of as much as possible






    Workout #2

    -Squats: 4 sets of 6-8

    -DB Bench Press-3 sets of 10-15 reps

    -Step Ups-3 sets of 10-12 reps

    -DB Rows-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    -Band Pull Aparts-4 sets of 8-12 reps

    -Natural Glute Ham Raises-2/3 sets of 5-8 reps

    -Renegade Rows-2-4 sets of 6-12 reps

    -Plank (do one set until you can't hold a proper position)





    Workout #3

    Push Ups-3 sets of max reps (leave several reps in tank on the 1st and 2nd set.. and go all out on last set)

    Row Variation-4 sets of 8-15 reps

    Hammer Curls -4 sets of 8-12 reps

    Triceps Pullback -4 sets of 8-12 reps

    Planks-2 sets of 40 seconds

    Blackburns - 2 sets, 1 min each

    Farmer Carries - For time
    Up to you but I don't like it at all I recommend getting on a good beginner strength routine like stronglifts 5x5.
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    Originally Posted by ScorpioJoe View Post
    I do! My arms go red, swollen and veiny!! And yet even after going to failure after a while I feel I could go back and do more!
    A pump isn't actually a good indicator of a good workout expecially if you are geared more towards strength.
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    Do your arms ever get "hard" when not flexing?
    They get harder but no they don't get like rocks when unflexed. Also has to do with how much body fat you have on your muscles.
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    Originally Posted by Edgardian89 View Post
    Can an intermediate build solid amount of muscle by hitting the "main" muscle groups (chest/back/shoulders/legs) only twice a week?
    Yes, 2-3x frequency is the best in my opinion how do you classify yourself as intermediate just wondering.
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    You know, I was sort of hesitant myself, there. I just didn't think "not newbie" would've been a good way to say it, ha ha.
    Glad to know 2 times a week can work.

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    Originally Posted by Edgardian89 View Post
    You know, I was sort of hesitant myself, there. I just didn't think "not newbie" would've been a good way to say it, ha ha.
    Glad to know 2 times a week can work.
    Haha alright sounds good bro, I just ask because a lot if people have a misconception of what intermediate is doesn't have to do with the amount of time you have been working out it has to do with the strength and size you are. So like 225bench 315 squat and 405 deadlift is usually a decent bench mark for a intermediate.

    Generally it goes:
    Untrained/novice <1 year
    Beginner 1-2years
    Intermediate 2-4 years
    Advanced 5+ years of good progress
    Elite 8-10+ years

    But you can't really judge off of time because some people waste time and can get the gains they get in 3 years in only one of hard training.
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    That's a much better way to look at it, yeah. From my point of view, I'm pretty much just looking at it from a non...bodybuilder (?) point of view. Although, I do see myself doing this for a long time, so.

    Are Leg Extensions bad for your knees? It's a fun excercise, and I love how it isolates the quads. Would hate to leave it. It's also probably my main leg excercise after SQUATS.

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    Hey,

    Would it be counter-productive to increasing size if I just keep a pair of dumbells by my bed and do 1 set of hammer curls and 2 sets of bicep/concentration curls (each set is 10 reps), in addition to weights 3 times a week an hour or so before I go to sleep?

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    will doing dips, push-ups, and chin/pull up regularly build me mass? Because i am feeling weaker and weaker although i squat and deadlift heavily. So iam thinking about adding extra bodyweight workout to gain more strenght
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    Hi Im new here and I probably have the stupidest question! (btw not sure if im posting this right)

    Im 19 years old 5'9 160 lbs around 12% bodyfat goal is 180 lbs at around the same bodyfat percentage.
    i Started lifting at school and then went on to lift a gym. When i started lifting at the gym i was introduced to the prework out C4 which does wonders(well it use to). So this is my problem in short. I managed to work my strength up for both upper and lower body and all of a sudden my upper body got weak and now my lower body got weak.

    When i first started lifting at the gym i didnt get any sleep, didnt eat well or drink much protein ;however, i did take C4. my bench started at 115 lbs and worked it to 225 lbs max, squats started at 135 and worked it to 225 lbs. leg press i started off with like 360 and worked it to 810. dead lift i started at 135 and maxed out one rep at 365. All this caused me to gain weight going from 138 lbs to 158 lbs. Keep in mind i did this under a year ,with little sleep, and a little bit of food.

    Here is my problem, one day all of a sudden i couldnt lift what i use to lift. i thought to myself just a bad week cause that happens but i came to realize with time that i was really struggling and just could lift anything much with my upper body. i changed my routine, lifted heavy, lifted light, got more rest, ate more, bought proteins, and so on. i couldnt get back to where i was. My upper body strength dropped to where i started basically and i have no idea why. Like i said i eat way more,rest way more and change my routines often with no success. I realised that C4 no longer did anything to me so i stopped taking it for 2 months and still nothing, tried another preworkout, tried redline and nothing.

    Just recently the same has happened to my lower body. My squats went down to 185 , leg press to 540 and deadlift to 275 (struggling). I have no idea what to do anymore, ive thought about taking testosterone but im too young and dont want to mess something up. like i said ive tried high calorie proteins and eating every opportunity i can. everyone says i eat alot. I was a much smaller guy, ive been small all my life and have always had a low self esteem. I used the gym to feel better about myself but now im started to freak out cause i just dont know what to do. im thinking of getting a doctors appointment but im sure hes gonna tell me im perfectly fine with. I worked so hard to be where i was and this is really getting to me.

    i would really appreciate if someone could give me some advice. To give me a possible reason why my numbers dropped so fast and out of no where even though ive been consistent with the gym. i dont have much of a social life so im usually always at the gym (yes ive tried resting more often and even not going for weeks at a time also). i dont drink or smoke either. this all happened like from one week to another and i thought it was just one of those weeks til a month passed and i just couldnt anymore. Is going to the doctor a good idea?

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    Originally Posted by littleguy95 View Post
    Hi Im new here and I probably have the stupidest question! (btw not sure if im posting this right)

    Im 19 years old 5'9 160 lbs around 12% bodyfat goal is 180 lbs at around the same bodyfat percentage.
    i Started lifting at school and then went on to lift a gym. When i started lifting at the gym i was introduced to the prework out C4 which does wonders(well it use to). So this is my problem in short. I managed to work my strength up for both upper and lower body and all of a sudden my upper body got weak and now my lower body got weak.

    When i first started lifting at the gym i didnt get any sleep, didnt eat well or drink much protein ;however, i did take C4. my bench started at 115 lbs and worked it to 225 lbs max, squats started at 135 and worked it to 225 lbs. leg press i started off with like 360 and worked it to 810. dead lift i started at 135 and maxed out one rep at 365. All this caused me to gain weight going from 138 lbs to 158 lbs. Keep in mind i did this under a year ,with little sleep, and a little bit of food.

    Here is my problem, one day all of a sudden i couldnt lift what i use to lift. i thought to myself just a bad week cause that happens but i came to realize with time that i was really struggling and just could lift anything much with my upper body. i changed my routine, lifted heavy, lifted light, got more rest, ate more, bought proteins, and so on. i couldnt get back to where i was. My upper body strength dropped to where i started basically and i have no idea why. Like i said i eat way more,rest way more and change my routines often with no success. I realised that C4 no longer did anything to me so i stopped taking it for 2 months and still nothing, tried another preworkout, tried redline and nothing.

    Just recently the same has happened to my lower body. My squats went down to 185 , leg press to 540 and deadlift to 275 (struggling). I have no idea what to do anymore, ive thought about taking testosterone but im too young and dont want to mess something up. like i said ive tried high calorie proteins and eating every opportunity i can. everyone says i eat alot. I was a much smaller guy, ive been small all my life and have always had a low self esteem. I used the gym to feel better about myself but now im started to freak out cause i just dont know what to do. im thinking of getting a doctors appointment but im sure hes gonna tell me im perfectly fine with. I worked so hard to be where i was and this is really getting to me.

    i would really appreciate if someone could give me some advice. To give me a possible reason why my numbers dropped so fast and out of no where even though ive been consistent with the gym. i dont have much of a social life so im usually always at the gym (yes ive tried resting more often and even not going for weeks at a time also). i dont drink or smoke either. this all happened like from one week to another and i thought it was just one of those weeks til a month passed and i just couldnt anymore. Is going to the doctor a good idea?
    so sorry buddy.
    I have no idea for what happened to you. Take a rest. 3 month for sure. In that rest time. You should relax, do body weight exercises, play sports....
    when you get back, lower the amount of weight to see if u are ready or not.

    After all, i think the best option is to see the doctor
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    Originally Posted by Edgardian89 View Post
    That's a much better way to look at it, yeah. From my point of view, I'm pretty much just looking at it from a non...bodybuilder (?) point of view. Although, I do see myself doing this for a long time, so.

    Are Leg Extensions bad for your knees? It's a fun excercise, and I love how it isolates the quads. Would hate to leave it. It's also probably my main leg excercise after SQUATS.
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    Originally Posted by SpookySkel View Post
    Hey,

    Would it be counter-productive to increasing size if I just keep a pair of dumbells by my bed and do 1 set of hammer curls and 2 sets of bicep/concentration curls (each set is 10 reps), in addition to weights 3 times a week an hour or so before I go to sleep?
    No that's fine I don't really see why its necessary though especially if you have access to weights 3 times a week.
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    Originally Posted by ronalbak View Post
    will doing dips, push-ups, and chin/pull up regularly build me mass? Because i am feeling weaker and weaker although i squat and deadlift heavily. So iam thinking about adding extra bodyweight workout to gain more strenght
    Adding mass highly has to do with nutrition. So if you are in a caloric surplus, yes doing those will add mass but in my eyes weights will better help doing that.
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