Israel's 'right to self-defense' - a tremendous propaganda victory
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features...emium-1.478913
By supporting Israel's offensive on Gaza, Western leaders have given the Israelis carte blanche to do what they're best at: Wallow in their sense of victimhood and ignore Palestinian suffering.
"One of Israel's tremendous propaganda victories is that it has been accepted as a victim of the Palestinians, both in the view of the Israeli public and that of Western leaders who hasten to speak of Israel's right to defend itself.
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The foreign and international development ministries in the West and in the United States knowingly collaborate with the mendacious representation of Israel as victim, if only because every week they receive reports from their representatives in the West Bank and Gaza Strip about yet another link of dispossession and oppression that Israel has added to the chain, or because their own taxpayers' money make up for some of the humanitarian disasters, large and small, inflicted by Israel.
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11-22-2012, 01:42 PM #1Rafidhi (رافضي)
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Israel's 'right to self-defense' - a tremendous propaganda victory
And David said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the Lord be with you." (1 Samuel 17:37)
Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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11-22-2012, 01:57 PM #2qUALITY POSTER
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So...
You're mad?
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11-22-2012, 01:58 PM #3Registered User
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I think it's safe to say that's an accurate description of his feelingsOriginally Posted by brighamw
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11-22-2012, 02:02 PM #4Rafidhi (رافضي)
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Yes.Originally Posted by brighamw
But this gentleman may be more mad.
And David said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the Lord be with you." (1 Samuel 17:37)
Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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11-22-2012, 02:03 PM #5Banned
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The reality to this matter is that the Palestinians are slowly and surely losing the battle of survival. The deaths of Palestinians is surely not enough to rid of them on their lands, often times ending in desperate attempts of suicide bombing and firing rockets at Israel which we know never really works in their favor. The Immigration and refugee camps on nearby Arab countries, i would imagine is the real goal and what would ultimately erase the palestinian identity.Originally Posted by TranceNRG
But let's be honest with ourselves, does western opinion really matter? It does, if you have Incompetent, coward Islamic leaders who speak of negatively of Israel then communicate on the back. I applaud Iran. Although, I have to admit I do not trust Iran leadership one bit. Regardless of the money tax American sends to Israel, this would not happen if Leaders in Saudi or the middle east in general agree to some extent to what Israel is doing although they market themselves otherwise.
There is no future for the Palestinians.
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That is outfukinrageous mate!Originally Posted by TranceNRG
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11-22-2012, 02:16 PM #7Banned
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Have you been to gaza?Originally Posted by brighamw
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11-22-2012, 02:20 PM #8
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11-22-2012, 02:23 PM #9Banned
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Are you 12?Originally Posted by MichaelLitoris
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11-22-2012, 02:24 PM #10i'll be 11 and a half next month, why?Originally Posted by Aguy2diefor
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11-22-2012, 02:27 PM #11sursum trahatur
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Originally Posted by MichaelLitoris
LMAO
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11-22-2012, 02:42 PM #12qUALITY POSTER
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No, I was going to go for the Holidays last year but got too busy with work...Originally Posted by Aguy2diefor
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11-22-2012, 02:59 PM #13No one can be trusted
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OP is not biased at all and describes Israels action from an objective point of view
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11-22-2012, 05:35 PM #14Registered User
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...Originally Posted by MichaelLitoris
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11-22-2012, 07:01 PM #15
The pro-Israel crowd is;
1. A Joke
2. Getting desperate
3. The most pathetic bunch of lying hypocrites the world has witnessed. Propaganda is their game and they are bathing in it thanks to the MSM.The art of DECEPTION - disinformation tips and tricks
1. Use a straw man
2. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule (kooks, right-wing, liberal, terrorists, conspiracy buffs, etc)
3. Hit and Run attack of your opponent (attack their position and then simply ignore)
4. Play Dumb (avoid discussing issues except any deny any credibility)
5. Ignore facts presented, demand impossible proofs
6. Become incredulous and indignant (Avoid discussing key issues and focus on side issues)
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11-22-2012, 07:09 PM #16Registered User
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They are both ridiculous. Why the **** did they get israel to begin with? Didn't have something to do with the area being essnetially under the control of the UK and it was almost an opportunist grab to stake claim to the land?
Tha being said, **** happens and it sucks, but the Palestinians allow their government to be run by office holding extremists who I have hard time believing desire any kind of peace.
Maybe if people start thinking with their brains and less with their Bible / Quran / Torah,we could actually get **** done."If the worst thing you ever do in your life is lose a fight than you lived a pretty good life.... " Useless Gomez
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11-22-2012, 08:30 PM #17Cold Hearted SOB
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Also tends to favor Assad......Originally Posted by Conspiracybrah
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11-22-2012, 08:40 PM #18Banned
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Isn't this the same guy that was going around to jews in aussie open markets and giving them **** then filming them flipping out on him?Originally Posted by TranceNRG
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11-22-2012, 08:41 PM #19Banned
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more or less. the u.k. enlisted the palestinians to help them remove the ottomans, then the jews cried to the u.k. to give them the land, and people can't figure out why the palestinians are pissed to no end about itOriginally Posted by PrettyPinkDonut
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11-22-2012, 08:42 PM #20Registered User
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Oh Israel, the victim...
Here's how it went for the last few days on here from the pro Israelis retards:
Israel has to defend itself, Israel has the right to defend itself, Israel must kill all Gaza to defend itself....
Some got so carried away that they started calling non Muslim members on here Muslim and even Jew... lmao
I surprisingly became an Arab immigrant in the UK.
and then some more: Israel has to defend itself...
Oh, yeah...forgot that: blurry pictures of underground launch pads. LOL
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11-22-2012, 08:43 PM #21Banned
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11-22-2012, 08:44 PM #22Registered User
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and funny how when the British didn't agree, some 'jews' decided to collaborate with the Nazis to fight the British in late 1940.Originally Posted by flairon
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11-22-2012, 08:46 PM #23Banned
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The british agreed. Hence the jewish state.Originally Posted by abdus
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11-22-2012, 09:00 PM #24Registered User
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Did you even read what I wrote?Originally Posted by flairon
When did the British agree to that in 1940?
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11-22-2012, 09:01 PM #25Registered User
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they agreed to that in 1917 retardOriginally Posted by abdus
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11-22-2012, 09:06 PM #26Registered User
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****ing hell....are you that thick? I ****ing specified 1940 you tool. And why did Lehi collaborate with the Nazi in 1940 to fight their common enemy i.e the British?Originally Posted by NYbrah
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11-22-2012, 09:08 PM #27Banned
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The british agreed BEFORE 1940. Your original statement was incorrect.Originally Posted by abdus
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11-22-2012, 09:11 PM #28Recomping
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Basically:Originally Posted by PrettyPinkDonut
After WWI, Britain got that area of land when Ottoman Empire collapsed. They promise the Jews living there their own country. Muslims living their freak out, so British create Jordan immediately and ban Jewish immigration to it. When the mandate is up, Britain give it to the UN. UN partitions the remaining land ~50/50 Jews/Arabs. The Jews accept the deal, the Arabs declare war, and attempt to exterminate the Jews. Arabs get their asses kicked, and Jews end up with far more land than they would have gotten under the original UN plan.
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11-22-2012, 09:14 PM #29Registered User
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bro u need to calm downOriginally Posted by abdus
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11-22-2012, 09:22 PM #30Registered User
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Balfour declaration was just a propaganda tool.Originally Posted by flairon
Anyway, why was Lehi collaborating with the Nazi and Fascist Italy? To fight what? If something was already agreed upon, why were they fighting against the British in 1940 until 1947/48?
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