I would say Sergio had it spot on, it's interesting to see the evolution of 40 years. (of course this image won't be to perfect scale)
It's quite clear that over time bodybuilder's have not improved chest and biceps to anywhere near the degree they have improved thighs, delts, back etc. They simply have made all the other bodyparts alot bigger which has lost them proportions. People could argue "They just improved the weaker points" Well actually, the reason those parts were smaller is because it looks good, that's exactly what proportions are.. to not look abnormal. If the judging had been better over the last 20 years we may be getting more Shawn Ray/Flex Wheeler/Shawn Rhoden type physique's and less Branch Warren's ruining perfect body's to become an ugly stump.
So what do you guys think is perfect proportions?
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11-30-2012, 04:21 AM #1anonymousGuest
What are the perfect proportions for a bodybuilder?
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11-30-2012, 04:23 AM #2Registered User
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tight waist, huge everything else
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11-30-2012, 04:29 AM #3Registered User
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The ideal USED to be arms, neck and calves the same size
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11-30-2012, 04:55 AM #4Registered User
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This + tall.Originally Posted by TTimmerman
Like this guy.
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11-30-2012, 04:56 AM #5Registered User
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Being proportionate is having no standout body parts, whether because they are under or overdeveloped. The ideal proportions is a physique having no standout body part and every single body part that it has is the greatest of all time.
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11-30-2012, 04:57 AM #6Registered User
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No. tall has nothing to do with it. Plus, he would also need a back.Originally Posted by Dantop
This + tall.
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11-30-2012, 05:17 AM #7Registered User
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You are confusing Paul Dillet with his back gap with Paul Dillet bone structure.
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11-30-2012, 05:21 AM #8Registered User
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You are confusing proportions with whatever you are talking about.
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11-30-2012, 05:25 AM #9Registered User
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It depends on the point of view. I don't think so.
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11-30-2012, 05:34 AM #10Abiad's Army
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We're not talking about structure. Proportions are muscle related. Dillet had horrible proportions.Originally Posted by Dantop
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11-30-2012, 05:34 AM #11Registered User
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I don't know if there are PERFECT proportions, but these two hall of famers are great examples of how a well-proportioned bodybuilder looks like:
"You can always do what you have set your mind to do if you don't allow Fear and Discouragement to stop you. People say that Faith is the absence of Fear. But I believe that Faith is the presence of Courage in the face of Fear and Failure".
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11-30-2012, 05:38 AM #12Registered User
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Perfect proportions is an utopia, like perfect symmetry.Originally Posted by BigDaddyCoolPR
Agree on the second disagree on the first. The level of disagreement will vary according to the year you pick.
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11-30-2012, 05:44 AM #13Registered User
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Kevin Levrone was always pretty well-proportioned whether he was 230 or close to 250lbs. Yeah, towards the end of his career his legs lagged behind his upper body, but for the most part, for most of his career, he was always regarded as a guy who got big but had good proportions and shape.
"You can always do what you have set your mind to do if you don't allow Fear and Discouragement to stop you. People say that Faith is the absence of Fear. But I believe that Faith is the presence of Courage in the face of Fear and Failure".
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11-30-2012, 05:44 AM #14Registered User
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I continue to disagree with you but every though is sacrosanct.
Dillet had awesome proportions.
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11-30-2012, 05:51 AM #15Registered User
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I'm not saying he had bad proportions but his issues put him in a lower category than Shawn who, to me, was almost flawless on that department.
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11-30-2012, 05:51 AM #16Abiad's Army
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His contest placings would suggest they were not.Originally Posted by Dantop
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"Being the best in your circle is not enough; you have to think bigger to become a champion. Don’t think like a small fish in a big pond or else when you get to the ocean you’ll be eaten alive." - Fouad Abiad
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11-30-2012, 05:53 AM #17Registered User
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Paul Dillett had very, VERY good proportions, but at some point in a contest you have to actually POSE and then at another point you have to turn around, and well...that did him in.
"You can always do what you have set your mind to do if you don't allow Fear and Discouragement to stop you. People say that Faith is the absence of Fear. But I believe that Faith is the presence of Courage in the face of Fear and Failure".
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11-30-2012, 06:07 AM #18Registered User
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I agree with Big Daddy. The main Dillet problem was posing. He was retarded, his front lat spread and front double biceps were comical.
If only he could pose like Levrone or Ray ...
This is a great proportion.
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11-30-2012, 06:08 AM #19Banned
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Perfectly symmetrical, with good flow.....this is very opinionated and most will choose the 60/70s guys. The alien s landed around the early 90s. Who would turn msot heads with epic proportions and have all shake their heads in disbelief....u know who im going to say, hes my favourite because he was the freakiest looking of them all. Dillett back was epic, maybe not for winning the greatest contests for bb but his back relaxed was epic, A tall guy(6ft1 not really tall) is not going to compete well with the shorter guys like a yates and Coleman who were both under 5ft 11.
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11-30-2012, 06:10 AM #20Banned
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Calves 22, arms 23, waist 30, 6ft1 and half, beats 5ft8 Sergio everyday of the phuckin year, its like comparing an African lion to a leopard. Stop with your classical bb appreciating bullchit.Originally Posted by Dantop
I agree with Big Daddy. The main Dillet problem was posing. He was retarded, his front lat spread and front double biceps were comical.
If only he could pose like Levrone or Ray ...
This is a great proportion.
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11-30-2012, 06:13 AM #21Registered User
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I want to point out to win an Olympia doesn't mean to have the best proportions or the more developed body.
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wow if only he spent effort into posing and taking his back training seriouslyOriginally Posted by Dantop
This + tall.
Like this guy.
he'd be one of the goats along with ronnie and dorian i would thinkCertified 9/10 aesthetics by RepWeekReviewer, the reviewer of the GOAT Dominoes pan pizza
http://i.imgur.com/HaXPpGl.png
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11-30-2012, 06:25 AM #23Registered User
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Exactly.
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My picks
Small waist, protruding shoulders, big chest... basically the 70s V-taper. Legs should be muscular but I must admit I prefer the look where the upper body slightly overpowers them.My recommended reading
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/ - great research review /w practical considerations!
http://www.biolayne.com.com/ - natural bodybuilder Layne Norton!
http:://www.bodyrecomposition.com - Lyle McDonald's site - tons of great articles!
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Proportions are muscular not structural. You can disagree but you are disagreeing with a fact. Obviously bone structure may affect how the muscle looks and is developed but the focus goes to the muscle itself.Originally Posted by Dantop
That might be a double-edge sword if we consider Dorian who had is fair share of proportion issues.Originally Posted by DavisForman
Paul dillet had bad proportions from the back and i don't care how alien he looks when relaxed (not the mandatory quarter turns, but just simply relaxed). From the front he had good proportions indeed. From the side every pic that comes to mind he was posing bad so i won't say anything there.Originally Posted by BigDaddyCoolPR
In that shot he has indeed good proportions imo, and im not talking bones.Originally Posted by Dantop
Who would turn more heads and who was freakier has nothing to do with proportions; symmetry is a different game; dillet back was not epic in the pro bodybuilding world and anything else is irrelevant to the discussion (every smaller underdeveloped body part of a pro is still freaky to pretty much everyone outside of pros and top amateurs). Thats like saying dorian wasn't going to compete well with shawn.Originally Posted by jld010
Sergio had a back :/Originally Posted by jld010
True.Originally Posted by Dantop
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Seriously? arnold?
Chest and biceps to big for his whole body. Lacking quads, shoulder and triceps in comparison. Also, big waist.
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His waist was little wide, but the vacuum and large ribcage made it look small. His triceps was nearly fine for his bis, but he lacked quads and shoulder like you said, hammies too..Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan
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By wide waist i don't mean bloated waist. I mean untwisted front on posing and in comparison to his fellow competitors. Nobody talks about arnold triceps, everybody talks about arnolds biceps...that should be a hint. "If you don't have it, don't show it" should be another hint on his mindset and on the fact that he barely showed his tris.Originally Posted by Riflemancho
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11-30-2012, 08:16 AM #29Abiad's Army
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Not at all, it's simply inconsistent judging.Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan
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11-30-2012, 08:17 AM #30
Some well proportioned bodybuilders:
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