Absolutely no studies, no science, none of that bullshit ITT
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11-12-2012, 09:15 AM #1
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11-12-2012, 09:27 AM #5
I'm not sure but mine usually go away after I piss. Your mileage may vary
To a certain extent, yes. However, the weight on the bar is just 1 variable that you can manipulate to cause tension. No one ever thinks about this but if one day you curl 65lbs for 3x10 with 60 seconds of rest in between sets, on your next workout you can curl the same 65lbs for 3x10, but this time take only 45 seconds rest between sets. This will have the same effect as say increasing the weight to 70lbs and doing 3x9 or w/e
Furthermore, there is a point in your lifting career where chasing strength gains to add more muscle becomes stupid or even counter-productive. If you are a bodybuilder who is benching 500lbs, you should probably find another way to grow your pecs than pushing for a 550lbs bench.
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11-12-2012, 09:28 AM #6
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11-12-2012, 09:37 AM #10
Since no one is posting, let me expand a little more on this.
Strength gains in the proper rep range with proper form (combined with adequate nutrition) will lead to muscle gains. However, people usually fuck up and sacrifice form and rep range in an effort to push the heaviest weights.
Let's say you are squatting 225x12 high bar + narrow stance, going all the down and getting very good quad stimulation from doing so. Then you come online and read about how strength gains are important, and you decide you should be using 315 instead of 225 because bigger weight=bigger muscles right?! So over the next few workouts, your 225x12 squat becomes 315 for 4 reps with a low bar position, wide stance, belt, knee wraps and only going to parallel. You don't feel anything in your quads anymore, mainly your lower back and glutes. But hey, you got a lot "stronger" right? You're lifting 315lbs now, that's a lot! Don't fall into this trap bros.
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11-12-2012, 09:40 AM #11
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11-12-2012, 09:47 AM #15
Cardio at all times IMO, 3 times a week minimum. Too many benefits (both health and physique-wise) to not do it.
Edit: If you have a fast metabolism and are worried about cardio burning too many calories, don't be. It makes you ****ing hungry and you end up eating more than enough to offset what you burned.
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11-12-2012, 09:49 AM #16
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11-12-2012, 10:01 AM #19
Natural bodybuilders have to lift heavier (relative to their own strength levels, of course) than enhanced guys to build muscle; I've literally seen guys at my gym with 18" and 19" arms never use more than 25lb dumbbells to train biceps. While I do think naturals have to train heavy and dip into the 4-6 rep ranges at times, I would never do a 1-3 rep maximum effort in squat, bench, or deadlift. Too much potential for injury. I would also never do a phase of strictly "strength training" ie 8 weeks of Sheiko like I see some natties doing, I think that's pretty stupid. Rather I would blend heavy work with "hypertrophy" stuff regularly into my training.
As I said above, I don't think you should ever be reducing ROM or using other specialized powerlifting techniques just to lift more weight. I also don't think you should ever take 5 minutes of rest between sets if you are training for bodybuilding.
But in short, yes.
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11-12-2012, 10:40 AM #26
Opinion on PH's? Or are we not allowed to discuss that either..
Also done a lot of reading and some implamenting of rest paused training and training with very slow negatives. How much emphasis would you say a bodybuilder should place on doing slow negatives? Seems for every study I find supporting it, a different one says **** it.Bench Press - 225x18 // 275x8 // 330x1
Squat - 385x7 // 445x1
Overhead Press - 135x20 // 225x1
Deadlift - 385x11
Bodyweight OHP for reps!
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11-12-2012, 10:48 AM #27
Can't talk about them but they are pretty weak by their very nature (they are chemically altered versions of the cell-techs that no one wanted) and the whole 4 on/4 off and PCT balonie is ridiculous. The only good one died on Aug 29, 2012.
I think controlling the negative is very important/underrated. I don't count to a specific number as I'm lowering the weight anymore, but I make sure to always go slow, control the weight, and stretch the muscle I am trying to work. I always lol @ idiots who drop the bar on themselves, they are essentially missing out on half of the tension they could be producing on every single rep (as well as setting themselves up for injury)
Rest-paused training the way Doggcrapp popularized is no good imo, but sometimes if I'm going for 12 reps and I fail after 9, I put the weight down, take a few deep breaths, and then get the other 3. I guess that's "rest-pausing" in a sense. <--- Usually only on arms or machine/isolation ****
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11-12-2012, 10:56 AM #28
Thats sort of what Ive been doing for rest pause as well, though clearly thats not the real DC way.
In my current routine I take my big mass builders (decline barbell, squat, front squat, rows sometimes) and I'll do 2 or 3 sets in the typical temp of just repping it as fast as I can with good form, and for the third of fourth set I lower the weight significantly and emphasize the hell out of the negatives. Is this beneficial or I should I be focusing on negatives for every set?Bench Press - 225x18 // 275x8 // 330x1
Squat - 385x7 // 445x1
Overhead Press - 135x20 // 225x1
Deadlift - 385x11
Bodyweight OHP for reps!
★★ Buddhist Crew★★
"How is it possible that a being with such sensitive jewels as the eyes, such enchanted musical instruments as the ears, and such fabulous arabesque of nerves as the brain can experience itself as anything less than a god?" - A.W.
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