2 month progress. Still fat.

[Barzona]

I really envy the guys who begin their muscle gaining journey thin. It's going to be quite a trip trying to bulk and lose the fat.

Curiosity, though, I do think I'm making some muscle gains, but my body weight (245) isn't changing. Here's my wishful thinking: is it that muscle is only really being created on me and fat is starting to be burned?

[rwsimbulan]

to be honest.. i dont see a change.
what does your routine look like? diet?
how much weight have you lost?

[Barzona]

to be honest.. i dont see a change.
what does your routine look like? diet?
how much weight have you lost?

The gains are not stark, but I can feel them. My strength has increased as well, but I've got to keep at it. We'll see what I can achieve in a few more months.

As I said, my body weight hasn't really changed. As far as my diet goes, it's high calorie and varied. Use lots of olive oil in my cooking (I hear it's full of good calories)

To be honest, if I knew a really good diet plan that would be perfect for my goals, I would follow it, but I'm still very new to this. It's all trial and error right now.

[TheBlackMiscer]

i can see the progress, i can see the strength too, great work man and remember its a marathon not a sprint

[KarmicEffects]

Curiosity, though, I do think I'm making some muscle gains, but my body weight (245) isn't changing. Here's my wishful thinking: is it that muscle is only really being created on me and fat is starting to be burned?

At your bodyweight/fram it's quite possible at this point in the game. Rule of thumb : If you are not cheating and lifts are steadily going up, but bodyweight is staying the same...that's good. You look like your chest tightened a little, stomach lost some fat, trap little bigger. What's your calorie intake at? That's really the only definitive factor you need to worry about at your point in fat loss goals.

[PHZA]

The gains are not stark, but I can feel them. My strength has increased as well, but I've got to keep at it. We'll see what I can achieve in a few more months.

As I said, my body weight hasn't really changed. As far as my diet goes, it's high calorie and varied. Use lots of olive oil in my cooking (I hear it's full of good calories)

To be honest, if I knew a really good diet plan that would be perfect for my goals, I would follow it, but I'm still very new to this. It's all trial and error right now.

I would just focus on cutting at the moment. Once you are lean just go on a smallish surplus go you don't get fat again.

[Barzona]

At your bodyweight/fram it's quite possible at this point in the game. Rule of thumb : If you are not cheating and lifts are steadily going up, but bodyweight is staying the same...that's good. You look like your chest tightened a little, stomach lost some fat, trap little bigger. What's your calorie intake at? That's really the only definitive factor you need to worry about at your point in fat loss goals.

I'm not sure what cheating is when it comes to bodybuilding. At the beginning I would just lift weights until I couldn't anymore. Now, I'm actually doing sets of 8-12. At the beginning I couldn't even do dips. Now, I can do sets of 8 or so at a time (at the beginning of a tricep/chest day). I'm still having trouble with chin-ups, though. I try to keep my motions, steady and not cheaty(like bouncing and stuff).

About the calories, I'm not really counting them. I should start, huh?

[Barzona]

I would just focus on cutting at the moment. Once you are lean just go on a smallish surplus go you don't get fat again.

You are probably completely right, but to be honest, I feel like I should focus on muscle gain in order to get the motivation to start actually losing weight. maybe bulking first and cutting later is a bad idea, but I'm a really bad self-motivator...sometimes.

[Aviasaf]

Starrt to run

[kgates0983]

I'm not sure what cheating is when it comes to bodybuilding. At the beginning I would just lift weights until I couldn't anymore. Now, I'm actually doing sets of 8-12. At the beginning I couldn't even do dips. Now, I can do sets of 8 or so at a time (at the beginning of a tricep/chest day). I'm still having trouble with chin-ups, though. I try to keep my motions, steady and not cheaty(like bouncing and stuff).

About the calories, I'm not really counting them. I should start, huh?

You don't necessarily have to count your calories, but you need to know your maintenance calorie intake that way you can be at the correct calorie deficit during your cut. Keep track of what you eat so you can ensure you are getting the correct amount of macronutrients for you. If you haven't read the stickies in the nutrition section I suggest you do.

[Malnourishment]

There's a reason people start bulking when they're thin. It's not very rewarding to not be able to see the muscle you've been working so hard to gain. My advice would be to lose at least 60 lbs first and then start bulking.

It's simple physics that if you are eating at a calorie deficit, which is the only way to lose fat, you won't have the resources to build muscle very successfully. Almost everyone loses strength and muscle when try to cut fat because of this basic rule, so if you want to be lean at the end of it all, why try to put on muscle now when you'll only lose it trying to lose that fat?

[maxstang]

When youre starting out from scratch its always good to ease into it. Ease into cardio, ease into diet. I was like you when I started my cutting process from 245. Its hard to stay motivated when the number on the scale doesnt move but you cant take giant leaps from what youre used to, to hardcore Mr.Olympia diets and exercise routines. Look into IF type of lifestyle, makes it easy to keep track of your calories. I wont go back to eating every two hours again. Also, if you cant run on the treadmill, start with the elliptical, but work you way up to it. I coulnt walk more than 5 mins without my legs killing me when I started. Now I run a mile for warmup and do HIIT for 25mins at the end of every workout. GL on your weight loss goals of 2013 brah.

[KarmicEffects]

I'm not sure what cheating is when it comes to bodybuilding. At the beginning I would just lift weights until I couldn't anymore. Now, I'm actually doing sets of 8-12. At the beginning I couldn't even do dips. Now, I can do sets of 8 or so at a time (at the beginning of a tricep/chest day). I'm still having trouble with chin-ups, though. I try to keep my motions, steady and not cheaty(like bouncing and stuff).

About the calories, I'm not really counting them. I should start, huh?

Meant cheating like ****ty form, not going full depth on squats and slowly raising higher above paralell as you add more weight, etc...ya, definitely start counting even if It's a good estimate (round up by 100s)' ....you might be shocked how much you actually take in....plus It's always good to get a grasp on your own BMR/RMR for the future to make it easier when you will need it a lot more.

[Rockja]

Your tits are getting more firm and smaller, traps seem to have grown?

[dsebrek1978]

I was in same situation like you...my metabolism needed aprox 3-4 months to speed up, although I was going 3 times per week to gym, started hard, specially with the legs and back ( biggest muscles ) it needed 4 months that kg starts to drop fast. First 3-4 I was always same kg which is also good, it means that your calorie usage is same as consumption.

Try to replace some of the food with more protein and less carbs, split this to 5-6 meals daily and drink lots of water, aprox 3-4 liter daily. What I did was every 3'rd or 4'th day I eat more than days before so that my organism dont get to use to the number of calories that I was taking. Started with 112 kg, at the moment I am on 107,9 kg ( and I wasnt in the gym for almost a month due to sickness of me and my wife )

strike harder on those weights, do not run from leg workouts, they can help you to lose weight a lot and increase cardio for 5 minutes.

But from the pictures you can see that you get some muscle, and probably in same time lose the same amount of fat. Just stick to it, you will do it!

cheers