Oklahoman does it Texas style

[HoneyBadger300]

thats something I forgot to touch on. ^^ you need to be about shoulder width or slightly wider. great point YO

Center of heels is always 18.5-19 inches apart, slightly wider than shoulder. I'll get a straight back, and straight side angle next time so you guys can get a better look.

I'm really appreciating all the advice, thanks guys.

(Hit 3 pages, what what! Almost feels like a real log now)

[arian11]

There is no set stance when it comes to squatting.
There is no set grip/hand width position when it comes to squatting.
There is no set toe angle when it comes to squatting.

Yes Mark Rippetoe has his ideas on those things but that isn't the only way to do it and it isn't the perfect set up for every person. I started out with about shoulder width stance, hands in as close as possible (touching my shoulders) and elbows down under the bar, and toes pointed about 11 and 1 on a clock. But I've messed with it through my squatting history. I've tried super wide, I've tried inside shoulder width, I've tried thumbless grip, I've tried thumb wrapped. I've come to the conclusion that I squat best when I'm alittle wider than shoulder width, toes pointed about 10 and 2 on a clock, hands just outside shoulders, and elbows pointed fairly down but not completely. That works for me but there are plenty of strong a$$ squatters who do it the complete opposite.

[yowhattapfatso]

I should have prefaced my post with "do whatever method feels the most comfortable" as I didn't want to come off as some diehard SS-Rip advocate.

[HoneyBadger300]

There is no set stance when it comes to squatting.
There is no set grip/hand width position when it comes to squatting.
There is no set toe angle when it comes to squatting.

Yes Mark Rippetoe has his ideas on those things but that isn't the only way to do it and it isn't the perfect set up for every person. I started out with about shoulder width stance, hands in as close as possible (touching my shoulders) and elbows down under the bar, and toes pointed about 11 and 1 on a clock. But I've messed with it through my squatting history. I've tried super wide, I've tried inside shoulder width, I've tried thumbless grip, I've tried thumb wrapped. I've come to the conclusion that I squat best when I'm alittle wider than shoulder width, toes pointed about 10 and 2 on a clock, hands just outside shoulders, and elbows pointed fairly down but not completely. That works for me but there are plenty of strong a$$ squatters who do it the complete opposite.

Thanks for being an outside voice. I like hearing different opinions instead of everyone saying "listen to this guy". I hope we can figure something out to where we can workout together. I'm already looking forward to you coaching me and helping me get everything set for my body to maximize my lifts while maintaining safety.

I should have prefaced my post with "do whatever method feels the most comfortable" as I didn't want to come off as some diehard SS-Rip advocate.

Yeah I kinda gathered that since we've been talking back and forth. You just noticed what I've been doing and saw what it's comparable to it, so gave advice to get me closer to that. I learned all of my lift form from the Rip's SS v2(may have been 3), back in January, so I've been trying to stick to that. I don't like my toes pointing so wide though because it just feels unstable and feels like it torques my knees. I prefer a more neutral angle, but with feet set wide enough apart that my body can (usually) get low enough.

[xRequiem]

looks like you've already got some great advice in here.

next time I would set the camera up lower. sit the camera on a bench.

[HoneyBadger300]

Yeah I hear ya, iphones don't stand on their own very well, so had my dad filming instead of spotting. I'll figure something out for next time, thanks for stopping by.

[arian11]

Don't worry, I use to be the guy that would hear one person's method and think that was the way and the only way to do it. But the more videos you see of other people squatting or read their logs you see there are a ton of ways to get strong. If you have time, check out this guy's youtube videos. He has a ton of raw squat compilations of the best squatters ever. You can see each has their own style of gripping the bar, elbow position, stance width, toe angle, and everything else.

[HoneyBadger300]

Holy crap! There's some big bubbas in that video. Well now I've got a 10 year goal, haha.

Thanks for the did, glad to see exactly what you keep saying, there's no "end all, be all" right way. Hopefully we can get together and find out what way is best for me.

[HighFivan]

Solid strength progression brother!

in (like flinn, obviously)

[HoneyBadger300]

Solid strength progression brother!

in (like flinn, obviously)

Thanks a lot, and for subbin.

[arian11]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/crea...-answered.html

Don't hate on my Creatine Monohydrate bro.

[HoneyBadger300]

So I've decided to swallow my pride and do a deload. I'm doing a 8-10% deload on squats, and a 15% deload on OHP so I can fix some form issues that are starting up. Based on the Madcow progression format, I'll be back up to 335 in 4 weeks which will give me a chance to fix some issues as well as get my Deadlift up.

Monday- squatting 310, benching 215, rowing 165, all x5. Pretty excited to get a break and squat the lighter weight for a change, may even do 2x5 depending on how I feel and how form is.

[HoneyBadger300]

Squat: 155/195/235/270
310 1x5 Depth was much better. Had my spotter stand to the side and tell me when I broke parallel. His timing was off so sometimes I'd be deep as hell (for me). The 1 set was enough, I'm sore as hell already.

Bench: 110/135/160/190
215 1x5 Rocked it. Hit a wall on the 5th rep but just kept driving, rotated my wrists, and finished up the rep. 220x3 on Friday. Can't wait for those 2 plates in a couple weeks!

Pendlay Row: 85/105/125/145
165 1x5 I'm really happy that I switched to the Pendlay row. Gains are coming easier and my progress is through the roof. 185 is my short term goal right now.

Over all an awesome workout. Just went through my logbook and saw that 165x5 Pendlay is a new PR, pretty exciting.

[burlyman619]

Very noble decision man. I watch myself in the mirror and I kind of register what below parallel feels like.

[HighFivan]

Very noble decision man. I watch myself in the mirror and I kind of register what below parallel feels like.

^This. Awesome job brother

It makes all the difference! I used to have a beeper, basically registered like a ****meter; you would tie it around mid thigh and once the ****meter hit parallel it would beep to let you know to press.


It. Was. A. Pain. In. The. ***.
In the long run, very happy I used it. Good habits take time to form!

[HoneyBadger300]

Very noble decision man. I watch myself in the mirror and I kind of register what below parallel feels like.

Yeah I've always done this. It was good practice to have my spotter reconfirm for me though, I guess I'd been gradually raising my squat as the weight got heavier, so deloading and resetting is exactly what I needed.

^This. Awesome job brother

It makes all the difference! I used to have a beeper, basically registered like a ****meter; you would tie it around mid thigh and once the ****meter hit parallel it would beep to let you know to press.


It. Was. A. Pain. In. The. ***.
In the long run, very happy I used it. Good habits take time to form!

That's a great idea, thanks for sharing! I might start doing that if I keep noticing a trend of raising my squat height. Time to look into a ****meter I guess.

[yowhattapfatso]

Squat: 155/195/235/270
310 1x5 Depth was much better. Had my spotter stand to the side and tell me when I broke parallel. His timing was off so sometimes I'd be deep as hell (for me). The 1 set was enough, I'm sore as hell already.

Bench: 110/135/160/190
215 1x5 Rocked it. Hit a wall on the 5th rep but just kept driving, rotated my wrists, and finished up the rep. 220x3 on Friday. Can't wait for those 2 plates in a couple weeks!

Pendlay Row: 85/105/125/145
165 1x5 I'm really happy that I switched to the Pendlay row. Gains are coming easier and my progress is through the roof. 185 is my short term goal right now.

Over all an awesome workout. Just went through my logbook and saw that 165x5 Pendlay is a new PR, pretty exciting.

Nice workout and congrats on the PR!

[HoneyBadger300]

Nice workout and congrats on the PR!

Thanks a lot Yo. Grip training tonight, rock climbing for a couple hours with one of my buddies. It's my Tuesday Thursday thing. Anyone struggling with grip strength... rock climbing is a fun way to fix the problem. 3 months ago my grip failed on the 4th rep of pulling 315 Deadlift. Started rock climbing/bouldering for 2 hours every Tuesday and Thursday, now pulling 350x5 dead with no grip problems. I can't wait until my legs are ready to pull more though.

[burlyman619]

I am leaving this base tomorrow, and I found out they have a rock wall, its like 50ft tall here last week. fuark!



Whats the biggest wall yourve climbed, no homo

[HoneyBadger300]

I am leaving this base tomorrow, and I found out they have a rock wall, its like 50ft tall here last week. fuark!



Whats the biggest wall yourve climbed, no homo

There's a 40 ft'er where I climb. We rarely climb up it though. The wall is shaped like an oval so we make bouldering routes all the way around it and see who can do the most routes/go around the most times without falling. At most we're like 4 feet off the ground but it's an intense workout. Best forearm burn I've ever felt.

Also, what base? I see you're in the 619, so I'm assuming Coronado or 32nd St. I was on Coronado/Silver Strand for a few weeks during my Ricky-tick training.

[HoneyBadger300]

Light Day

Squat: 155/195
235 2x5 Rocked it, good form, good depth.

OHP: 80/100/115
130 1x4 Changed from seated crappy depth, to standing collarbone depth. Felt awesome in a painful way.

Deadlift: 195/245/300
350x0 | 315x0 Failed 350, so lightened it up to 315. Failed at that too.

(Ignore the **** that used to be here)

Also tweaked my shoulder/anterior delt while doing squats last Friday. Just RICE it? (Recon Induced Clitoral Edema, aka, being a bitch) I'm taking Friday off so I can start Kris Gethin on Monday.

[arian11]

Comments on a Madcows log telling them to deload and stick to the program.
Quits on Madcows.

Strong hypocrisy brah

[HoneyBadger300]

Comments on a Madcows log telling them to deload and stick to the program.
Quits on Madcows.

Strong hypocrisy brah

Chalk it up to "thinking out loud"

[arian11]

Rofl, isn't that human nature? It's time for a change, I've been doing variations of 5x5 for a year. I feel that I need cardio, and I'm to the point where my body cannot do anything more than 5 reps. I need a system shock.

Plus he was on like week 2.

Lol, you start doing cardio and I can guarantee your lifts will start going down and you'll be even more disappointed.

[xRequiem]

unsubbing

[HoneyBadger300]

Lol, you start doing cardio and I can guarantee your lifts will start going down and you'll be even more disappointed.

So I should just continue training in the way I always have and continue to further my my lack of muscular endurance?

edit: Yup.

unsubbing

Sorry to hear that, I'll let you know what I end up doing.

edit: You don't have to.

[arian11]

So I should just continue training in the way I always have and continue to further my my lack of muscular endurance?



Sorry to hear that, I'll let you know what I end up doing.

I didn't say don't do cardio and I didn't say cardio makes you weak. I said if you start doing cardio your numbers will start going down so be prepared for it. Obviously your body will adapt and gain the strength back depending on how much cardio you are doing. Just don't want you to be disappointed brah.

[HoneyBadger300]

I didn't say don't do cardio and I didn't say cardio makes you weak. I said if you start doing cardio your numbers will start going down so be prepared for it. Obviously your body will adapt and gain the strength back depending on how much cardio you are doing. Just don't want you to be disappointed brah.

You mother phucker. Talking me back in to Madcow... Well I guess that's why I have this log anyway, so someone can keep me going forward when I'm about to screw myself over.

[arian11]

You should cave in, pay the $25 for Symmetry and come train with me.

[burlyman619]

Youre saying cardio makes your strength decrease? Or are you saying if you do cardio, you'll be in a caloric deficit, so THEN your numbers will go down?