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    Thumbs down Rove: Obama won 'by suppressing the vote'

    GOP strategist Karl Rove went on Fox News today to argue that President Barack Obama "succeeded by suppressing the vote" -- an argument that directly contradicts the conventional wisdom that Romney failed to appeal to non-white and female voters.

    Rove argued that Obama won with a smaller popular vote and a smaller margin of victory than in the 2008 election against Sen. John McCain. Instead of expanding voters, Rove argued, Obama "suppressed the vote" by demonizing former Gov. Mitt Romney and encouraging people not to vote.

    "President Obama has become the first president in history to win a second term with a smaller percentage of the vote than he did in the first term," Rove said.

    "But he won Karl, he won!" Fox News host Megyn Kelly interjected. Kelly also asked Rove how Republicans intended to appeal to minority groups, especially Hispanics, after doing so much to alienate them in 2012. Rove pointed to Hispanic-voter turnout in Texas to argue that there was no fundamental disconnect between his party and Latino voters.

    As many pundits and strategists have pointed out, the Obama campaign succeeded in large part because it appealed to -- and registered -- non-white voters, expanding (rather than suppressing) the vote in key battleground states.

    In a subsequent segment, Kelly would cite "demographics" and a "racial divide in the voting booth" that "raised questions" about whether the GOP needed to do more to reach Latinos and African-Americans. "Why can't the Republicans do better with people of color?" she asked her guests.

    Rove's appearance on Fox News follows the now-infamous moment from election night when he argued with Kelly and co-host Bret Baier over the network's decision to call Ohio for the president.

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    Dealing with reality is very tough for these conservitards. Give em time op
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    Rove is a moron and complete piece of ****

    The GOP would be wise to separate his name from their party
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    That's one way to splain away the $400 million he pissed away up and down the ticket
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    Originally Posted by NickA44 View Post
    Rove is a moron and complete piece of ****

    The GOP would be wise to separate his name from their party
    This. Limited government advocates do not need a piece of scum like Karl Rove being the face of their brand. Replace him w/ Ron Paul and we're off to a damn good start.
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    The retard wing of the Republicans (that seems to be dominating right now) lives in a bubble. Just let them.
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    Let's see, alienate the following

    Blacks

    Hispanics

    Gays

    Working class

    Middle class

    The poor

    People who care about the enviroment

    And then act suprised when no one votes for you

    GOP logic!!!
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    Based on the lefts idea of "suppressing the vote", I'd say something as petty as this qualifies. What's the problem here??
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    Rove is a loathsome ****
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    Suppress doesn't necessarily mean that something underhanded took place.

    If one can win with less support (than in previous elections) by demonizing your opponent then so be it.
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    Originally Posted by Carpig View Post
    Suppress doesn't necessarily mean that something underhanded took place.

    If one can win with less support (than in previous elections) by demonizing your opponent then so be it.
    This,

    The left will start scream about voter suppression at the drop of a hat. If having to show an ID qualifies as suppression, then this certainly could as well.

    Al Sharpton has old black people on his show all the time that are complaining about voter suppression if a Republican looks at them wrong.
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    Somewhere, John Kerry is smiling.

    Rove is an overrated clown.
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    If Rove wants to blame anybody for suppressing the vote, he should look in a mirror, and at other establishment status quo Republicans. They successfully suppressed their own Republican vote by doing everything they could to ensure the nomination of a big government flip flopping liberal phaggot like Mitt Romney.
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    Originally Posted by FawkinJuicy View Post
    If Rove wants to blame anybody for suppressing the vote, he should look in a mirror, and at other establishment status quo Republicans. They successfully suppressed their own Republican vote by doing everything they could to ensure the nomination of a big government flip flopping liberal phaggot like Mitt Romney.
    Who?? And gtfo if you say Ron Paul.

    Nothing was wrong with Romney, anyone would have been fighting an uphill battle.
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    Romney couldn't even motivate enough of his own base to vote for him. He was a chit candidate. The John Kerry of 2012.
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    Rove is an idiot. Hopefully his poor performance in this election will make him irrelevant in the future.
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    Romney couldn't even motivate enough of his own base to vote for him. He was a chit candidate. The John Kerry of 2012.
    Yup. A few days before the election I was saying on here "when Obama barely beats Romney, it should send a message that the American people don't like much of what Obama's doing. Barely beating Romney should tell Obama we're watching him."

    Obama had a better grassroots level team doing an impressive job of getting individuals to vote.
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    Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler View Post
    Rove is an idiot. Hopefully his poor performance in this election will make him irrelevant in the future.
    No more than anyone who claims that requiring and ID is voter suppression.
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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    Who?? And gtfo if you say Ron Paul.

    Nothing was wrong with Romney, anyone would have been fighting an uphill battle.
    You have got to be kidding me, Obama has one of the weakest records as an incumbent in history. This election should have been a landslide, but the Republicans royally screwed it up.
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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    No more than anyone who claims that requiring and ID is voter suppression.
    How does that have anything to do with my statement?
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    Originally Posted by FawkinJuicy View Post
    If Rove wants to blame anybody for suppressing the vote, he should look in a mirror, and at other establishment status quo Republicans. They successfully suppressed their own Republican vote by doing everything they could to ensure the nomination of a big government flip flopping liberal phaggot like Mitt Romney.
    lol Rove has some balls calling vote fraud after stealing Ohio in 2004, which swung the election, and maybe being behind Mike Connell's unfortunate small plane crash just before he was to testify in Ohio v. Kenneth Balckwell vote-stealing case. Connell's own sister now believes it was foul play.

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    Michael Louis Connell (November 30, 1963 – December 19, 2008) was a high-level Republican consultant who was subpoenaed in a case regarding alleged tampering with the 2004 U.S. Presidential election and a case involving thousands of missing emails pertaining to the political firing of U.S. Attorneys. Connell was killed when the plane he was flying crashed on December 19, 2008.

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    In July 2008, the lead attorney in the King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association v. Blackwell case, Cliff Arnebeck, sent a letter [3] to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey seeking protection for Connell as a witness in the case, saying he had been threatened. Arnebeck wrote, “We have been confidentially informed by a source we believe to be credible that Karl Rove has threatened Michael Connell, a principal witness we have identified in our King Lincoln case in federal court in Columbus, Ohio, that if he does not agree to 'take the fall' for election fraud in Ohio, his wife Heather will be prosecuted for supposed lobby law violations." [4] Arnebeck claims that months later, his source called back and warned that Connell's life was in danger.[5]

    He was served with a subpoena in Ohio on September 22, 2008,[6] in a case alleging that vote-tampering during the 2004 presidential election resulted in civil rights violations. Connell, president of GovTech Solutions and New Media Communications, was a website designer and IT professional and created a website for Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell that presented the results of the 2004 election in real time as they were tabulated. At the time, Blackwell was also chairman of the Bush-Cheney 2004 reelection effort in Ohio. Connell refused to testify or to produce documents relating to the system used in the 2004 and 2006 elections, lawyers said.[7]

    Death

    At about 6 p.m. on December 19, 2008, Connell was killed, at the age of 45,[1] in the crash of a single-engine 1997 Piper Saratoga private airplane, which he was flying, which occurred in Lake Township, between 2.5 and 3 miles short of the runway at the Akron-Canton Airport near Akron, Ohio.

    On December 31, 2008 it was reported that air traffic controllers had noted prior to the crash that Connell was off course, that they had been in communication with him regarding this, and that he had been trying to get back on course at the time of the crash. There were reported to have been no signs of mechanical problems with the plane.[9]

    The National Transportation Safety Board published its final report into the accident that killed Connell on January 28, 2010. The board concluded that Connell had lost control of the aircraft as a result of disorientation while turning in cloud. During a pre-flight briefing Connell had commented that he wanted to return to Akron before the weather "went from bad to worse". Several other pilots in the vicinity had reported severe icing at the time of the crash; Connell's aircraft was not equipped or approved to fly in icing conditions.[10]

    A January 2010 article in Maxim Magazine speculated that because Connell possessed knowledge which, if revealed, would be damaging to high-level Republicans, his death may have been the result of sabotage of his aircraft,[11] particularly as his cell-phone was never recovered.[12] Project Censored, a small non-profit organization, has called for a Federal criminal investigation; and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has called the case "more serious than Watergate."
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    How does that have anything to do with my statement?
    We talking about idiots, and voter suppression, right?
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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    We talking about idiots, and voter suppression, right?
    No, I was just calling Karl Rove an idiot. I don't think any "voter suppression" could have changed this landslide. Romney was a poor candidate, and he didn't generate much enthusiasm. This election would have been a slam dunk for the GOP if they nominated a likable candidate.
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    Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler View Post
    No, I was just calling Karl Rove an idiot. I don't think any "voter suppression" could have changed this landslide. Romney was a poor candidate, and he didn't generate much enthusiasm. This election would have been a slam dunk for the GOP if they nominated a likable candidate.
    Well then I took what you said, and combined it with the thread topic, and said what I said. Problem??
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    The only people suppressing anybody voting was the GOP with their antiquated/hypocritical social agenda.
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    Romney could've won if he was considerate more to hispanics, blacks, women, college student and gays.

    But he didn't he choose tooooo.
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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    Well then I took what you said, and combined it with the thread topic, and said what I said. Problem??
    Aside from you misrepresenting my opinion, we're all good. Karl Rove is a marginally intelligent strategist that has had a lot of success persuading feeble minded members of the electorate who frequently watch Fox News.
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