Reply
Results 1 to 20 of 20
  1. #1
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline

    Beggining the slow bulk! Please shed some light!

    I am 164 LB down from 191 LB.

    Been cutting for a good 8-10 months.

    I want to start adding some mass and would like some opinions on how to go about doing this.

    Right now im taking in about 1700-1900 calories a day. I am doing Layne Norton's Power/Hypertrophy routine and enjoy it. I am open to switching the routine up if you think it will help mass gains. I have not done a clean bulk before and want to make sure I gain the least amount of fat as possible. My diet is in check.



    Please post your thoughts on routines and please if you could guess my BF %?


    Reps!

    Before

    before.jpg

    Current

    photo1.jpg
    Last edited by blackhawks87; 11-08-2012 at 10:50 AM. Reason: Added a before pic
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    added a before pic..
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User Cancbrah's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2012
    Posts: 46
    Rep Power: 0
    Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Cancbrah has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    Cancbrah is offline
    why bulk?
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by Cancbrah View Post
    why bulk?
    Feelin kinda small want to get some more mass no?
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User JL32's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2012
    Posts: 11
    Rep Power: 0
    JL32 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    JL32 is offline
    Originally Posted by blackhawks87 View Post
    Feelin kinda small want to get some more mass no?
    Man great job!! I would say you are at 12%. It's a good bf% to start a bulk. Just eat right and keep track of what you are eating. Well done!
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by JL32 View Post
    Man great job!! I would say you are at 12%. It's a good bf% to start a bulk. Just eat right and keep track of what you are eating. Well done!
    Thanks I appreciate it man.. yeah I have been laboring on whether to continue cutting down further or to just bulk and i think the bulk is a good play...


    Repped
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Registered User simoxeh's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Location: Indianapolis, Indiana, United States
    Age: 41
    Posts: 364
    Rep Power: 211
    simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50) simoxeh will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    simoxeh is offline
    Originally Posted by blackhawks87 View Post
    I am 164 LB down from 191 LB.

    Been cutting for a good 8-10 months.

    I want to start adding some mass and would like some opinions on how to go about doing this.

    Right now im taking in about 1700-1900 calories a day. I am doing Layne Norton's Power/Hypertrophy routine and enjoy it. I am open to switching the routine up if you think it will help mass gains. I have not done a clean bulk before and want to make sure I gain the least amount of fat as possible. My diet is in check.

    Please post your thoughts on routines and please if you could guess my BF %?


    Reps!

    Before

    Attachment 5059253

    Current

    Attachment 5058993
    As long as your diet is in check you will gain the weight. Just don't over do the cardio and have an idea of how much you want to gain each week. If you hit it great if not, adjust your diet. You did an awesome job so far I'm sure you will get it done.
    11-12% in my unprofessional opinion.
    Legends are not about the goals, but the journey to reach them.
    You can't reach buried treasue without going through some dirt.
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by simoxeh View Post
    As long as your diet is in check you will gain the weight. Just don't over do the cardio and have an idea of how much you want to gain each week. If you hit it great if not, adjust your diet. You did an awesome job so far I'm sure you will get it done.
    11-12% in my unprofessional opinion.
    Thanks I appreciate the feedback.. Yeah my diet is definetly in check. I have also done no cardio at all for the cut.. this i regret because of reasons other then fat loss..lol i know i should for my overall health..

    But i plan to slowly up carbs and see what happens lol

    Repped
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Registered User Muggles93's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2011
    Age: 30
    Posts: 51
    Rep Power: 164
    Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Muggles93 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Muggles93 is offline
    Make sure you hit carbs.. everyone needs carbs.
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Registered User fitpro88's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2012
    Location: Arizona, United States
    Age: 35
    Posts: 12
    Rep Power: 0
    fitpro88 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    fitpro88 is offline
    Dang bro only 1700-1900 cals? Well im sure you know how big protein is for gaining muscle mass...for bulking you wanna atleast have 1g to 1-1/2 ( ideally ) grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. So your cals per day will probably go up but that's ok..just keep up your workouts
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by fitpro88 View Post
    Dang bro only 1700-1900 cals? Well im sure you know how big protein is for gaining muscle mass...for bulking you wanna atleast have 1g to 1-1/2 ( ideally ) grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. So your cals per day will probably go up but that's ok..just keep up your workouts
    Yeah for sure man, thanks. I will start upping protein and carbs to fill in any calorie gaps... shouldnt I be getting more carbs then protein as in like double?
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Registered User ameribrah's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2011
    Age: 41
    Posts: 1,968
    Rep Power: 408
    ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250) ameribrah has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    ameribrah is offline
    dang 1700 ? do you feel hungy often? mirin gains tho
    ♝ MISC CHESS CREW BLACK KNIGHT ♝

    it's a 1v1 duel, a brutal chess match with nowhere to hide that requires extensive training, where the ultimate stakes are not scoring more points or pride but preserving the well-being of your body. The penalty for being unfocused or outclassed is not merely getting benched for the next game or not getting your contract renewed, it can be the annihilation of your physical manifestion.
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by ameribrah View Post
    dang 1700 ? do you feel hungy often? mirin gains tho
    Yeah i mean i try and space my meals out like this

    6am
    oats-whey

    Lift-7am-8am

    8am - pwo shake

    9am - oats whey

    12pm - chicken / eggs

    3pm - chicken / eggs / or tuna

    6pm - tuna or eggs

    9pm - prebed cottage cheese / PB / Casein

    I eat the same stuff every day.. lol very bland diet and boring but i dont mind the foods... so it works for me..

    and I dont think meal timing has anything to do with gains.

    I also drink water constantly all day and have espresso shots throughout the day.
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Registered User CRIMSON5's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2012
    Age: 38
    Posts: 90
    Rep Power: 0
    CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    CRIMSON5 is offline
    Great progress on the cut! It looks like you have some good mass already, especially in your pecs and arms. Well done and good luck on whatever you decide to do!
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by CRIMSON5 View Post
    Great progress on the cut! It looks like you have some good mass already, especially in your pecs and arms. Well done and good luck on whatever you decide to do!
    Thanks man. Appreciate it. Do you think a slow bulk would yield good results? or continue cutting to shred down to 9-10%?
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    Registered User comtrang's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2011
    Location: Olathe, Kansas, United States
    Age: 34
    Posts: 59
    Rep Power: 151
    comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) comtrang has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    comtrang is offline
    Looks like you got your diet down, good that you can deal with bland without a problem. It's tough.
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by comtrang View Post
    Looks like you got your diet down, good that you can deal with bland without a problem. It's tough.
    Yeah man honestly.. it was rough for the first month or so then i just got used to it.. and im almost ashamed that i find 2 chicken breasts with 2 eggs delicious.. or mixing oats water and whey.. lol

    my roomie makes fun of me so hard for my pre bed snack too cottage cheese / pb / casein looks nasty... but tastes like cheesecake to me haha
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    Registered User CRIMSON5's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2012
    Age: 38
    Posts: 90
    Rep Power: 0
    CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    CRIMSON5 is offline
    Well, IMO you are at a good bf% for a slow clean bulk (If more mass over cut is what you desire). To put on the size you definately need to up your calorie intake because it is going to be very tough to pack on the muscle with that few amount of calories (1700-1900). On the other hand, It looks like you are successfully cutting without losing mass right now so I think you would look solid at 9-10% bf. But in the end, its your choice....either way, I feel like you will do well!
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    Registered User blackhawks87's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2010
    Location: Fayetteville, Georgia, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 293
    Rep Power: 178
    blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10) blackhawks87 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    blackhawks87 is offline
    Originally Posted by CRIMSON5 View Post
    Well, IMO you are at a good bf% for a slow clean bulk (If more mass over cut is what you desire). To put on the size you definately need to up your calorie intake because it is going to be very tough to pack on the muscle with that few amount of calories (1700-1900). On the other hand, It looks like you are successfully cutting without losing mass right now so I think you would look solid at 9-10% bf. But in the end, its your choice....either way, I feel like you will do well!
    Solid advice man i really appreciate it. I think ill eat at or around maintenance for a week and think it over anyway.. if i decide to bulk ill do it really slowly... dont want to pack on un needed fat for sure.

    Repped.
    Take Ownership
    Mind over Matter for the win
    Reply With Quote

  20. #20
    Registered User CRIMSON5's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2012
    Age: 38
    Posts: 90
    Rep Power: 0
    CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) CRIMSON5 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    CRIMSON5 is offline
    Thanks man and thats a good idea! Repped back!
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts