bodybuilders vs. powerlifters

[br0k3np1p3]

and now that i have your attention with a seemingly controversial thread, this is not a debate thread just an observation. i've met tons of broscientist bodybuilders but never met a powerlifter that didn't know what they were talking about. what's up with that?

[Monahawk]

That is because the most of the bad advices given are for bodybuilders, and the number of powerlifters are significantly lower than bodybuilders.
Therefore, the smaller the community, the better the content.

[Vampirelol]

brb you dont know what youre talking about and couldnt understand either of them. you just liked the taste of the powerlifters dink more.

[NaturalFTW]

probably because of the whole "anabolic" window crap

[br0k3np1p3]

brb you dont know what youre talking about and couldnt understand either of them. you just liked the taste of the powerlifters dink more.

simply an observation mate. if you ask any powerlifter at your gym about something they could probably give a pretty decent answer or at least put you in the right direction. i've seen plenty of huge dudes that don't know what theyre doing they just have a bb split set up and they do what it says.

[Vampirelol]

simply an observation mate. if you ask any powerlifter at your gym about something they could probably give a pretty decent answer or at least put you in the right direction. i've seen plenty of huge dudes that don't know what theyre doing they just have a bb split set up and they do what it says.

but if theyre huge do they really not know what theyre doing?

[br0k3np1p3]

probably because of the whole "anabolic" window crap

the anabolic window is a pretty big thing, but in a sense you could argue that eating immediately post workout causes an insulin spike which is anabolic

[br0k3np1p3]

but if theyre huge do they really not know what theyre doing?

if you eat a lot and lift you'll see results. being big does not equal knowing what youre doing

[Johneffer]

the anabolic window is a pretty big thing, but in a sense you could argue that eating immediately post workout causes an insulin spike which is anabolic

i drink OJ with high protein foods for insulin spike :') so good for gains

[GAYSWAGPHAGGY53]

cute boy

[Vampirelol]

if you eat a lot and lift you'll see results. being big does not equal knowing what youre doing

Is having a large amount of muscle mass not the end goal? for both powerlifters and bodybuilders?

Tell me what you think 'knowing what youre doing' is.

[br0k3np1p3]

Is having a large amount of muscle mass not the end goal? for both powerlifters and bodybuilders?

Tell me what you think 'knowing what youre doing' is.

being knowledgeable about what you are talking about. i never said "powerlifters tend to reach their goals more." i said they usually know what they're talking about more. if you asked some big azz bodybuilder about his macro, micro, and meso-cycles you'd probably sit there all day listening to what celltech he is using

edit: i doubt powerlifters care so much about mass so long as they can pick chit up

[ghjk24]

but if theyre huge do they really not know what theyre doing?

Most of the time what they say WILL work, but usually there are more optimal ways of going about things.


A perfect example would be a bro telling you to do clean eating (which can work) vs iifym (which obviously works as well)

[br0k3np1p3]

Most of the time what they say WILL work, but usually there are more optimal ways of going about things.


A perfect example would be a bro telling you to do clean eating (which can work) vs iifym (which obviously works as well)

this. or telling you to blow out your chest with 8 exercises when you could achieve the same results with less work

[Vampirelol]

this. or telling you to blow out your chest with 8 exercises when you could achieve the same results with less work

you're just as brain dead as the kind of people you're trying to call out.

[buzzbot]

Rare serious post incoming...

Assuming the bb and pl are at the same level in their field (both compete locally, or nationally) then the pl will give better advice than a bodybuilder while they're in lower levels, because pling is basic and pl like to keep it that way. Bb is basic but low level bb get ahead of themselves and give bad advice sometimes because they're too excited about the whole thing. Example-johneffer.

Slightly more successful pl give equally good advice for the same reasons. Slightly higher level bb give better advice than lower levels because they know what's up at this point and they've gotten the clean eating, anabolic window, paleo diet, bullchit out of their system.

Top level pl give good advice for the same reason as before. Top level bodybuilders can give good advice, but also often just say what works for them which won't work for almost everyone else.


*disclaimer*
These are generalizations and do not necessarily apply to everyone, especially not your favorite instafitness warrior, God forbid they get criticized. Blah blah pl can give bad advice and all levels of bb can give good advice. Again generalizations. Now fuuuuccckkkk off

[br0k3np1p3]

you're just as brain dead as the kind of people you're trying to call out.

if only you knew that a muscle responds best to hypertrophy between 60-80 contractions. anything after that is diminishing returns mate

[br0k3np1p3]

Rare serious post incoming...

Assuming the bb and pl are at the same level in their field (both compete locally, or nationally) then the pl will give better advice than a bodybuilder while they're in lower levels, because pling is basic and pl like to keep it that way. Bb is basic but low level bb get ahead of themselves and give bad advice sometimes because they're too excited about the whole thing. Example-johneffer.

Slightly more successful pl give equally good advice for the same reasons. Slightly higher level bb give better advice than lower levels because they know what's up at this point and they've gotten the clean eating, anabolic window, paleo diet, bullchit out of their system.

Top level pl give good advice for the same reason as before. Top level bodybuilders can give good advice, but also often just say what works for them which won't work for almost everyone else.


*disclaimer*
These are generalizations and do not necessarily apply to everyone, especially not your favorite instafitness warrior, God forbid they get criticized. Blah blah pl can give bad advice and all levels of bb can give good advice. Again generalizations. Now fuuuuccckkkk off

agreed

edit- cant agree with the johneffer part. never seen him give advice

[letsdothisbro]

you're just as brain dead as the kind of people you're trying to call out.

You're a complete idiot if you don't agree with what you quoted

[Jaywalking]

You're a complete idiot if you don't agree with what you quoted

Prime Minister's

[thebighazza]

2 reasons

a) Most 'bodybuilders' are recreational lifters.
b) 'bodybuilders' listen to the advice from people on juice and try to imitate what they are doing.

[br0k3np1p3]

2 reasons

a) Most 'bodybuilders' are recreational lifters.
b) 'bodybuilders' listen to the advice from people on juice and try to imitate what they are doing.

Bodybuilder was a loosely used term

[mmafighter1294]

powerlifting is so much simpler than bodybuilding, there's not nearly as much to know.

[anonymous]

One could argue bodybuilding is more complex, so there is more room for error

[Sustain]

most of bodybuilding is largely broscience. "clean" food+drugs+lifting routine+sleep=grow. simple

most powerlifters heavily invested in the sport/lifestyle have put forth time into researching to optimize the time and effort they put into their training. form, equipment, programming, etc. the same could apply to bodybuilding but the great majority i would say haven't/won't

[Vampirelol]

You're a complete idiot if you don't agree with what you quoted

You're telling me that less volume/work will give you the same results as some low volume magical exercise that's just perfectly tuned to specific muscle sculpting?

u fukin wot m8

[XCRunner9]

Powerlifters got strong knowing what they were doing.

Bodybuilders focus on a combination of things in which they think will maximize hypertrophy, but doesn't, so they end up spinning their wheels or simply don't know any better as they believe there's only one way to making all kindz of gainz.

^ Possibly dude. You literally think more is always better? There's a point that if increased volume hinders intensity and recovery, then it is counterproductive to the point where less volume is beneficial. There's a reason why beginners usually have higher intensity than higher volume until they've been lifting for a decent length of time.

[Sustain]

You're telling me that less volume/work will give you the same results as some low volume magical exercise that's just perfectly tuned to specific muscle sculpting?

u fukin wot m8

ya i would rather heavy barbell bench press then fool around with incline decline chest cable crossovers etc etc blah blah blah any day

you can still be "aesthetic" whilst being strong as hell and having your workouts/training centered primarily around the big 3 and not wasting your time doing heaps of isolation work

examples

[MarcAWilson]

Power lifters focus on numbers and progression, they like to calculate everything out and track results. Bodybuilders, for the most part, go by feel and how they look.

Bodybuilders also have to be genetically gifted. Powerlifters can train for a long time and get to a pretty competitive level regardless of genetics (for the most part). So, bodybuilders with good physiques think they know what works because it worked for them, and people believe what they say because of their physique.

[Sustain]

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