I never tried the original jack3D, wish I would have. I have some D-stunner with the 1,3 in it left over from back then and it's pretty good. You can still find those pre workouts with 1,3 in them around the internet but it's becoming more and more difficult. So I wasn't going to bother mentioning any of those. I think it will be easier to just buy 1,3 on its own, like with that ADRENA-G stuff.
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11-08-2012, 12:33 PM #37
New Muscletechs Neurocore is my fav. It's the 2nd generation stuff-- but my intensity, focus, motivation and drive is at its all time high. So, for a person to train at 5am, like me, this stuff is phenomonal.
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I love AAEFX Kotic. I get an intense focus from it and sustained energy. It does have 3 grams of creatine as well as beta alanine and citrulline malate though.
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11-08-2012, 06:20 PM #44
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll be looking into most of these supplements that I'm finding out about in here.
It's not that I don't want it to contain creatine or beta-alanine, it's just that I don't really care either way. I can count the dosage of those things into my daily intake if the supplement does have those things. As for the N.O. stuff, I'd prefer to not be paying for that to be in the supplement. Just looking for very strong focus and energy enhancement.
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11-08-2012, 06:37 PM #45
white flood is great! best pwo i've taken.
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11-14-2012, 12:26 AM #50
I scoped out most of the suggestions. Some of them caught my attention, some didn't. But thanks again for all the suggestions. I think I've repped most of you by now.
I did some checking and it looks like G-Fuel has a very similar profile to Focus XT. It actually has everything Focus XT has expect for one thing, the DMAE. I'm bringing this up because Focus XT isn't available on Bobybuilding.com for whatever reason but G-Fuel is. Focus XT seems to be a very popular suggestion so I'm just tossing that out there for anyone interested. Looks like two servings of G-fuel should be similar to two servings of Focus XT. I think I'll try that out pretty soon since I already have a bunch of it. Single serving G-fuel is pretty mild but you can definitely tell that it's working.Last edited by Blacklabel3; 11-14-2012 at 12:35 AM.
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11-14-2012, 12:37 AM #52
How much alcar is in Focus Xt?
It appears that G-fuel has 2 "blends" that totals up to ~2.8g and both include almost almost all of the ingredients in Focus Xt. Two servings of G-fuel would be the same amount of caffeine and ~5.6g of all that other stuff. Granted that 5.6g has more ingredients than the Focus Xt that I don't really know anything about, but its gotta be at least least a little bit similar. Three G-fuel servings might be even closer, but that is getting too expensive to even consider really.
Edit: Actually it looks like two servings of G-fuel is a lot more caffeine, I was mistaken. Three servings would be a huge dose. Guess they aren't so similar after all.Last edited by Blacklabel3; 11-14-2012 at 12:52 AM.
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11-14-2012, 12:55 AM #53
Well, we're interested in the nootropic benefits of a product and i wasn't lying when i said it would take 8 servings of G Fuel to meet Focus XT's nootropic blend. They are not even close lol. Focus XT is literally a 1 scoop product unlike 99% of other pre workouts out there.
I can't tell you exactly how much ALCAR is in each serving, but i can tell you i add 500mg of ALCAR to my Focus XT. If you know about ALCAR dosages you can fill in the blanks.Psych & handcuffs
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