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    Originally Posted by 62Wolf View Post
    I've tried most of the ones mentioned, but none got me going like the original Jack3d. Not wanting to do the 1,3 Dimeth, I tried a few others with nothing really working great. I got some of Ronnie Coleman's Myo -Blitz and I like it quite a bit. Get a sample of that and give it a go.
    I never tried the original jack3D, wish I would have. I have some D-stunner with the 1,3 in it left over from back then and it's pretty good. You can still find those pre workouts with 1,3 in them around the internet but it's becoming more and more difficult. So I wasn't going to bother mentioning any of those. I think it will be easier to just buy 1,3 on its own, like with that ADRENA-G stuff.
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    Originally Posted by ExDubio11 View Post
    the quote in your signature is retarded
    loooool, I was thinkin the same thing today btw, jus I used to be rediculously skinny, so I eat so much in order to gain, I'll take it off
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    I like Craze for the focus aspect, sometimes I will ad 100-200 mgs. of caffeine along with it, instead of going to 1.5 or 2 scoops.
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    ps MR. HYDE! focus and intensity!

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    Originally Posted by Blacklabel3 View Post
    I hadn't thought about trying multiple servings of G-Fuel. I still have a bunch of samples left over from a promo you guys ran not too long ago. Since then I've mostly been using it for gaming once or twice a week. I'll try using 2-3 of them and see how that treats me. I'm looking for a pretty strong kick.

    That PTF looks pretty good. I've had it on my wishlist for a while. It looks damn good as a all around pre-workout and that's why I saved it on there. It has a lot of ingredients that are solid. But for right now I'm looking for stuff that doesn't include all the extra stuff like the "N.O. Pump Complex:."
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    Focus XT is my go to focus/energy supplement, whether it's pre-wo or studying. No pump or other ingredients, just caffeine and nootropics.
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    New Muscletechs Neurocore is my fav. It's the 2nd generation stuff-- but my intensity, focus, motivation and drive is at its all time high. So, for a person to train at 5am, like me, this stuff is phenomonal.
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    Originally Posted by tdinh View Post
    New Muscletechs Neurocore is my fav. It's the 2nd generation stuff-- but my intensity, focus, motivation and drive is at its all time high. So, for a person to train at 5am, like me, this stuff is phenomonal.
    I liked the first version quite a bit but I haven't tried the new one yet. If it's similar or better than the first one I'm sure it's good too.
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    Originally Posted by youngkang View Post
    app nut lit up and Focus Xt worked well for me on the focus enhancement part. Been using the new gamma Labs Gfuel stacked with Omega sports Ultima and its been working great!
    I have both on hand, may have to try that!!
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    Originally Posted by Blacklabel3 View Post
    I'm looking for some stuff that is all about the energy, focus and concentration enhancement. Stuff that is not so much about the NO production and the pump. Don't care much about creatine or beta-alanine content. Been getting that stuff in bulk.
    I know about Craze, Animal Rage, Cardio Igniter, BRX, and NeuroSurge. What else is out there?
    Will rep all legit responses.
    cardio igniter is what i reach for it i'm feeling squirrelly lol
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    Originally Posted by soopamyko View Post
    ps MR. HYDE! focus and intensity!

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    if you can get your hands on Hyde(old version) buy it, dont think you can find a pre more stimmed than that
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    I love AAEFX Kotic. I get an intense focus from it and sustained energy. It does have 3 grams of creatine as well as beta alanine and citrulline malate though.
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    Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll be looking into most of these supplements that I'm finding out about in here.

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    I love AAEFX Kotic. I get an intense focus from it and sustained energy. It does have 3 grams of creatine as well as beta alanine and citrulline malate though.
    It's not that I don't want it to contain creatine or beta-alanine, it's just that I don't really care either way. I can count the dosage of those things into my daily intake if the supplement does have those things. As for the N.O. stuff, I'd prefer to not be paying for that to be in the supplement. Just looking for very strong focus and energy enhancement.
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    Originally Posted by Blacklabel3 View Post
    Thanks guys. Will eventually rep all good answers.

    Anything else out there that hasn't been mentioned? Looking for strong, mostly stimulant focused pre-workouts.
    sorry couldnt name more cuz m from India and its like a miracle to find a good supp or so here! i just named the ones i have found and tried!
    the first time i saw 1.m.r in India i was like NO! :O haha

    i still cant find orange triad around here lulz!
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    Originally Posted by Blacklabel3 View Post
    Anything else out there that hasn't been mentioned? Looking for strong, mostly stimulant focused pre-workouts.
    yeah, OP try out iforce Maximize Intense
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    I scoped out most of the suggestions. Some of them caught my attention, some didn't. But thanks again for all the suggestions. I think I've repped most of you by now.

    I did some checking and it looks like G-Fuel has a very similar profile to Focus XT. It actually has everything Focus XT has expect for one thing, the DMAE. I'm bringing this up because Focus XT isn't available on Bobybuilding.com for whatever reason but G-Fuel is. Focus XT seems to be a very popular suggestion so I'm just tossing that out there for anyone interested. Looks like two servings of G-fuel should be similar to two servings of Focus XT. I think I'll try that out pretty soon since I already have a bunch of it. Single serving G-fuel is pretty mild but you can definitely tell that it's working.
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    Originally Posted by Blacklabel3 View Post
    Thanks again for all the suggestions. I think I've repped most of you by now.

    I did some checking and it looks like G-Fuel has a very similar profile to Focus XT. It actually has everything Focus XT has expect for one thing, the DMAE. I'm bringing this up because Focus XT isn't available on Bobybuilding.com for whatever reason but G-Fuel is. Focus XT seems to be a very popular suggestion so I'm just tossing that out there for anyone interested. Looks like two servings of G-fuel should be similar to two servings of Focus XT. I think I'll try that out pretty soon since I already have a bunch of it. Single serving G-fuel is pretty mild but you can definitely tell that it's working.
    Well, if you're simply looking at the nootropics blend it would take 8 servings of G Fuel to = 1 serving of Focus XT. Focus XT is a 9.8g blend, G fuel is 1.75g with less than 150mg ALCAR per serving. There really is no comparison.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Well, if you're simply looking at the nootropics blend it would take 8 servings of G Fuel to = 1 serving of Focus XT. Focus XT is a 9.8g blend, G fuel is 1.75g with less than 150mg ALCAR per serving. There really is no comparison.
    How much alcar is in Focus Xt?

    It appears that G-fuel has 2 "blends" that totals up to ~2.8g and both include almost almost all of the ingredients in Focus Xt. Two servings of G-fuel would be the same amount of caffeine and ~5.6g of all that other stuff. Granted that 5.6g has more ingredients than the Focus Xt that I don't really know anything about, but its gotta be at least least a little bit similar. Three G-fuel servings might be even closer, but that is getting too expensive to even consider really.



    Edit: Actually it looks like two servings of G-fuel is a lot more caffeine, I was mistaken. Three servings would be a huge dose. Guess they aren't so similar after all.
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    Originally Posted by Blacklabel3 View Post
    How much alcar is in Focus Xt?

    It appears that G-fuel has 2 "blends" that totals up to ~2.8g and both include almost almost all of the ingredients in Focus Xt. Two servings of G-fuel would be the same amount of caffeine and ~5.6g of all that other stuff. Granted that 5.6g has more ingredients than the Focus Xt that I don't really know anything about, but its gotta be at least least a little bit similar. Three G-fuel servings might be even closer, but that is getting too expensive to even consider really.



    Edit: Actually it looks like two servings of G-fuel is a lot more caffeine, I was mistaken. Three servings would be a huge dose. Guess they aren't so similar after all.
    Well, we're interested in the nootropic benefits of a product and i wasn't lying when i said it would take 8 servings of G Fuel to meet Focus XT's nootropic blend. They are not even close lol. Focus XT is literally a 1 scoop product unlike 99% of other pre workouts out there.

    I can't tell you exactly how much ALCAR is in each serving, but i can tell you i add 500mg of ALCAR to my Focus XT. If you know about ALCAR dosages you can fill in the blanks.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Well, we're interested in the nootropic benefits of a product and i wasn't lying when i said it would take 8 servings of G Fuel to meet Focus XT's nootropic blend. They are not even close lol. Focus XT is literally a 1 scoop product unlike 99% of other pre workouts out there.

    I can't tell you exactly how much ALCAR is in each serving, but i can tell you i add 500mg of ALCAR to my Focus XT. If you know about ALCAR dosages you can fill in the blanks.
    Hmm, yeah I guess they aren't. Ah well, that's okay. I found a Focus Xt source on a different discount site. I already have some G-fuel so I'm still going to experiment with it but I suppose it won't be a Focus Xt replacement.
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