The latter part is irrelevant to bodybuilders lol. However, pro's are getting less and less "fat" in the offseason. Cardiovascular health plays little role if any as to why bb'rs do cardio.
Called the "widowmaker" from the old DC training days. You can also HIT circuit train and it works like cardio as well. Keeps the heart rate up.
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11-07-2012, 01:35 PM #31"There are no victims, only volunteers. You volunteer by looking uncertain and afraid. You volunteer by being, as grass-eaters invariably are, unprepared to confront the hazards of life." - Col. Jeff Cooper
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11-07-2012, 01:42 PM #32
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11-07-2012, 03:01 PM #34
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11-07-2012, 05:01 PM #35Kai Greene, Phil Heath, Cedric McMillan, Lionel Beyeke, Shawn Rhoden
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11-07-2012, 06:36 PM #37
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your wrong. At low intensity fat is the primary source but you also have to know that as intensity increases so does the amount of fat being burned. As cardio gets more intense more fats AND more carbs are being burned its just viewed that when someones RER is at .85 it is 50% fats and 50% carbs but the fats being burned are still more than doing low intensity just less of a concentration. At 1.0 RER it is 100% carbs being used in the production of ATP. It is important to know that the fuel source being used in the production of ATP has nothing to do with losing weight. Losing weight is simply a product of being in caloric deficit.
In the average person HIIT is the most beneficial form of cardio because it is more efficient than LISS and recruits more motor units and fast twitch fibers than LISS making it a more anabolic environment and promoting greater protein synthesis. Like other have stated in this thread many pro's stay away from HIIT because the risk of injury and they dont need that added protein synthesis because of their "supplements"
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11-07-2012, 06:51 PM #38
[QUOTE=Brofessional;976020333]I'm always amazed at guys that can get really lean without any cardio. What does your deficit look like starting out and at the end of that period?[/QUOTE
last time i dieted for about 14 weeks i started at 2800 (maintenance was 3100) and then i ended at about 2200..
and for the record i got just as lean as i did in 16 weeks.. doing the stairmaster for 45 min 5 times a week for the entire time.. and my calories were at abuot the same
so to me... diet>cardioInstagram: thomas_poucher
yes i've tried doing incline first
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11-08-2012, 06:37 AM #41"There are no victims, only volunteers. You volunteer by looking uncertain and afraid. You volunteer by being, as grass-eaters invariably are, unprepared to confront the hazards of life." - Col. Jeff Cooper
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11-08-2012, 06:41 AM #42
I honestly don't know. My legs were the biggest they ever had been using his principles. For quads you'd do basically 2 exercises:
1) Heavy compound: Squat, Front Squat, Hacks, Leg press
2) Ancillary: Lunges, Extensions, etc.
For the compound movement you'd do a bunch of warm ups to get the blood flowing then:
- 1 heavy ass set for 8 reps
- Widowmaker 20 rep set (heavy as you can go with just barely making 20 reps)
TBH, my knees feel better with high rep sets.
Now...I'd rather do 3 sets of 225x20 vs. 3 sets of 315x10, 365x8, 405x6"There are no victims, only volunteers. You volunteer by looking uncertain and afraid. You volunteer by being, as grass-eaters invariably are, unprepared to confront the hazards of life." - Col. Jeff Cooper
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11-08-2012, 09:13 AM #43
You are right about there being more fat lost OVERALL, but there is also a lot of carbohydrates lost. I am sure that pros who eat like pigs as it is, don't want to have to eat another 1000 calories to make up the calories used up during HIT cardio. For you and me, HIT is the way to go, for the pros, like it was already said here......more stress on the already overstressed joints, muscles, depletion especially pre-contest, their size all add to them not doing it I believe. Also quite frankly I don't think most of them are in good enough of a shape to do HIT.....carrying that much muscle around has to make it almost impossible to work out that hard for any amount of time. Most of them are out of breath just being alive.......lol.
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