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    No one's taxes should be raised during this economic crisis. If you raise taxes on the rich or corporations they will make cuts to offset them accordingly. Who the hell do you think the majority of middle income and lower income people work for? They work for corporations and rich people. If anyone's taxes are raised...lower and middle income families will suffer.
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    Originally Posted by Wyomann View Post
    I don't agree with the ACA. I think people should buy their own health care. My employer has purchased health care for us, but our paychecks are deducted to pay for it, so we are basically paying for it ourselves.

    One mandate that I can not believe is that insurance companies are forced to cover people's children through the age of 26. Are you kidding me? 26 as a "kid". That's just ridiculous. I'm 32 I really have no benefit or loss on this particular mandate, but it's still retarded. I'm sure this means some people's insurance will go up to cover their 25 y/o "kid" insurance. It's more crap designed to make people rely on someone else. At age 26 you should be buying your own and not have your parents insurance forced to cover you.

    I'm guessing another reason they did that is because many people under the age of 26 would financially qualify for assistance from the government, so they are making their parents pay for it instead.
    the intent of this was for college grads to be covered after college until they are able to find a job with benefits or one that will help them pay for it on their own.
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    Originally Posted by BankWalker View Post
    No one's taxes should be raised during this economic crisis. If you raise taxes on the rich or corporations they will make cuts to offset them accordingly. Who the hell do you think the majority of middle income and lower income people work for? They work for corporations and rich people. If anyone's taxes are raised...lower and middle income families will suffer.
    old tired argument. They've had the tax cuts in place for over 10 years so where are the jobs?
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    Originally Posted by Wyomann View Post
    The “ObamaCare” coverage for adult children does not extend to grandchildren.

    If your son and daughter-in-law are low income, the baby may qualify for Medicaid. The Medicaid plan can cover just the baby or the baby and mother.
    If they are not considered low income I guess they would be up sh*t creek then huh?
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    old tired argument. They've had the tax cuts in place for over 10 years so where are the jobs?
    Well...... to answer your question, if you call customer service India, Mexico, China, Vietnam, Honduras..............
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    Originally Posted by Iceman1800 View Post
    old tired argument. They've had the tax cuts in place for over 10 years so where are the jobs?
    Since many like to argue in terms of what didn't happen, eg, the country would've collapsed had it not been for Obama, who is to say that the rate of job loss wouldn't have been significantly higher without higher tax rates?

    I don't believe in this sort of nearly religious argument, but what's good for the goose, right?
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Was watching this all night!

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    Originally Posted by goranothos View Post
    Welcome to the United States of Welfare & Food Stamps.
    Has a nice ring to it doesn't it?
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    Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Com...1/09/id/463571

    Top US Companies Plan Layoffs Because of Obamacare
    Friday, 09 Nov 2012 04:00 PM
    By Bill Hoffman

    Nearly a dozen top United States companies plan to start laying off hundreds of employees with the implementation of Obamacare, according to the non-profit political action group FreedomWorks.

    FreedomWorks compiled the list, reported in Friday’s Washington Times, from statements made by the firms since President Barack Obama’s healthcare mandate was passed.

    The firms include:

    • Welch Allyn — a manufacturer of medical diagnostic equipment in central New York — which says it will cut 275 employees, about 10 percent of its workforce, over the next three years.
    • Dana Holding Corp. — a global auto parts manufacturing company — which warned of layoffs due "$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. healthcare expenses.’’
    • Stryker — a medical device manufacturer — which plans to close its facility in Orchard Park, N.Y., eliminating 96 jobs in December. They also say they’ll slash 5 percent of their global workforce, about 1,170 positions.
    • Boston Scientific — a medical device manufacturer — said it plans to cut between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while shifting investments and workers overseas to China.
    • Medtronic — a medical device maker — which cut 500 positions over the summer, with 500 more set to be eliminated by the end of 2013.
    Other companies promising job cuts include: Smith & Nephew — 770 layoffs; Abbott Labs — 700 layoffs; Covidien — 595 layoffs; Kinetic Concepts — 427 layoffs; St. Jude Medical — 300 layoffs; and Hill Rom — 200 layoffs.

    Among the reasons for the layoffs: increased costs for health insurance and, in the case of medical manufacturing companies, a new medical-device tax.

    [end of report]

    *** This does not even count the major restaurant chains that have already slotted to reduce their thousands of employee's work hours to part-time status in order to avoid Obamacare.
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    Originally Posted by Phattso View Post
    Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Com...1/09/id/463571

    Top US Companies Plan Layoffs Because of Obamacare
    Friday, 09 Nov 2012 04:00 PM
    By Bill Hoffman

    Nearly a dozen top United States companies plan to start laying off hundreds of employees with the implementation of Obamacare, according to the non-profit political action group FreedomWorks.

    FreedomWorks compiled the list, reported in Friday’s Washington Times, from statements made by the firms since President Barack Obama’s healthcare mandate was passed.

    The firms include:

    • Welch Allyn — a manufacturer of medical diagnostic equipment in central New York — which says it will cut 275 employees, about 10 percent of its workforce, over the next three years.
    • Dana Holding Corp. — a global auto parts manufacturing company — which warned of layoffs due "$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. healthcare expenses.’’
    • Stryker — a medical device manufacturer — which plans to close its facility in Orchard Park, N.Y., eliminating 96 jobs in December. They also say they’ll slash 5 percent of their global workforce, about 1,170 positions.
    • Boston Scientific — a medical device manufacturer — said it plans to cut between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while shifting investments and workers overseas to China.
    • Medtronic — a medical device maker — which cut 500 positions over the summer, with 500 more set to be eliminated by the end of 2013.
    Other companies promising job cuts include: Smith & Nephew — 770 layoffs; Abbott Labs — 700 layoffs; Covidien — 595 layoffs; Kinetic Concepts — 427 layoffs; St. Jude Medical — 300 layoffs; and Hill Rom — 200 layoffs.

    Among the reasons for the layoffs: increased costs for health insurance and, in the case of medical manufacturing companies, a new medical-device tax.

    [end of report]

    *** This does not even count the major restaurant chains that have already slotted to reduce their thousands of employee's work hours to part-time status in order to avoid Obamacare.
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    Originally Posted by Phattso View Post
    Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Com...1/09/id/463571

    Top US Companies Plan Layoffs Because of Obamacare
    Friday, 09 Nov 2012 04:00 PM
    By Bill Hoffman

    Nearly a dozen top United States companies plan to start laying off hundreds of employees with the implementation of Obamacare, according to the non-profit political action group FreedomWorks.

    FreedomWorks compiled the list, reported in Friday’s Washington Times, from statements made by the firms since President Barack Obama’s healthcare mandate was passed.

    The firms include:

    • Welch Allyn — a manufacturer of medical diagnostic equipment in central New York — which says it will cut 275 employees, about 10 percent of its workforce, over the next three years.
    • Dana Holding Corp. — a global auto parts manufacturing company — which warned of layoffs due "$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. healthcare expenses.’’
    • Stryker — a medical device manufacturer — which plans to close its facility in Orchard Park, N.Y., eliminating 96 jobs in December. They also say they’ll slash 5 percent of their global workforce, about 1,170 positions.
    • Boston Scientific — a medical device manufacturer — said it plans to cut between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while shifting investments and workers overseas to China.
    • Medtronic — a medical device maker — which cut 500 positions over the summer, with 500 more set to be eliminated by the end of 2013.
    Other companies promising job cuts include: Smith & Nephew — 770 layoffs; Abbott Labs — 700 layoffs; Covidien — 595 layoffs; Kinetic Concepts — 427 layoffs; St. Jude Medical — 300 layoffs; and Hill Rom — 200 layoffs.

    Among the reasons for the layoffs: increased costs for health insurance and, in the case of medical manufacturing companies, a new medical-device tax.

    [end of report]

    *** This does not even count the major restaurant chains that have already slotted to reduce their thousands of employee's work hours to part-time status in order to avoid Obamacare.
    Interesting to see how many of these companies make their millions off the healthcare industry. Hypocrite much?
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    Originally Posted by justboo2u View Post
    Interesting to see how many of these companies make their millions off the healthcare industry. Hypocrite much?
    The entire healthcare industry besides health insurance providers are just like any other industry. The healthcare industry isn't the only industry about to layoff employees. This is one example, so no - no hypocrisy. Has something to do with being able to survive. Not in retaliation to Obamacare.
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    I wonder if these companies are owned by old white men?
    No, they are businesses. Has nothing to do with race. But, I see the humor
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    I wonder if these companies are owned by old white men?
    That's kinda like going to Kenya, and asking, in the same sarcastic tone, "I wonder if these huts were built by black men?"

    Your question is merely a distraction to any "truth" you may seek. Hell, just ask Herman Caine, George Foreman, Tyler Perry, etc., and ask them the very same questions that you would ask a white business owner/entrepreneur.

    Get ready for a dose of reality.............
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    Non-Healthcare Layoffs

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...684_story.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2094568.html



    Darden Restaurants

    According to the Orlando Sentinel, Darden Restaurants, a casual dining chain best known for their Red Lobster, Olive Garden and LongHorn Steakhouse restaurants, is "experimenting with limiting the hours of some of its workers to avoid health care requirements under the Affordable Care Act when they take effect in 2014".

    JANCOA Janitorial Services

    The CEO of JANCOA, Mary Miller, testified to Congress that Obamacare was a "dream killer", adding that one option she had to consider "is reducing the majority of my team members to part-time employment in order to reduce the amount that I will be penalized."

    Kroger

    The American retailer in Cincinnati, Ohio recently was reported to be planning a significant slashing of their hourly workers. Doug Ross writes:

    Operative Faith (a mid-level manager with the company) reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Darden Restaurants and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.

    According to the source, Obamacare could result in tens of thousands of Kroger employees being limited to working 28 hours per week.

    Two or three of the following companies are in healthcare, but it makes no difference at all.

    Energizer -
    The St. Louis-based company said Thursday that it expects to shed about 1,500 employees. When finished, the restructuring should lead to $200 million in pretax yearly savings, Energizer said. It aims to have most of its restructuring steps finished by the end of September 2014.

    • Westinghouse -
    Westinghouse Anniston, the contractor responsible for shutting down Anniston’s chemical weapons incinerator, has reduced its workforce by another 50 employees.

    • Research in Motion Limited -
    Research in Motion Ltd., the maker of BlackBerry smartphones, laid off about 200 people at its U.S. headquarters in Irving on Wednesday, according to a source close to the company who did not want to be named.

    • Lightyear Network Solutions -
    More than one dozen employees at a Pikeville company lost their jobs this week. Officials with Lightyear Network Solutions said they are consolidating offices in Louisville and Pikeville to save money.

    • Hawker Beechcraft -
    The company says 240 employees will lose their jobs with the closing of Hawker Beechcraft Services facilities in Little Rock, Ark.; Mesa, Ariz.; and San Antonio, Texas.

    • Boeing (30% of their management staff) -
    Boeing Co. said Wednesday it plans to employ 30% fewer executives at its Boeing Defense, Space & Security unit by the end of 2012 compared to 2010 levels.

    • CVPH Medical Center -
    CVPH Medical Center has handed pink slips to 17 employees. The layoffs — nine in management and eight hourly staffers — are part of an effort to “help bolster the hospital’s financial position in 2013 and beyond,” a press release said.

    • US Cellular -
    The move will result in 980 job cuts at U.S. Cellular, with 640 in the Chicago area, according to a spokeswoman. The cuts are slightly under 12 percent of the approximately 8,400 total employees U.S. Cellular had at the end of the third quarter.

    • Momentive Performance Materials -
    About 150 workers at Sistersville’s Momentive Performance Materials plant will be temporarily laid off later this month, officials said this week.

    • Rocketdyne -
    About 100 employees at Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne, most of whom work in the San Fernando Valley, were laid off Wednesday in response to dwindling government spending on space exploration, the company said. The layoffs were effective immediately, and 75 percent of them came at the facilities on Canoga and De Soto avenues, which employ about 1,100 people. The company has six sites across the Valley.

    • Brake Parts -
    The leader of an automotive parts plant in Lincoln County has told state officials that there are plans to lay off 75 workers starting in late December…The layoffs are expected to start Dec. 28 and continue in the first quarter of 2013

    • Vestas Wind Systems -
    Vestas Wind Systems A/S (VWS) is seeking to sell a stake of as much as 20 percent and said it’s reducing headcount by 3,000 to raise the staff cuts by the biggest wind turbine maker to almost a third over two years.

    • Husqvarna -
    Husqvarna AB (HUSQB), the world’s biggest maker of powered garden tools, plans to cut about 600 jobs in a move that will save 220 million kronor ($33 million) a year by 2014.

    • Center for Hospice New York -
    The Center for Hospice and Palliative Care plans to temporarily lay off as many as 40 employees next year as it embarks on a major renovation of the inpatient unit at its Cheektowaga campus.

    • Bristol-Meyers -
    Bristol-Myers Squibb is following up its lackluster third-quarter results with almost 480 layoffs. As Pharmalot reports, the company notified the New Jersey government that it would scale back in Plainsboro, which means the cuts will hit its sales operations.

    • OCE North America -
    Trumbull printer- and scanning-equipment provider Oce North America, Inc. will lay off 135 workers in three Connecticut communities, including East Hartford, according to its notice with the state Labor Department.

    • Darden Restaurants -
    The company, which was among those who had received an Obamacare waiver in the past, is looking to limit workers to 28 hours per week. A full time employee that is required to have health insurance (lest the employer pay a fine) works 30 hours per week, as defined by the Obamacare law.

    • West Ridge Mine -
    In its statement, UtahAmerican Energy blames the Obama administration for instituting policies that will close down “204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014″ and for drastically reducing the market for coal.

    • United Blood Services Gulf -
    United Blood Services Gulf South region, the non-profit blood service provider for much of south Louisiana and Mississippi, will lay off approximately 10 percent of its workforce. It was a hard decision to make according to Susan Begnaud, Regional Center Director for the Gulf South region.
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    *** This does not even count the major restaurant chains that have already slotted to reduce their thousands of employee's work hours to part-time status in order to avoid Obamacare.
    You must have missed the part about the pardons being handed out (in order to keep civil obedience down)? The list is...quite impressive...and sickening, as the exemptions are nearly all politically tied...and to prevent blowback:

    List of Obamacare Exempt Companies
    Wayback Machine Arhive ^ | 07-27-2012 | Will Dangerfield

    Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:00:57 PM by willyd

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    Allied Building Inspectors IUOE Local 211 Welfare Fund
    Alpha Omega Home Health, LLC
    Andersen Corporation
    Bowman Sheet Metal Heating & Air-conditioning
    Bricklayers Insurance & Welfare Fund
    Bridge, Structural, Ornamental & Reinforcing Ironworkers Local Union No. 60*
    Carey Johnson Oil Co, Inc
    Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Albany*
    Cement Masons' Local No. 502 Welfare Fund
    City of Bloomington VEBA Health Savings Plan*
    City of Burnsville*
    City of Olathe*
    Clausen Miller PC
    Crystal Run Village, Inc*
    Delta Apparel
    Discovery Benefits*
    Dr. Trailer Repair, Inc.
    Employer-Teamsters Local Nos. 175 & 505 Health and Welfare Fund
    Entrust
    Fabri-Quilt
    GC Harvesting, Inc.
    Glen Curtis, Inc. #2143
    Heritage Christian Services
    IBEW Local 3 NYC Electrical Division Health & Welfare Fund
    Indiana Area UFCW Union Locals and Retail Food Employers' Health and Welfare Plan
    Ingham County
    Innovative Driver Services Company
    Integrity Data*
    Inter-County Hospitalization Plan, Inc.
    Jakov P. Dulcich & Sons
    Jefferson Rehabilitation Center
    JLG Harvesting, Inc.
    Johnson Machine Works
    Kent County
    Laborers' District Council of Virginia Health and Welfare Trust Fund
    Laborers National Health and Welfare Fund
    Local 1245 Health Fund
    Local 237 Teamsters Suffolk Regional Off-Track Betting Corp. Health and Welfare Trust Fund
    Local 295 Welfare Fund
    Local 381 Group Insurance Fund
    Local 805 Welfare Fund
    Marble Industry Trust Fund
    McGregor Schools ISD #4*
    MJ Soffe
    MO-Kan Teamsters and Welfare Fund
    Mounds View Public Schools*
    MVP
    North State Bank
    North States Industries Inc*
    Pathways Inc.
    Pavers and Road Builders District Council Welfare Fund
    Phoenix Children's Academy
    Roofers Local 8 Insurance & Trust Fund
    San Bernardino IHSS Public Authority
    SCC Healthcare Group, LLP
    Schenectady ARC*
    Schoharie County ARC*
    Sieben Polk Law Firm
    Sitel, Inc.
    Southern Graphic Communication Health Fund
    Springbrook Standalone HRA*
    St. Lawrence NYSARC*
    Sunview Vineyards of California, Inc.
    Tandem Eastern Inc. / Consolidated Transport Systems, Inc.
    Taylor Farms
    Teamsters Union Local # 35
    The Day Care Council/Council of Supervisors and Administrators Welfare Fund
    The Public Authority of San Luis Obispo County
    The University Financing Foundation, Inc.
    The Village of Newark Non-Union Employee Plan*
    Theatrical Stage Employees Local One
    Tuff Shed, Inc.
    U.A. Local 13 & Employers Group Insurance Plan*
    UFCW & Participating Food Industry Employers Tri-State Health & Welfare Fund
    UFCW Local 1500 Welfare Fund
    UFCW Local One Health Care Fund
    Ulster Greene ARC*
    Westminster-Canterbury of Lynchburg
    Wine and Liquor Salesmen of NJ
    A-1 Transport
    AIDS Council of Northeastern New York
    Avon Central School District
    Azeros Health Plans, Inc.*
    Benton County*
    Bessey Tools, Inc.
    Canandaigua City Schools*
    City of Eagan*
    City of Shakopee Post-Employment Health Care Savings Account Plan *
    Community Work and Independence Inc.
    Continuing Developmental Services
    Crystal Cabinet Works, Inc.
    CU*Answers, Inc.
    Euromarket Designs, Inc., d/b/a Crate and Barrel
    First National Bank of Dietrerich
    Franziska Racker Centers*
    Fridley Public Schools Health Savings Plan*
    FSA/SUNYAB-Campus Dining and Shops
    Genesee County ARC*
    Genesee County Economic Development Corp Health Reimbursement Account*
    Grand Island Central School District*
    Hammondsport Central School District
    Imperial Wholesale, Inc.
    Learning Disabilities Association of Western New York
    Minnesota State Retirement System Post-Employment Health Care Savings Plan - City of Roseville*
    Naples Central School District
    Naples Central School District Support Staff
    Newark Central School District
    Niagara-Wheatfield CSD Self Funded
    Panama Central School District
    People 1st Health Strategies, Inc.
    Pipe Fitters' Welfare Fund, Local 597*
    Ron Clark Construction Health reimbursement Arrangement*
    Sherman Central School District
    Silver Creek Central School District*
    Sodus Central School District
    Telco Construction
    Town of Albion
    Town of Chenango
    Town of Lockport
    Twin City Die Casting*
    Western Area Volunteer Emergency Services *
    Westfield Academy*
    Williamson Central School District
    American Radio Association Plan
    Carpenters Health and Security Trust of Western Washington
    Communicare Health Benefits Trust
    District Council 1707 Local 389 Home Care Employees Health & Welfare Fund
    Health and Welfare Plan of the Laundry, Dry Cleaning Workers & Allied Industry Health Fund, Workers United
    Northern Illinois and Iowa Laborers Health and Welfare Fund
    Prell Services
    United Food and Commercial Workers Retail Employees and Employers Health and Welfare Plan
    A-1 Realty*
    AABR*
    ABCO Diecasters*
    Alfred P. Sloan*
    Alizio & Galfunt*
    All American Heating and AC*
    Allied Pilots Association
    Amherst Central School District*
    AristaCare at Meadow Springs*
    Arthur Sanderson& Sons*
    Associated General Contractors of ND Employees*
    Autistic Service, Inc.*
    Bartech Group
    Basf Fuel Cell, Inc.*
    Battery Park City Authority*
    Battery Park City Conservancy*
    Benefit Analysis Inc.*
    Blaze SSI*
    Blue Beacon
    Board of Trustees for the Operating Engineers Local 101 Health and Welfare Fund
    Business Wire*
    Cargo Ventures*
    Carnegie Corporation of NY*
    Carpenters Local No. 491 Health & Welfare Plan
    Central Laborers' Welfare Fund
    Central States, Southeast and Southwest Areas Health and Welfare Fund
    City of Cottage Grove*
    City of Inver Grove Heights*
    City Of Roseville MN*
    Clinton Management*
    Cloquet Area Fire Department*
    Cohen Partners*
    Community Bank of Bergen County*
    Community Mainstreaming*
    Contract Cleaners Service Employees Benefit Trust
    Cornerstone Search Group*
    D & D Ag Supply and Construction, Inc.*
    Dial Senior Management, Inc
    Douglaston Development*
    Dr. Margaret Andrin, MD FACOG LLC*
    Dynasil Corporation*
    Echo Molding*
    Eighth District Electrical Benefit Fund
    Electrical Workers Health and Welfare Fund
    Enterprise Concrete Products, LLC Texas
    Epilepsy Foundation*
    Epilepsy Foundation Northeastern New York*
    Evans Chemetics*
    Excellus Health Plan
    Fairport Central School District*
    Goodwill Industries of Central Indiana
    Gregory Packaging*
    Gulf Coast Health Care
    Handcraft Manufacturing Corporation*
    Haver Analytics Health Waiver*
    Health Care Employees Dental and Medical Trust
    Hiawatha Medical, Inc.*
    Highfield Gardens Care Center*
    Hirsch International*
    Hotel, Restaurant & Bar Employees Health and Welfare Fund
    Hypex Inc.*
    IBEW Local Union No. 126 Health and Welfare Fund
    International Union of Operating Engineers, Supplemental Benefit Fund Local 409*
    Interstate Connecting Components*
    Jacobson Family Investments*
    J-B Wholesale Pet Supplies*
    JKL International*
    Jump, Scutellaro, and Co., LLP*
    KC International dba Ekman Recycling*
    Kerwin Communications*
    Kingstown Capital Management*
    Koellman Gear Corporation*
    Kramer Electronics*
    Lakeview Subacute Care Center*
    Langan Engineering and Financial Services, Inc.*
    LBDD*
    League of Minnesota Cities*
    Leisure Properties LLC d/b/a/ Crownline Boats*
    Liberty House Nursing Home*
    Lifetime Assistance, Inc*
    Lincoln Hall*
    Local 888 UFCW
    Maharishi University of Management
    Mamiya America Corporation*
    Mandt Reiss & Associates PLLC
    Margaret P. Muscarelle Child Dev. Center*
    Merrill Farms LLC
    Micelli Motors, Inc.*
    Midwest Asphalt Corporation *
    Midwest Teamsters
    Monroe County*
    Nassau County Chapter, NYSARC, Inc*
    NCHC, Inc.*
    New York State Assn. for Retarded Children Erie Co. Chapter dba/Heritage Centers*
    NJ Society of CPAs*
    North Greece Fire District*
    Northern Minnesota-Wisconsin Area Retail Food Health & Welfare Fund
    Ogontz Avenue Revitalization Corporation
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    Progressive AE*
    Quadrant Capital Advisors, Inc.*
    Regency Management Group, LLC*
    Rhoads Industries*
    Roofers Local #96 Health & Welfare Fund
    Rowe and Company, Inc.*
    Rush-Henrietta Central School District HRA*
    Security Benefit Fund of the Uniformed Firefighters Association of New York City
    SEIU Health and Welfare fund, 2000
    Seneca Cayuga ARC*
    Service Employees 32BJ North Health Benefit Fund*
    Sierra Video Systems*
    SMEG*
    Strategic Industries*
    Superior Officers Council Health and Welfare Fund
    Teamsters Local Union 966 Health Fund
    Techno Source USA*
    The Alternative Living Group, Inc.*
    The Arc of Otsego (Otsego County Chapter NYSARC, Inc.)*
    The Arc of Rensselaer County*
    The City of Cloquet*
    The Henry Luce Foundation*
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    The Pew Charitable Trusts*
    The Rehabilitation Center*
    The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation*
    Topco*
    Totino Grace High School*
    Urstadt Biddle Properties*
    W.H. Reaves & Co., Inc.*
    Walder, Hayden & Brogan, PA*
    Walters-Morgan Construction, Inc.
    Wellspring Advisors*
    West Bergen Mental Healthcare*
    Westchester ARC*
    Westchester JCS*
    Western Beef*
    Hollow Metal Trust Fund
    Theatrical Teamsters Local 817 IBT Welfare Fund
    Vestal Manufacturing Enterprises, Inc.
    AccessAbility, Inc.
    Ackerman Oil Employee Benefit Trust
    Albany County Chapter, NYSARC Inc., DBA New Visions of Albany*
    American Eagle Outfitters
    Basin Disposal
    Bengard Ranch, Inc.
    Bestway Rental, Inc
    Big Lots, Inc.
    Byrd Harvest, Inc.
    Cardinal Hayes Home for Children HRA plan*
    CDS Administrative Services, LLC
    Center for Energy and Environment*
    City of Brooklyn Park*
    D'Arrigo Bros. Co. of California
    Defender Services, Inc.
    DineEquity, Inc
    Green Leaf Distributors, Inc.
    IBEW Local Union No. 728 Family Healthcare Plan
    Joseph Gallo Farms
    Life Benefit Plan
    Luther Automotive Group HRA*
    Metrics Inc.
    Nueces County Appraisal District
    Ocean Properties Ltd
    P-R Farms, Inc.
    SEIU Health & Welfare Fund
    Sports Arena Employees' Local 137 Welfare Fund
    Staywell Saipan Basic Plan
    Truck Drivers and Helpers Local 355 Health and Welfare Fund
    Communications Workers of America, Local 1180 Security Benefits Fund
    Health and Welfare Fund of the Detectives' Endowment Association, Inc. Police Department City of New York
    Man-U Service Contract Health and Welfare Fund
    Paschall Truck Lines, Inc.
    SEIU Local 300, Civil Service Forum Employees Welfare Fund
    Electrical Welfare Trust Fund
    Highmark West Virginia Inc. d/b/a Mountain State Blue Cross Blue Shield
    Advocacy and Resource Center*
    Amalgamated, Industrial and Toy & Novelty Workers of America, Local 223 Sick Benefit Fund
    Atlanta Plumbers & Steamfitters Fringe Benefit Funds
    Aurora Consulting Group, Inc.*
    Brock Enterprises, Inc.
    Central Texas Health and Benefit Trust Fund Locals 520, 60 & 72
    Electricians Health, Welfare & Pension Plans I.B.E.W. Local Union No. 995
    Essex County Chapter NYSARC, Inc. dba Mountain Lake Services*
    Executive Management Services, Inc.
    Florida Laborers Health Fund
    Fulton County Chapter NYSARC, Inc.*
    General Parts, LLC*
    Greystone program, Inc*
    Hacienda Harvesting, Inc.
    IBEW Local No. 640 and Arizona Chapter NECA Health & Welfare Trust Fund
    Lone Star Park at Grand Prairie
    Louisiana Electrical Health Fund
    Maverick, Inc. Employee Health Care Benefits Plan
    Memphis Construction Benefit Fund
    Mid-South Carpenters Regional Council Health and Welfare Fund
    Mountain Lake Services
    NECA-IBEW Local 480 Health and Welfare Plan
    Plumbers and Pipefitters Welfare Fund of Local Union No. 719
    Retiree Plan of the Central States, Southeast and Southwest Areas Health and Welfare Fund
    Richmond Community Services*
    Sheet Metal Workers Local No. 177 Health and Welfare, Pension and Vacation Funds
    Sheet Metal Workers' National Health Fund
    South Central Laborers' Health & Welfare Fund
    Southeastern Pipetrades Health & Welfare Fund
    Telamon Corporation Health Reimbursement Arrangement*
    The ARC of Delaware County*
    UFCW Local 1262 and Employers Health & Welfare Fund
    United Cerebral Palsy of Ulster County, Inc*
    Vincent B Zaninovich & Sons, Inc.
    Wayne ARC Standalone HRA Section 105 Plan*
    Wildwood Program*
    Allied Welfare Fund
    Becker County Post-Retirement Health Care Savings Plan*
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    Goodwill Industries of Kentucky, Inc.
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    Robert Heath Trucking Inc
    Securitas Security Services USA, Inc.
    Sunwest Fruit Company, Inc
    The Louis Berger Group, Inc.
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    WD Young& Sons, Inc.
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    Anderson Media Corporation
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    Cement and Concrete Workers District Council Welfare Fund Plan
    COARC*
    Construction Workers Local 147 Welfare Fund
    Crystal Run Healthcare
    Diamondback Management Services, LTD
    Freeman Metal Products
    Hardwick Clothes, Inc.
    Hronis, Inc.
    International Union of Bricklayers & Allied Craftworkers
    Isaacson Isaacson Seridan & Fountain, LLP
    Katy Industries, Inc.
    Landscape, Irrigation and Lawn Sprinkler Industry Health and Welfare Plan and Trust
    Local 298 Health Benefit Fund Plan
    Local 803 Health and Welfare Fund
    Louisiana Laborers Health and Welfare Fund
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    Maple Knoll Communities
    Marshall Durbin Food Corporation
    Minnesota Teamsters Construction Division
    Name Brand, Inc.
    Oklahoma Goodwill Industries
    PepsiCo, Inc
    Plumbers & Pipefitters Local Union 823 Health & Welfare Fund
    Plumbers & Steamfitters Local No. 6 Health and Welfare Fund
    Regent Care Center
    Rice Food Markets, Inc.
    Rice Food Markets, Inc.
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    Southwestern Teamsters Security Fund
    Teamsters Local 445 Welfare Plan
    Teamsters Local 210 Affiliated Health and Insurance Fund
    Teamsters Welfare Fund of Northern New Jersey Local 1723
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    Town of Frisco Medical Plan
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    AJFC Community Action Plan**
    Altisource Portfolio Solutions
    American Heritage Life Insurance Company
    Americare Properties, Inc.
    AMN Healthcare
    Andrews Transport L.P.**
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    APWU Health Plan Conversion Plan
    Aspen Snowmass**
    ATCO Rubber Products, Inc
    Baylor County Hospital District
    Belk Farms**
    Bricklayers Local 1 of MD, VA and DC
    Cardon & Associates, Inc**
    Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Ogdensburg
    Central Mills**
    Civil Service Bar Association Security Benefit Fund**
    Cotton Belt Inc.**
    CPC Logistics Health & Welfare Plan**
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    Dole Food Company**
    EchoStar**
    First Acceptance Corporation
    Fontanese Folts Aubrecht Ernst Architects, PC**
    Forest Products Inc. Group Health Plan**
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    Helfman Enterprises, Inc.**
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    TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
    KEYWORDS: exemptcompanies; obamacare
    Here is a list of most of the companies that applied for and received exemptions from Obamacare. The original list was removed from the http://cciio.cms.gov/ website.

    I will not be doing business with any company that doesn't want to share in our new found prosperity. (I need that money to fund my new obligations to the government)

    Let's make all the exempt companies foot the bill for our news taxes!
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    You must have missed the part about the pardons being handed out (in order to keep civil obedience down)? The list is...quite impressive...and sickening, as the exemptions are nearly all politically tied...and to prevent blowback:
    No miss, lol. One man cannot list them all. Thanks for the backup. Holy smokes.

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    Ah!!! Selectivity...in a capitalism based society. Makes sense, right?
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    CIGNA, Aetna, and BCS? WTH?
    2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)

    Try SCE to AUX
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    CIGNA, Aetna, and BCS? WTH?
    Does anyone even want to bring up AARP? (only people who pay attention will get this)
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    Ah!!! Selectivity...in a capitalism based society. Makes sense, right?
    Please continue to live in your own little competitive world. Matters not to me. Makes sense, right?
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    We should all just STFU and count our lucky stars! We should all be thankful!!! Thanksgiving is coming up, no? With the enlightened and comprehensively 'in touch' with the American people administration that we have for the next 4 years, we've got nothing but brighter days ahead of us! Just think, by Thanksgiving of 2016 we can all be eating a fried rat and delighting in the economic miracle that has transpired over the past 4 years, right before our very eyes!
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    Originally Posted by paolo59 View Post
    We should all just STFU and count our lucky stars! We should all be thankful!!! Thanksgiving is coming up, no? With the enlightened and comprehensively 'in touch' with the American people administration that we have for the next 4 years, we've got nothing but brighter days ahead of us! Just think, by Thanksgiving of 2016 we can all be eating a fried rat and delighting in the economic miracle that has transpired over the past 4 years, right before our very eyes!
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    Here are some more layoffs.


    1. Westinghouse
    2. Research in Motion
    3. Boeing
    4. US Cellular
    5. Commerzbank
    6. Iberia

    7. ING
    8. Ericsson
    9. Bristol-Myers
    10. Corning
    11. Boston Scientific
    12. Abbott Labs
    13. St. Jude
    14. Caterpillar
    15. CVPH Medical Center
    16. Lightyear Haqwker Beechcraft
    17. Hawker Beechcraft (also closing facilities)
    18. Pepsi
    19. Groupon
    20. Energizer
    21. Lightyear Network Solutions
    22. Providence Journal
    23. Momentive Performance Materials
    24. Gameforge Berlin
    25. Vestas Wind Systems
    26. Husqvarna
    27. SRA International
    28. PerkinElmer
    29. Majestic Star Casino & Hotel
    30. Center for Hospice New York
    31. Lower Bucks Hospital
    32. Oce North America
    33. United Blood Services Gulf
    34. Atlantic Lottery Corporation
    35. Welch Allyn
    36. Dana Holding
    37. Stryker
    38. Medtronic
    39. Smith & Nephew
    40. Covidien
    41. Kinetic Concepts
    42. Hill Rom
    43. Darden Restaurants
    44. JANCOA
    45. Kroger
    46. Alcatel-Lucent
    47. Umatilla Chemical
    48. Rocketdyne
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Has a nice ring to it doesn't it?
    The only ring I see in it is the brown ring around a pig's ass.

    No offence to you, BH. It is quite obvious to me that you have worked hard for what you have achieved.

    Make no mistake. This is not a "race issue" to me. I would have voted for Herman Cain without reservation.
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