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    also mr cementpizza, i will rep you out of consideration of your neg. don't let the internet russle dem jimmies brah.
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    The issue with UFC is that there is a damn fight every other week it seems like. If they had longer periods between fights with some deserving contenders for title fights that would make it much more better.

    Dana White has forgotten that anticipation will raise a lot more interest, and a lot more money.
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    Originally Posted by CementPizza View Post
    And I look nothing like that. You mad?
    nah bro. you have 30k posts on a bb forum everyone fully believes you an elite fighting master

    what blows my mind is how you have the time to post in between your dojo training and 50 mile sprint sessions
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    Originally Posted by Robochrist View Post
    nah bro. you have 30k posts on a bb forum everyone fully believes you an elite fighting master

    what blows my mind is how you have the time to post in between your dojo training and 50 mile sprint sessions
    I never claimed any of that have I? Nope. I was an average fighter when I fought. I did enjoy it thought. I haven't posted on the misc in a while though. I've been away for a bit.

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    also mr cementpizza, i will rep you out of consideration of your neg. don't let the internet russle dem jimmies brah.
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    o well
    its not like boxing is doing any better
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    Originally Posted by Robochrist View Post
    nah bro. you have 30k posts on a bb forum everyone fully believes you an elite fighting master

    what blows my mind is how you have the time to post in between your dojo training and 50 mile sprint sessions
    fukkin lol.

    No need to be mean to cement pizza though, we all have different perspectives
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    Joe Rogan is knowledgeable but I personally find him pretty annoying to listen to. I prefer Kenny Florian as a commentator since he's not as excitable but still knows what he's on about.
    The other thing that annoys me about UFC is the whole lose 2 or 3 fights and get cut bullchit. I think this is one of the reasons a lot of fights have been pretty boring recently(with a few exceptions).
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    Nah, they'll probably start bringing in more women and having bra fights and stuff. They'll sell out to save themselves.
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    Originally Posted by blink702 View Post
    lmao so wrong on every level...joe rogan is an idiot and is loved by the UFC weekend warrior fans...hes very biased and is annoying to listen to. Goldie is just as good as calling fights as rogan...rogans experience is just as much as any miscers with MMA fighting/practicing...he juiced, rolled around a few times with some BJJ guys and you think hes good or some****.
    already beaten to it but Rogan was a TKD national champion and is a BJJ black belt...so yeah
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    Originally Posted by Fanatik View Post
    o well
    its not like boxing is doing any better
    lolwut? just cause you dont watch it doesnt means its doing bad

    ive been saying for a while ufc is dead. They put on so many **** cards, dana white hurts them more than helps them

    brb blaming a fighter for having the card being cancelled
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    Originally Posted by CLEAN_SET_OF_10 View Post
    I tend to agree. UFC peaked in 08/09, Dana's inability to put the superfights together has hurt the sport lately (silva GSP) (silva shogun) (silva jones)

    The talent is spread too thin over too many cards that are all $60+

    Nobody cares about the weight classes under LW, just because its a Flyweight titlefight does not mean you can slack on the rest of the card's talent and get away with it, HW, LHW, MW, WW, maybe but not under LW.

    Rogan is outdated and annoying. When fans boo he acts personally insulted, and goes on a tirade on what true MMA fans should want to see. Sorry, but the fact is casual fans are the main part of your business model moving forward, and to appeal to casual fans you need to do better than a 5 round hug fest. In fact, their entire live production feels outrageously outdated. They need a drastic change to their business model and production quality, and make the big fights everyone wants to see happen. Even consider changing the rules, implement a play clock for ground game. People will initially complain the UFC will be too far removed from real fighting if a ground game play clock is implemented but the truth is it already IS very far removed from real fighting.

    UFC turned into a combat sport a long time ago and we all know combat sports and fighting is like comparing apples to oranges.
    Agree, except Rogan is the UFC. If he leaves UFC loses viewers guaranteed.
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    good man.
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    I'll admit it isn't the same to me as it was 09-10

    But some of the shiz said in this thread is just facepalm worthy
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    Originally Posted by CLEAN_SET_OF_10 View Post
    I tend to agree. UFC peaked in 08/09, Dana's inability to put the superfights together has hurt the sport lately (silva GSP) (silva shogun) (silva jones)

    The talent is spread too thin over too many cards that are all $60+

    Nobody cares about the weight classes under LW, just because its a Flyweight titlefight does not mean you can slack on the rest of the card's talent and get away with it, HW, LHW, MW, WW, maybe but not under LW.

    Rogan is outdated and annoying. When fans boo he acts personally insulted, and goes on a tirade on what true MMA fans should want to see. Sorry, but the fact is casual fans are the main part of your business model moving forward, and to appeal to casual fans you need to do better than a 5 round hug fest. In fact, their entire live production feels outrageously outdated. They need a drastic change to their business model and production quality, and make the big fights everyone wants to see happen. Even consider changing the rules, implement a play clock for ground game. People will initially complain the UFC will be too far removed from real fighting if a ground game play clock is implemented but the truth is it already IS very far removed from real fighting.

    UFC turned into a combat sport a long time ago and we all know combat sports and fighting is like comparing apples to oranges.
    Couldn't have said it better myself. And I've been a fan of the sport since the early 00's.
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    would rather watch MMA over boxing any day still.
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    1. Dana pay the fighters more money = more talented athletes would try their hands at MMA and the Ultimate Fighter shows won't have shiitty fighters

    2. lower the amount of events, make the events more high quality and give fans what they pay for with the occasional title fight on free tv (fox)

    3. make super fights when the fighters are in their prime, how long have we wanted to see silva vs gsp? fuk their "credibility as kings of their division", people would rather watch p4p fghters go at it
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    Originally Posted by KingYing View Post
    I'll admit it isn't the same to me as it was 09-10

    But some of the shiz said in this thread is just facepalm worthy
    to me their entire event layout has not been able to match any of prides epic grand prix's. brb OPEN WEIGHT tournament. hhngggghhhhhhhh.
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    wrestling killed the ufc. got tired of watching the lay and pray (jon fitch).
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    Originally Posted by CementPizza View Post
    It's definitely on the decline. This "fastest growing sport" nonsense is a flat out lie. It has far less viewers and many of the sports bar owners I know don't carry the crappy ppv's any more. It's a sport who's core demo = 24 year old douche bags who are arrested adolescents and have the emotional maturity of 12 year olds. MMA is never even mentioned on sports radio. It's a non factor in the sports world.

    Good bye MMA.

    Dana White**** took what could have been cool and filled it with douche bags, makeup and *******ry.
    this. I remember months ago when miscers with a hardon for MMA were saying it's going to surpass boxing soon. I laughed in their faces. MMA is nothing more than marketing. All these tv shows and documentaries are also completely unnecessary when only 500 people know these fighters. It's only big on the internet. No one IRL gives two ****s about MMA. The fact that an announcer, who releases podcasts about spirituality for an audience of 22yo male college students , is the most well known personality in this sport, only confirms what a joke it is.
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    wrestling killed the ufc. got tired of watching the lay and pray (jon fitch).
    last time i will mention pride since it is becomming somewhat annoying probably, but knee strikes to the head on the ground as well as footstomps to the head made the ground game A LOT more exciting to people who either do not train and don't know about the amount of fatigue/strategy that is involved when grappling, and also to those who fight and are professional fighters. more weapons you can utalize, more knockout opportunities, more realistic fighting.
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    Originally Posted by Admos View Post
    I think if the UFC did cards focusing on a specific weight class it would be much more entertaining and watchable for the casual fan.

    Example.

    Have two/three major Light Heavy Cards a year. 6/4 months apart. Showcase the best of the division and have a title fight/interim title fight each card.

    This will accomplish several things
    1) Viewers can evaluate all of the major players in a given weight class in one night. This will be way easier for a casual fan to figure out who he likes in a given weight class and who they want to see in the next title fight for that weight.
    2) All the fighters in that weight class are on the same timeline. No one has more/less rest. In the event of an injury the next man in line will be ready to step up, as will the guy behind him.
    3) Several major fights (Title fight, contender fight) could always be set up for the next card based off the performance in the previous card for that class.
    4) It would have more of a tournament feel and flow to it from card to card.

    The UFC kind of does this from time to time, but never really commits to it. It may be too hard to coordinate with so many injuries and schedule conflicts.

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    Originally Posted by NoCauseRebel View Post
    last time i will mention pride since it is becomming somewhat annoying probably, but knee strikes to the head on the ground as well as footstomps to the head made the ground game A LOT more exciting to people who either do not train and don't know about the amount of fatigue/strategy that is involved when grappling, and also to those who fight and are professional fighters. more weapons you can utalize, more knockout opportunities, more realistic fighting.
    even though this is a big reason i loved pride, i don't think that would do good for casual viewers.

    too brutal man. plus less fighters will want to get in MMA because of fear of concussions.
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    Originally Posted by Z49 View Post
    I've said this before and was taunted for it, but the reason mma will never be a major sport is because most people see the fighters as barefoot neanderthals. That's the truth. Name any major sport where the particpants are bare foot?
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    Originally Posted by jono28613 View Post
    couldnt care less

    always thought

    boxing> ufc
    boxing? boxing hasn't been relevant in over 20 years.

    UFC is just an organization, the sport is of Mixed Martial Arts.


    I 100% disagree with the OP, they break payperview records all the time and the reality show isn't very relevant to begin with. lol they still make a hell of a lot more money than any other sporting event, next to nascar which is incredible popular.
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    I've been an MMA fan every since I saw UFC 1 and to me, the best times were probably 02-06ish, when sakuraba was murdering people, fedor was dominating, and every pride card seemed amazing.
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    Fighting sports need a thriving heavyweight division to be popular. Obviously that's not going on right now. Injuries this year have made me lose interest almost completely. Light heavyweight sucks because jon jones made every fighter in that division look like a child
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    Originally Posted by Smiles9 View Post
    The only fights that fans really want to see are superfights and will be at catchweights (Silva vs. GSP, Silva vs. Jones) after that it's all over.
    That what every fighting league is about, how is mma different? Boxing no one gives a fuk unless its a super fight
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