A rectangle is constructed with its base on the diameter of a semicircle with radius 5 cm and with two vertices on the semicircle. What are the dimensions of the rectangle with maximum area?
I'm guessing the picture is just a regular rectangle with one side being attached to a semicircle.
I'm having problems with figuring out what/how is my constraint going to look like? First I wrote it in terms of the perimeter on the semicircle, then the rectangle, and now I just have no idea. I wrote the area function as A(x) = xy.
Has anyone done this one before? The answer in the book says 10/root2 cm by 5/root2 cm.


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I didn't think of that but I'll try it. I suck at optimization problems that don't clearly give you the constraint. Like this other one says that the perimeter of 3 fences is 200 meters, that's easy, but this one just gives you the radius of a semicircle attached to a rectangle, wtf cuz...
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10312012, 04:40 PM #5
currently doing this problem in calculus
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actually idk but the hint i can give u is the area of the semi circle is [5 pie] idk about the rectangle tho x should be 10 but the question doesn't seem clear enough to discover the Y. All of my problems specifically say the x and y boundaries are bound by blah blah blahLast edited by 1thPost; 10312012 at 04:50 PM.

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also brah, a quick google search gave me the following link
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question...3102326AACStfk
the question 19 seems to be identical to your problem, take a look at it, might help
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let x and y be the sides of the rectangle
its easy to see that (r)^2 = x^2 + y^2 eq(1) where r is the radius of the semicircle
the area of the retacngle is A=xy eq(2)
we know that y=sqrt(r^2)x^2) from(1)
(1)>(2)
A=x*sqrt(r^2)x^2)
A=sqrt(x^2(r^2)x^4)
sqrt(x^2(r^2)x^4)
A is now a A(x) , A is max when sqrt(x^2(r)^2)x^4) is max and sqrt(x^2(r^2)x^4) is max when x^2(r^2)x^4 is max
f(x)=x^2(r^2)x^4
f'(x)=2(r^2)x 4x^3 =0 (we want max value)
4x^2=2(r^2)
x^2=2(r^2)/3=2(r^2)/3
x=sqrt(2/4)*r=sqrt(2)*r/2
wich is the max value of side x...now u get max area.
if you are a calculus student justification is a bit more complex , you'd have to analize the graph of the function A(x) and justify that the value x=sqrt(2)*r/2 is not just a local maximum (it has to be a global maximum , but remember the problems restrictions.)
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Whenever they are asking for the max/min of something, it's all about setting the derivative to 0.
What you need to do is find the derivative of A(x) = 2*x*y, set it equal to 0, and solve for x. Perhaps, you're confused because there are two variables?
No worries. Write y in terms of x. Equation of a circle is x^2+y^2 = 25 > y = sqrt(25x^2). Great! Now, we can take the derivative of A(x) = 2x(25x^2)^(1/2).
When you set d[A(x)]/dx = 0, and solve for x, you get x = 5/sqrt(2). Substitute that back into y = sqrt(25x^2), and you also get y = 5/sqrt(2). To bet the base, you multiply x by 2 since the rectangle will span two quadrants. Now you get 10/sqrt(2) by 5/sqrt(2) with an area of 25.

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