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    Originally Posted by mfin23 View Post
    Heard magnesium was good for muscle building so I supplement that. Now vitamin D is a whole other story. Apparently tons of men are deficient and low vitamin D levels lead to low test, depression, bad sleep, and cancer. Ever since supplementing with it I've felt so much better. Highly reccomend (don't forget I live In a city with many rainy days)
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    If you're getting natural sunlight during the day you won't need to supplement with vitamin d. But if you're an office worker like me you'll need it.
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    Originally Posted by Phal4nx View Post
    If you're getting natural sunlight during the day you won't need to supplement with vitamin d. But if you're an office worker like me you'll need it.
    Or an average miscer that doesnt leave the house
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    We really need a nutritionist/biochemist to add to the discussion. Can our bodies absorb all these extra vitamins/minerals that we are taking in pill form? I understand some people have deficiencies , but 100 mg of zinc daily.. really? What ever happened to eating a solid diet.

    And dont take zinc, ZMA , and or most pills on an empty stomach. Youll feel like sh*t.
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    Originally Posted by Phal4nx View Post
    If you're getting natural sunlight during the day you won't need to supplement with vitamin d. But if you're an office worker like me you'll need it.
    No one gets sun these days
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    Originally Posted by SubFocus View Post
    We really need a nutritionist/biochemist to add to the discussion. Can our bodies absorb all these extra vitamins/minerals that we are taking in pill form? I understand some people have deficiencies , but 100 mg of zinc daily.. really? What ever happened to eating a solid diet.

    And dont take zinc, ZMA , and or most pills on an empty stomach. Youll feel like sh*t.
    I take it an hour or so after dinner
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    Originally Posted by ReviveTheWorld View Post
    Brah I am also taking it but 2000 UI should I up it I have low vit d levels not feeling anyting atm

    Would 6000 UI be to much or is it safe
    I'm no doctor so I can't reccomend you to do anything. But studies have shown that you need to intake huge amounts (was it 100,000Iu??) everyday for like 5 months to get toxicity.
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    i can confirm, zinc is magic

    does anyone know if Zinc Amino Acid Chelate is good?
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    Originally Posted by mfin23 View Post
    I'm no doctor so I can't reccomend you to do anything. But studies have shown that you need to intake huge amounts (was it 100,000Iu??) everyday for like 5 months to get toxicity.
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    so OP just confirmed his effects were placebo? lol
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    Originally Posted by huyy View Post
    i can confirm, zinc is magic

    does anyone know if Zinc Amino Acid Chelate is good?
    just looked at my zinc and mine is the same, i googled it and apparently its just zinc bonded with amino acids so it can be absorbed better, so im assuming its good.
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    Originally Posted by OliBrah View Post
    Placebo of peace
    This.

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    Originally Posted by OliBrah View Post
    Placebo of peace
    It's not.

    There's plenty of science indicating what it does. Obviously, it won't work if you have a zinc rich diet, but how many really do?
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    Originally Posted by Yaaaaaabuddy View Post
    This.

    Loling at "combine zinc and no fap for god mode"
    Uhm, no.
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    You zinc brahs should just take ZMA before bed. Best forms of zinc and magnesium available.
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    I really don't see why people take all these ridiculous supplements in an attempt to "boost" their testosterone.

    Clomid raises your test by 50% (by far the most powerful testosterone "booster") and most people feel no effect at all from it.

    If you don't have low T, you will not feel any differences from supplementation unless you boost it to waaaaay supraphysiological range (i.e. cell tech).
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    Scientific studies

    n 2004, a study funded by a research grant from Cytodyne (another supplement producing company) with 42 resistance trained males showed that ZMA supplementation had no significant effects on total and free testosterone, IGF-1, growth hormone, cortisol, the ratio of cortisol to testosterone, or muscle and liver enzymes in response to training. No significant effects were observed in changes in strength, upper or lower body muscle endurance, or anaerobic sprint capacity

    In another study done in 2006, a team of German scientists conducted a study on the effect of ZMA and testosterone levels in the body.[4] The result showed an increase in zinc secretions in urine making it much darker like blood, but no effect on the level of testosterone in the body.
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    Originally Posted by Phal4nx View Post
    What does it say on the bottle for ingredients?

    Victor Conte says that Zinc Monomethionine / Aspartate are the most effective forms of zinc. And that others aren't potent enough.
    I thought zinc picolinate was?
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    I take zma before bed on an empty stomach.


    I feel like bear mode brahs. That and n fap are great for my test levels I feel.
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    You'd have to see the sample characteristics of the study.

    Did the test subjects have a zinc rich diet and then were given more zinc? If so, it would do nothing.

    Supplements are here to SUPPLEMENT your diet when you're likely missing substances. I'm a meso type and don't need to eat much to grow and maintain muscle so there is NO WAY I'm getting all the nutrients my large frame needs. I take large amounts of fish oil because I get NO omega 3s on a daily basis, and I'm not eating zinc daily, and I get little iodine, and god knows what else, so I supp.

    Basically, most non-ecto bodybuilders are in an anorexic state (not the crazy kind) and need vitamins to have optimal health. If you did a study on a person who eats a lot and has variety, then the results will be nothing.
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    so whats the verdict? At the very least i need to supplement these two i barely get enough of both.

    which Zinc supplement do you guys recommend?

    and

    Vitamin D supplement?
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    Originally Posted by Roflcopterbro View Post
    so whats the verdict? At the very least i need to supplement these two i barely get enough of both.

    which Zinc supplement do you guys recommend?

    and

    Vitamin D supplement?
    Optimum Nutrition ZMA and any vitamin D is fine.
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    i take 30mg of zinc every day
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    I work night shift and rarely get sunlight. I drink a lot of vitamin d milk tho will that do? Drink like 5 cups of milk daily.

    On Topic with zinc I saw somebody said its good for the skin, does it help with stretch marks?
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    as an apprentice shaman, i suggest eating Oysters, rich in Zinc & Copper, and protons... with little calories.

    also from my knowledge, nothing helps with stretch marks, but foods rich in vitamin A & E should as much as it can be helped.
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    took zinc every night after dinner for two months, didnt feel **** srs
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    Originally Posted by The_Assassin View Post
    so OP just confirmed his effects were placebo? lol

    just read through thread and this is pretty much what happened
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    Originally Posted by ReviveTheWorld View Post
    only bad thing is I feel a sensation in my heart, sort of feels heavy like a min after taking it. I feel the same way with ephiderene

    next morning felt like king, don't know about vivid dreams don't even remember.

    felt so fukkin good, gonna start taking it with copper and magnesium atm im at 50mg of zinc
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