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    Looking to try new pre workout

    Hey guys, I've been using white flood extensively and love it but I'm looking to try something new that sits reasonably in the same price range.

    I've seen a lot of great stuff about DS Craze but also a lot of controversial things.

    Such as the drug like effects from it, questionable legal amphetamine content, new vs old formulas etc. can anyone aware me on what's going on with this?

    As well as suggest some nice pre workouts that are non arginine containing?
    I was considering nano vapor by MT as well since I've never tried anything with yohimbe in it
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    Originally Posted by luxor92 View Post
    Hey guys, I've been using white flood extensively and love it but I'm looking to try something new that sits reasonably in the same price range.

    I've seen a lot of great stuff about DS Craze but also a lot of controversial things.

    Such as the drug like effects from it, questionable legal amphetamine content, new vs old formulas etc. can anyone aware me on what's going on with this?

    As well as suggest some nice pre workouts that are non arginine containing?
    I was considering nano vapor by MT as well since I've never tried anything with yohimbe in it
    just try it out craze, since you are new to craze, you could try out the new flavor if you like, the ones saying the new flavor is not working, is because they were on the grape flavor, and their body adapted to the grape flavor...
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    A lot of people on here like craze. There are a BUNCH of good preworkouts on here, stimmed and non-stimmed. Just depends which one you want to try.
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    Any experience with nano vapor?
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    Animal Rage is one of the most consistent energy/aggression boosting preworkouts I've used (and I've used a lot).

    I haven't done a side by side comparison from a price standpoint but, with 44 servings (one serving is still plenty even at the bottom of the tub), it is easy to justify the purchase for me.
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    Just looked into animal rage, could its great success be possibly due to B-phenyethlamine? It does look like a good price per serving and I don't think I'd need to take more than one at a time. Seems powerful
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    San Fierce Domination or iForce Max Intense+Hemavol.
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    One of my buddies uses muscle marinade by purus labs and he says it the best he ever used. The last one I got was pump fix by ams. I regret it even though I got it cheap
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    Recently I've used Animal Rage and Craze. The Rage I used is in the capsule packets not the powder, so that might make a difference. It's decent, but doesn't last very long. Craze gives me a good amount of energy, but no jitters. Only downside to Craze is how long it lasts, which is a LONG time. If I take two scoops at 3pm (serving size is 1-2 scoops), I'll be awake and focused until 1am. Since I normally lift after 6pm, I don't get the full benefit from it since I can't take it that late or I'll be up all night. I've never been big on preworkout energy supplements, but when I first tried Axis Labs Smash a few years ago it was amazing how crazy wired it made me. I can honestly say that stuff put Rage and Craze to shame in my experience.
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    Animal Rage has worked well for me. The new Jack3d Micro isn't all that bad, but I don't think it is really up there on anyone's list. I have tried Craze once and it seemed to lock me into my workout pretty well.
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    You could check out brx from force factor, feels similar to white flood.
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    There are a TON of great one's on the market right now. Check out the following:


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    Thank you all for the ideas. I think I'll test out craze next, see how t effects me.
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    Real quick, for those of u with good reviews on craze.. What flavor and when. Like, I heard grape and the berry one don't share the same formula controversy. I kinda want what people said the grape did to them
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    NeuroSurge is another great option!

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    There are a ton of options out there. I recommend you get samples from as many companies as you can and pick your favorite. My preference is Kotic by AAEFX. Its never let me down! You can use the link in my sig to get a free sample! I will advise that if you are not use to stimulants only use half a serving first to access tolerance. Good luck with your search!
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    I've really enjoyed K-OTIC as well. 300 mg. caffeine per scoop, but you could use half to make the bottle last longer and would work just fine!
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