I do the same thing with beef, bison and venison, it's damn tasty faire.
In other news, it's not fit for man ner beast outside, good gawd it's pouring and I got a taste for steak and the pups are telling me it's chewy bone night too so looks like the Gorton's fisherman is gonna be running back and forth in the rain.
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Thread: Fitty's Angling Ramble 7.0
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11-26-2013, 02:32 PM #3511
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11-28-2013, 06:38 AM #3512
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11-28-2013, 07:19 AM #3513
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11-28-2013, 07:32 AM #3514
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11-28-2013, 07:40 AM #3515
I don't have any pics of NY because the trip was so fast and nasty weather. I shot 2 management does, but I missed the biggest buck of my life.
I literally have no clue what the **** happened.
The guy who ran the camp had some special rules and one of them was I can only shoot 180grain bullet I only shoot 130or 150.
Well anyways, I have this monster/mature buck walking down directly towards me from a swap. He then does from me left to my right BROAD SIDE......
I find my shooting lane, he walks in (108 yard shot), boom... and he just skips off......
I searched that swamp 4 hours and didn't find A THING. I was HEATED, so I went right to the range.
I shot 3 shots with those damn 180 grains. I was 6 inches to the left and 6 inches high.... WTF?
I then threw in my 150 grains and shot the center out 3 times..... can anyone even explain this?
Ok, boring part over, lets get to the good stuff. At least I had some meat in the cooler★cVc★
"Hes the reason for the tear drops on my barbell" -jordansrt
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11-28-2013, 07:57 AM #3516
Next I drove to Massachusetts to hunt for a 4 days. I have never hunted this spot before, so I was excited to put my whits to the test going in to a cold area.
The first day I was there I popped in to this funnel I found and climbed up a tree for half the day. Around 3pm I had two doe come within about 80 yards of me and head down the funnel. I was excited to see some deer in the area, but decided to move down 100 yards for the next day.
I woke up the second day and it was 34 degrees and raining.... oh well, I sat in my tree anyways. Around 7:30 that morning I had a doe come in within 46 yards and I decided I wanted to take her (mind you I wanted to kill my first bow deer) well something made me hold off for a second because I wanted to see if I a buck would come in. Two seconds later a fork horn walks in. I was pumped, but pissed at the same time. I had them both at 40-50 yards in brush, one to my left, one to my right, and both were looking at me. Well the doe walked off and he followed her.....
This is when I was getting mad at my bow because I could have taken them both with my rifle oh well
THe doe came back a few minutes later and sat broadside to me at 42 yards for about 30 minutes. You're probably thinking "why the heck didn't he shoot?"
I had a few branches 37 yards into the shot and I am shooting mechanical, not fixed blades... I didn't wanna make a bad shot....
After they left I sat another 3 hours and then decided to go change and pop into a different spot. I popped into this little piece of woods real quick, just to see if I saw anything interesting.
A few yards in, I found a fresh scrap. Then I heard a blow and froze. A spiker was 20 yards away and thought I was a doe in his area. He came walking towards me, but GUESS WHO DIDN'T HAVE HIS BOW!
Anyways... he finally winded me and ran off.
I knew I was in an area with deer and that tomorrow was going to be the day I killed my first bow deer, so I went home prepared.
Weather for the next day was looking amazing and it was going down...
So I wake up at 3:50 Wednesday morning and get ready. I am walking out to my truck to warm her up and guess who forgot his keys at the restaurant the night before......
my sister drove me and my family to a place down the street, I took my keys out and left them on the table.. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu
They also didn't open until 11:30 DOUBLE FUUUUUUU
Ok, fast forward..... I get my keys, fly an hour up to my spot and trudge through the woods, VERY MAD.
I get to my climber and look at my arrows.... I have managed to destroy two of them on my walk to my stand because I wasn't being graceful.
As you can imagine, I was pissed.....
I climb up to the top of my tree, pull up my bow, and then I hear CRACK................
I look behind me and see a deer coming down the funnel. OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!
So now I untie my release, HAVE TO UNTIE the string I pulled the bow up with and tie it to my stand, put in an arrow, and turn around.
Well I turn around and guess who is right under my sniffing me scent bomb......................
I was so impressed how silent this new bow was. I drew back and let my arrow fly.
Mind you this was not an ideal shot and I would not have probably taken it if it wasn't my first chance at a bow deer.
I had to shoot straight down..... I aimed at a way it would hit the artery in the spine and go down taking out the lung/heart. Either or.
Well the arrow hit and I saw an explosion of blood.... I hit the artery I was aiming for and he went 40 feet and I watched him drop.
I sat in my tree stand for about 30 minutes looking at him on the ground just all giddy and pumped. I know he's nothing to brag about it, but I would shoot him 10392380023 more times as a first time bow deer!
I learned so much from this trip and I can't wait to take the bow out again.Last edited by iccyman001; 11-28-2013 at 08:04 AM.
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"Hes the reason for the tear drops on my barbell" -jordansrt
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11-28-2013, 08:02 AM #3517
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11-28-2013, 08:15 AM #3518
Now with our wood stoves we can heat these tents up to 100 easily, so naturally we only burn the best.....
So because we cant hunt on Sundays, we drive around and cut down dead cedar trees, and then a giant assembly team comes out.
I was the nice cousin that let all the underage cousins drive around the Maine backroads in his awesome diesel★cVc★
"Hes the reason for the tear drops on my barbell" -jordansrt
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11-28-2013, 08:18 AM #3519
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11-28-2013, 08:23 AM #3520
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11-28-2013, 08:39 AM #3521
So Monday we were able to finally hunt... I went to my first spot, climbed up my tree and all hell broke loose.....
it poured for 8 hours with 25-35 mph winds.
I sat in my stand all day though and had nothing moving....
Tuesday I went out and it was even worse. It started snowing and we had steady 35mph+ winds the whole time.
I had done some great scouting on sunday though and I knew I was in a great spot, so I was no moving. I kept hearing noise over my right shoulder, but chalked it up to being the wind.
Anyways, about mid day these two came in and decided to bed 65 yards away from me....
they hunkered down for about 50 minutes and then walked off, I love moose.
Anyways, I kept hearing these noises over my right shoulder, but mind you it was WINDY.
SO at about 1500 I decided I was wet and cold enough, that I would go still hunt. I went over in the direction of the noise (because it was on a nice rub line) and found two fresh, warm beds..... the buck was ****ing within 100 yards of me the whole time, but down a little hill... if he would have stepped up 10 more feet I could have seen/shot him....
OH WELL....
I woke up Wednesday morning and it was the same thing, WINDY and snow.... so I decided to go check an old honey hole spot. It's an amazing funnel that always has stuff crossing, well guess what, nothing crossed....
Finally on Thursday, my last day, I caught a break. I went to my ridge again I had been hunting the beginning of the week and decided to get silly.
I brought my grunt and rattling antlers and started going to town.
Within 10minutes I heard the biggest explosion in the world coming from the woods near me and I knew it was a pissed off buck.
WELL the thing was definitely smart, because he did not step out of the woods ( I didn't want to sit in my tree stand this day, I was on the ground)
He finally took off and about 2 hours later, I had another buck come in from a different direction.... he was just a little spiker, so I let him walk.....
SO that was the extent of my hunt. I sent my friend to my ridge the next day and my uncle to my honey hole because they all stayed an extra day.....
my uncle shot a 3.5 year old 8 pointer and my friend shot a 3 pointer on my ridge lol
Oh well, c'est la vi.
Now I am back in New Mexico with 3 deer in the freezer and I am already planning my Oklahoma trips ( I will probably do 2 in December)★cVc★
"Hes the reason for the tear drops on my barbell" -jordansrt
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11-29-2013, 04:00 AM #3522
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icy.....I just figured out you were my cousin.
Great story and pics. Thanks a ton.My current log
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11-29-2013, 06:22 AM #3523
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11-29-2013, 08:53 AM #3524
Unless you plan on putting sabot slugs through a rifled slug barrel, a scope on a shotgun is kind of pointless. Even rifled slugs through a smooth bore barrel are only moderately accurate, at best.
*Not all slug barrels are rifled. Quite a few of them are smooth bore and are considered a slug barrel simply because they are a bit shorter and have iron sights rather than a bead.Bravery and stupidity are often synonymous. So are cowardice and intelligence.
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11-29-2013, 09:35 AM #3525
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11-29-2013, 09:36 AM #3526
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11-29-2013, 11:07 AM #3527
Thank you!
Now I am thinking tonight be your venison chili recipe
Thanks man, I just wish I had another buck to post!!!!! That's why I am lining up my OK hunt. I also want one or two more deer for the freezer!!!
I just started researching about those corse? course? Whatever deer that was you killed. Can I buy over the counter permits for those in AZ or draw?
How do they taste?
Thank you! I am just glad you're a fan of .357s too★cVc★
"Hes the reason for the tear drops on my barbell" -jordansrt
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11-29-2013, 11:54 AM #3528
You can also use this recipe for Rosemary meatloaf for Venison and it is AWESOME.
It's ironic that when planted in the garden Rosemary is basically the ultimate deer deterrent. Then at the same time when cooking rosemary is one of the best herbs to pair with deer meat.
It's as if in real life they sense this and fear a natural chemical reaction if they come in contact with the rosemary bush.
Note: Without sourcing real fresh rosemary this recipe is just a meat based choking hazard. Even if it's the picked and half wilted stuff in the produce section at the grocery store... Just NEVER use weak ass dried rosemary.
Rosemary Meatloaf
Rosemary is one of typically seen as an Italian herb. However there is a place for it in many classic American dishes. Rosemary is a versatile herb that plays well with chicken, lamb, pork, venison and beef.
When cooking with rosemary, bruising the leaves by rubbing them between your thumb and forefinger, before chopping will help release the aromatic flavors. Fresh rosemary is absolutely essential when used in meat dishes. Using dried rosemary is a little bit like coming to the end of a hot date and settling for a handshake instead of a long kiss goodnight. When selecting the beef for this meat loaf, while a lean 90/10 blend will be a bit on the dry side. Using 80/20 ground chuck will give you more flavor and moisture.
Equipment
A large work bowl
A small work bowl
Measuring cups
Slotted broiler pan
Parchment paper
Bread pan
Frying pan
Cutting board
Chef’s knife
Meat Loaf Ingredients
2 Pounds of 80/20 ground beef
1 Large Yellow onion
2 Cloves of garlic, minced
2 Tablespoons olive oil
2 Tablespoons of fresh rosemary, bruised and chopped
2 Tablespoons of fresh oregano, chopped
½ Cup of whole milk
1 Cup bread crumbs
1 Large egg, beaten
1 Teaspoon Salt
1 Teaspoon fresh cracked black pepper
Glaze Ingredients
½ Cup of ketchup
2 Tablespoons of horseradish
2 Tablespoons molasses
2 Tablespoons hoisin sauce
1 Teaspoon stone ground mustard
1 Teaspoon fresh cracked black pepper
½ Teaspoon smoked paprika or old bay
Step 1: In a large fry pan heat 2 tablespoons of olive oil on medium-low heat.
Step 2: Add onions to the pan and sweat them until the onions show a little color.
Step 3: While onions are sweating, add 1 cup of bread crumbs to a large work bowl. Slowly stir in the milk and stir to combine. Allow the work bowl to sit for a few minutes for the bread crumbs to absorb some of the milk. This slurry will help keep the meat loaf moist during cooking.
Step 4: Once the onions show a little color, add the minced garlic to the pan and sweat for 2 more minutes.
Step 5: Add the onions and garlic to the work bowl. Stir to integrate it evenly into the slurry. If there is any available milk that hasn’t been absorbed, feel free to add a little more bread crumbs.
Step 6: Add the egg, rosemary and oregano to the work bowl, stir to incorporate it into the slurry.
Step 7: Add the ground beef, salt and fresh cracked black pepper to the work bowl. You can stir it together with a spoon but really it’s easier to knead the mixture with your hands.
Step 8: Stuff the mixture firmly into a bread loaf pan.
Step 9: Preheat the oven to 350 degrees.
Step 10: Line a slotted broiler pan with parchment paper. Make 1 inch long slits in the parchment paper where it lines up over the slots in the broiler pan. When you turn the meat loaf out onto pan, the excess juices that run off will then be able to slowly drain away after the meat and bread crumbs reach maximum saturation.
Step 11: Turn the loaf pan over onto the parchment paper.
Step 12: Combine all of the glaze ingredients in a small work bowl and stir thoroughly until combined.
Step 13: Slowly pour the glaze onto the center of the meatloaf and spread it with the back of a spoon towards the edges. Allow it to slowly flow over the sides. Use the back of the spoon to paint over any exposed meat. The goal is to get as little glaze as possible on the parchment paper.
Step 14: Put the pan in the oven and roast for 40-45 minutes or until the interior temperature reads 165 degrees on a probe thermometer.
Step 15: When the meat loaf comes out of the oven allow it to rest of 5-7 minutes before gently using a serrated bread knife to cut 1 inch thick slices.
Of course without mashed potatoes meat loaf is just a beef flavored choking hazard. My suggestion is to serve with a garlic mashed potatoes. The secret to a proper garlic mash is to add 2 cloves of whole peeled garlic per pound of potatoes. Boil the garlic with the potatoes and mash them at the same time. Using a potato ricer will make the mashed potatoes silky smooth.
Adding chopped garlic chives or chopped, fresh parsley right before serving will improve the aromatic lilt of the garlic.6'4"
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"There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth: not going all the way, and not starting." The Buddha
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11-29-2013, 01:18 PM #3529
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11-29-2013, 01:20 PM #3530
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11-29-2013, 01:26 PM #3531
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11-29-2013, 01:43 PM #3532
It's not so much about "Good" as it is that without rifling in the barrel the slug comes out and it "Tumbles" instead of spins... So the fine accuracy that a scope is meant to give you proves moot as that Tumble is at best moderately inconsistent.
At the same time having a scope precludes you from using iron sights, which are arguably more accurate at short range... Which you will be taking short range shots when deer hunting with a shotgun anyway.
If you've got a smooth barrel shotgun that can handle both slugs and bird shot, it might be best to take the money you would spend on a scope and instead go to a range and get a feel for how the gun behaves at different distances. The relationship with the weapon will ultimately lead to more long term accuracy than what a scope can give you in the short term.
Now if it was a rifled barrel that only is meant for firing deer slugs... I could see an argument for a scope there. But smooth bore... Nah.6'4"
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"There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth: not going all the way, and not starting." The Buddha
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11-29-2013, 02:04 PM #3533
Plus, 9 times out of 10 if you're shooting a shotgun, it's up close and personal.
Iron sights you are on the target instantly. A scope, unless fixed, you may have to adjust it or waste extra time getting it right.
I agree with everyone else, don't do a scope★cVc★
"Hes the reason for the tear drops on my barbell" -jordansrt
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11-29-2013, 02:12 PM #3534
Yeah with a Rifle at long range I'm okay with doing a little sloppy spotting until I hone in on my target. Embarassed the hell out of myself more than once!
I wouldn't want to have that buck fever pump of adrenaline surging through me when one is up close and I'm trying to find him in the scope.
Speaking of deer...
Driving back from the in-laws yesterday we came across two does that were just standing at the side of the road eating grass. Completely passive and not caring that we were there. My Wife drove by really slow (We took the Minivan) and we were so close if my window had been rolled down I could have punched one in the face with a good lean.
My wife's grandmother was in the back seat with the baby, she's an old country girl and former wilderness survivalist... She says "Nainoa... If you've got a knife and want to kill one now I'll help you gut it and we can hide it in the back!"
And people wonder why, when I go to these family things that I spend all my time with an 84 year old woman and/or a little baby!6'4"
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"There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth: not going all the way, and not starting." The Buddha
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11-29-2013, 02:18 PM #3535
So here is one of those minor moral dilemma questions.
I own 10 acres... around 7 acres is forest.
This past summer there were some wind storms, blew down a few trees.
Two small stands of birch fell in the ditch and I let this sit. Figured I'd saw them up in the spring. My buddy and I have been talking about cutting a bunch of wood from my blow down and standing dead wood and selling them in the paper. There are a lot of guys heating with wood boilers. Nice way to spend a weekend working your ass off and then we'd split the proceeds. Better than letting it rot etc...
Well today some guy came along and he sawed up ever tree that was down in the ditches. Then he stacked it in piles.
Technically it's my wood on my land.
He was in a Ford Festiva, so he had no way of humping it out. I assume he's going to come back at some time with a proper vehicle and take it.
It doesn't really mean much to me. Be nice to add it to the boiler pile, but it wouldn't break my balls. Still the guy never even came and knocked or anything.
I'm thinking about grabbing it and stashing it in the barn tonight. Then play dumb if he ever comes asking?????6'4"
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"There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth: not going all the way, and not starting." The Buddha
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11-29-2013, 02:25 PM #3536
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11-29-2013, 02:30 PM #3537
I'm packing up my hunting gear and making sure my bow is ready.
I am going to leave at midnight and head over the border of OK into a WMA I found that is bow hunting only and 19K acres. It seems like a very diverse area when it comes to terrain and I am excited to go scout this place out. I enjoy going into areas cold and making things happen. I will still hunt/scout/ explore all tomorrow and mark areas that I will visit another time and hunker down.
I will also bring my climber incase I find an awesome area and want to settle down early. I am just hoping it's not tons of people out there tomorrow.★cVc★
"Hes the reason for the tear drops on my barbell" -jordansrt
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11-29-2013, 02:35 PM #3538
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11-29-2013, 02:43 PM #3539
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11-30-2013, 12:34 AM #3540
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