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    Somebody aware me on why I government harasses diary farmers for selling raw milk??

    I went to the farmers to buy raw milk. First time I've bought it and holy **** I could buy crack easier.
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    Originally Posted by grace_ou View Post
    Somebody aware me on why I government harasses diary farmers for selling raw milk??

    I went to the farmers to buy raw milk. First time I've bought it and holy **** I could buy crack easier.
    It's an FDA thing. Technically you're only supposed to be able to drink raw milk from animals you raised yourself. If the Farmer sells you the milk raw and direct the FDA standards have no protection for you.
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    I haven't been much of a milk drinker since we got rid of our dairy cows when I was 16. That watered down cooked crap they sell in stores just won't do it. I miss real, fresh milk.
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    Originally Posted by Hartski View Post
    I haven't been much of a milk drinker since we got rid of our dairy cows when I was 16. That watered down cooked crap they sell in stores just won't do it. I miss real, fresh milk.
    Yeah I've never met anyone who was raised on real milk that can drink commercial milk afterward.

    All of my City Kitty friends drink F-ing Skim Milk! It's white water and they talk about how they love milk!


    My best friend growing up lived on a family run dairy farm, and while I'm fine with whole milk and can even stoop as low as 2% for the sake of my wife (Who grew up on skim) I still can't do the full cream, from the bulk tank to the pitcher to the kitchen table, type of milk.
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    Wow, never thought I'd see that.
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    I do so hate working on Saturday................oh well, 5 hours of work and $200 closer to being debt free......
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    Originally Posted by Hartski View Post
    I haven't been much of a milk drinker since we got rid of our dairy cows when I was 16. That watered down cooked crap they sell in stores just won't do it. I miss real, fresh milk.
    I never really cared for milk, but as kid we drank raw milk. It's really good for allergies. My son has started having trouble with his allergies and meds haven't been helping him so I thought I'd go the farmers market and see if I could switch him over to raw milk for a while. It was really hard! Like they are allowed to sell up to a certain amount but apparently doing so in the open can bring the wrath of the fda or so I'm told. I've heard stories of the fda raiding dairy farmers over this.

    Anyway I did eventually find a farmer that could sell it me and I went to his farm checked things out. Since it's raw and I'm giving it to my kid I wanted to make sure of where it was coming from.
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    I do so hate working on Saturday................oh well, 5 hours of work and $200 closer to being debt free......
    I got ya beat today brother... I just made $100 for 3 minutes worth of work, while I was taking a dump on a Saturday morning!

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    I got ya beat today brother... I just made $100 for 3 minutes worth of work, while I was taking a dump on a Saturday morning!

    Aww, are you back to doing fetish porn? Thought you made it out........
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    I got ya beat today brother... I just made $100 for 3 minutes worth of work, while I was taking a dump on a Saturday morning!


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    Nice... So it turned out that one of the guys I used to hang out with from time to time in HS (And is friends with me on FB) Actually only lives like 5-6 miles from me. Avid hunter and fisherman... So I invited him down Saturday to go rabbit hunting with me.

    We didn't get any, but had a good time... After he stayed for dinner and drinks and we watched football swapping stories. He's deep into politics more than I care to get into, but we none the less had a blast. So it looks like I've at least finally found that elusive Fishing and Hunting buddy up here!

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    bbc america is supposedly bringing back BSG . here is the schedule:

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    Frack it was good to watch BSG again... They had both pilot movies on last night. I wish they would just start reshowing it in order on Sunday nights, instead of scattered weekday episodes.
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    Must be nice. All my old buddies are crackheads now.
    Yeah, if you just set aside this guy's love of politics (Which he can do) I think I actually have more in common with him, at this point in my life, than I do my friends of 30+ years who live in the city!

    He's an independent contractor as well, working as a service tech... And sometimes before he hits the road he needs help setting his van up and getting all his supplies decked out and inventoried and he might have a little side work for me to make a couple extra bucks with baby on the way etc...
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    Nice... So it turned out that one of the guys I used to hang out with from time to time in HS (And is friends with me on FB) Actually only lives like 5-6 miles from me. Avid hunter and fisherman... So I invited him down Saturday to go rabbit hunting with me.

    We didn't get any, but had a good time... After he stayed for dinner and drinks and we watched football swapping stories. He's deep into politics more than I care to get into, but we none the less had a blast. So it looks like I've at least finally found that elusive Fishing and Hunting buddy up here!

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    spooning does conserve heat while ice fishing
    Actually when I ice fish, it's more like a Sauna on Wheels, the only thing cold about my ice fishing experience is walking from the fish house to the truck.
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    Originally Posted by Nainoa View Post
    Actually when I ice fish, it's more like a Sauna on Wheels, the only thing cold about my ice fishing experience is walking from the fish house to the truck.
    If you get it too warm in the fish house what happens when it melts the ice below you?
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    Originally Posted by HairyScandinavian View Post
    If you get it too warm in the fish house what happens when it melts the ice below you?
    Heat rises, comrade. The ice stays nice and chilly. If you pack up enough snow around the outside of the house and let it sit in the same place for a month or so, you'll conserve enough heat where your holes will stay open for a good 3-4 days, but that's about the extent of the melting. If your house is warm enough to melt the 12+ inches of ice it's sitting on, you've got other problems to worry about that generally require the assistance of a fire truck.

    The major problem with the ice melting under your house is if you don't lower it all the way down to the ice and let the wind blow under it. The wind will swirl the liquid water and will melt over a foot of ice in under a week, even in sub-zero temps. It happened to a buddy's house just last winter. That's why dropping your house all the way down to the ice and banking the sides with snow is so important.
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    Originally Posted by HairyScandinavian View Post
    If you get it too warm in the fish house what happens when it melts the ice below you?
    LOL...

    Heat Rises and Ice is a MASSIVE heat sink.

    We actually have a little 12V fan that blows the hot air down from the ceiling to keep the floor in the 50's... Otherwise you'd have 90 degree air at the ceiling and 20 degree air at the floor!

    I think the record difference for the 6 foot ceiling was the time we were conserving the last of the battery on a Saturday overnight and we had 105 at the ceiling and 30 at the floor!

    The of course the floor itself is a heat block and you have 16 inches of air before you get to the ice. So the worst you ever get on the ice outside the holes is a slick spot on the ice when you pull the house away etc...

    All of the holes are blocked up either with 5 gallon buckets that have the bottom cut out, or a wood box for the back "Trench" so there is only a little sharing of air space between the interior of the camper and the outside world.

    In fact on really windy days when the small crack and drafts threaten to skim ice the holes we take the pot of water that is always simmering for humidity on the wood stove and pour the hot water down the holes just so your line doesn't stick to the edge of the hole.
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    Heat rises, comrade. The ice stays nice and chilly. If you pack up enough snow around the outside of the house and let it sit in the same place for a month or so, you'll conserve enough heat where your holes will stay open for a good 3-4 days, but that's about the extent of the melting. If your house is warm enough to melt the 12+ inches of ice it's sitting on, you've got other problems to worry about that generally require the assistance of a fire truck.

    The major problem with the ice melting under your house is if you don't lower it all the way down to the ice and let the wind blow under it. The wind will swirl the liquid water and will melt over a foot of ice in under a week, even in sub-zero temps. It happened to a buddy's house just last winter. That's why dropping your house all the way down to the ice and banking the sides with snow is so important.
    My house sits 13 inches from the bottom of the floor to the top of the ice. (No Drop down etc....) And what we do is take 4' X 2' plywood panels and set them around the house as skirting, then screw them together and just bank at the bottom. It keeps the house from "Freezing down."

    Which in a frozen slush situation can kind of be nice too... Because you can hitch on and power the house out... Then just bend the boards out of the ice.

    But that rear box, if that SOB freezes down it has to be chiseled out.

    I had one time, we got the whole house free... No skirting no freeze down, but the back box was still in, and the tires on the truck were just spinning hopelessly.

    Who'd a thought that 1/2 inch plywood in just the right configuration could stop an F-150 in 4-Low, dead in it's tracks!
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    Originally Posted by Nainoa View Post
    My house sits 13 inches from the bottom of the floor to the top of the ice. (No Drop down etc....) And what we do is take 4' X 2' plywood panels and set them around the house as skirting, then screw them together and just bank at the bottom. It keeps the house from "Freezing down."

    Which in a frozen slush situation can kind of be nice too... Because you can hitch on and power the house out... Then just bend the boards out of the ice.

    But that rear box, if that SOB freezes down it has to be chiseled out.

    I had one time, we got the whole house free... No skirting no freeze down, but the back box was still in, and the tires on the truck were just spinning hopelessly.

    Who'd a thought that 1/2 inch plywood in just the right configuration could stop an F-150 in 4-Low, dead in it's tracks!
    We froze our old house in a few years ago. It was snow turned to slush after a freak winter rain. We spent the better part of 3 hours and a case or two of beer chipping an 8' x 12' house out from about 6" of solid ice with chisels and axes. We learned our lesson.
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    Originally Posted by lhprop1 View Post
    We froze our old house in a few years ago. It was snow turned to slush after a freak winter rain. We spent the better part of 3 hours and a case or two of beer chipping an 8' x 12' house out from about 6" of solid ice with chisels and axes. We learned our lesson.
    Yeah back in the days when we didn't get winter rains, the Drop Down house was the envy of all the ice sheets. Now it's kind of the double edged sword.

    The last 2 rain events that came through my house was out there and the ice under the tires and the hammerschloggin log we use to hold up the tongue basically suspended the fish house in the air on like 6 inch stalagtites of ice.

    But the Jack stands actually melted down into the ice and were completely incased. Luckily my buddy brought his big torch and we were able to blow torch them out.
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    I just envision Nainoa wanting to be so comfortable and kicking back for a nap in nothing but his seafoam boxer shorts and flip flops and melting himself into the lake.
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    I just envision Nainoa wanting to be so comfortable and kicking back for a nap in nothing but his seafoam boxer shorts and flip flops and melting himself into the lake.
    Oh yeah I've gotten down to tank top and regular summer shorts in there.

    What's nice for me when I sleep on the ice... Which admittedly is pretty rare in recent years, is that my back bunk is right at the back box of holes. We just leave the rattle reels down all night long.

    For everyone else when the rattle reels by their beds go off, they have to get out of their sleeping bags and bunks, walk across the cold floor (There's no time to put on boots etc...) to go land the fish. God help them if it's a bull head or an eel pout!

    But I can just roll over, grab the line and set the hook... Pull the fish up, unhook it and rebait, all without having to get out of my sleeping bag.

    We even had a system worked out a while back with the the guy who sleeps by the door... I'd unhook the crappie... He'd pop the door open so it would bounce and right when it was about to bounce back I'd throw the fish like a tomahawk out the door onto the ice.

    When we first invented the technique we had 6 fish in a row go out the door like that and I said to him "What are you going to do if I ever miss?"

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    Sounds like a lot of work. I just wiggle a groove into the sand next to my truck and wait for the screaming drag of the shark rods to go off. I even make my own sand pillow if I need to.
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