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    Cliff Builder Bars = B*tch Tits? (REPS)

    Why do I see so many posters says Cliff Builder bars give you b*tch tits and estrogen? Is this legit or broscience?

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    wouldn't even touch that stuff bc i'm young

    but you're 23 just make sure u got pct with those bars
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    lol OP u do those? sorry about no longer being natty brah.
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    All I know is the chocolate mint ones are amazing.
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    lol phaggots....


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    Myth.
    Man tries to make for himself in the fashion that suits him best a simplified picture of the world; he then tries to substitute this cosmos of his for the world of experience, thus to overcome it. This is what the painter, the poet, the philosopher, and the scientist do, each in his own fashion. Each makes this cosmos and its construction the pivot of his emotional life, in order to find in this way the peace and security which he cannot find in the narrow whirlpool of personal experience.
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    Originally Posted by nastynate87 View Post
    All I know is the chocolate mint ones are amazing.
    So much this.
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    The vanilla ones are the best, actually.
    Man tries to make for himself in the fashion that suits him best a simplified picture of the world; he then tries to substitute this cosmos of his for the world of experience, thus to overcome it. This is what the painter, the poet, the philosopher, and the scientist do, each in his own fashion. Each makes this cosmos and its construction the pivot of his emotional life, in order to find in this way the peace and security which he cannot find in the narrow whirlpool of personal experience.
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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    Myth.
    What was the intial reasoning? The soy protein?
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    strong amount of ppl on cell tech itt
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    It's because they contain soy protein. The locker room theory is that soy consumption is linked/correlated to estrogen production. Honestly don't know if it's true or not, and don't really care...
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    They should be fine OP if you take them with caution. If you take too much you will have too much testosterone and some will be converted to oestrogen. A good PCT should help. Stay safe.
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    Originally Posted by bada1211 View Post
    What was the intial reasoning? The soy protein?
    I forget the specifics, but basically one of the following:

    1) Soy doesn't really mess with estrogen.
    2) Soy will upregulate estrogen, but in such small amounts that you would have to eat an unreal amount of soy each day for it to do anything noticeable.
    Man tries to make for himself in the fashion that suits him best a simplified picture of the world; he then tries to substitute this cosmos of his for the world of experience, thus to overcome it. This is what the painter, the poet, the philosopher, and the scientist do, each in his own fashion. Each makes this cosmos and its construction the pivot of his emotional life, in order to find in this way the peace and security which he cannot find in the narrow whirlpool of personal experience.
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    So fking dangerious make sure u research dosage... I still think ur too young but if u wana hop on builder bars cant stop u
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    Do you use kettlebells and TRX rings too, OP?
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    Originally Posted by sauerkraut View Post
    It's because they contain soy protein. The locker room theory is that soy consumption is linked/correlated to estrogen production. Honestly don't know if it's true or not, and don't really care...
    This. Too many people think that soy protein raises estrogen. From everything I've read, you need to be taking in HUGE amounts of soy for it to have any effect. So go ahead and eat the cliff bars, you will be fine
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    Who cares they look delicious.
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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    I forget the specifics, but basically one of the following:

    1) Soy doesn't really mess with estrogen.
    2) Soy will upregulate estrogen, but in such small amounts that you would have to eat an unreal amount of soy each day for it to do anything noticeable.
    Originally Posted by topcop8p7 View Post
    This. Too many people think that soy protein raises estrogen. From everything I've read, you need to be taking in HUGE amounts of soy for it to have any effect. So go ahead and eat the cliff bars, you will be fine
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    what about the regular cliff energy bars? I have like 3 of those a week
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    Maybe those Luna bars that are made for women because some of them say that they have hormone stuff in them...
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    Originally Posted by AhDo View Post
    what about the regular cliff energy bars? I have like 3 of those a week
    get off of them before it's too late

    you're 18 so maybe you can still recover
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    because your body is accustomed to healthier foods, when you eat crap like mcd or any other processed foods your body will feel the negative effects a lot more.

    my gyno flares up everytime i eat processed junk
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    Originally Posted by Otaman View Post
    get off of them before it's too late

    you're 18 so maybe you can still recover
    i can't tell if you're srs or not
    We're all going to make it brah
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