E_P_C and MTCS go full APE, Bulk to Cut with Athletic Edge Nutrition

[E_P_C]

negged for building suspense

im getting there

[400Lb Gorilla]

better be a vid i can fap to

[E_P_C]

Thoughts of the Day:

I expected good numbers, but got great numbers. I think this is a 5RM PR so im gonna call it that. Was so tempted to just say **** it
go for 5 plates but that day will come. After the deadlifts i was smoked so thats why theres only 2 sets of rows and nothing else.


Supplements Taken:

1 scoop of PreSurge
1 scoop of Creatine RT
6 caps of Intraxcell
6 caps of Orange Triad


Training:

Deadlifts-

315x5
360x5
410x5 5RM PR
315x5
325x5
335x5
345x5
355x5

Barbell Rows-

225x5
225x5





Motivation:

[jshaw5]

Nice pulls man, your speed off the floor is awesome. Start hitting those rack pulls to work on that lockout strength and you'll blast through 5 plates easy.

[400Lb Gorilla]

excellent fighting on that 6th rep. i was hoping you had miscounted the reps lol. stop doing touch and go before it kills you. it is only enforcing the bad habits you are trying to break.

[burlyman619]

Nice lifts man. I am starting my 5x5 today and I hope to see some numbers like you're seeing!

[400Lb Gorilla]

Nice pulls man, your speed off the floor is awesome. Start hitting those rack pulls to work on that lockout strength and you'll blast through 5 plates easy.

actually i think his lockout is still strong enough. the problem with his deadlift is he is still using a lot of low back in the bottom of the lift. by the time he gets to the lockout portion he is not "weaker" there but simply in a bad position to start with. the fact that he locked out 410 for 5 reps in this position show he has some excellent upperback, trap, and hip strength.

EPC you are going to have to train yourself to sit back into this lift more and recruit more hammies, glutes, and quads into it.

[E_P_C]

Nice pulls man, your speed off the floor is awesome. Start hitting those rack pulls to work on that lockout strength and you'll blast through 5 plates easy.

Thanks. I would say im close, maybe next month or at least by the end of the year

excellent fighting on that 6th rep. i was hoping you had miscounted the reps lol. stop doing touch and go before it kills you. it is only enforcing the bad habits you are trying to break.

yeah i came down off center on the 5th which kinda messed everything up. i know

Nice lifts man. I am starting my 5x5 today and I hope to see some numbers like you're seeing!

do it

actually i think his lockout is still strong enough. the problem with his deadlift is he is still using a lot of low back in the bottom of the lift. by the time he gets to the lockout portion he is not "weaker" there but simply in a bad position to start with. the fact that he locked out 410 for 5 reps in this position show he has some excellent upperback, trap, and hip strength.

EPC you are going to have to train yourself to sit back into this lift more and recruit more hammies, glutes, and quads into it.

thats why i was going wider. you do realize that the only way im getting that weight off the floor is by using back. my squat is 150+lbs less than my deadlift

[400Lb Gorilla]

Thanks. I would say im close, maybe next month or at least by the end of the year

yeah i came down off center on the 5th which kinda messed everything up. i know

do it

thats why i was going wider. you do realize that the only way im getting that weight off the floor is by using back. my squat is 150+lbs less than my deadlift

yes but what can you quarter squat? lol the quads play an important role in deadlift but not nearly as much as the hammies and glutes do in bringing your trunk to a vertical position.

your low back is already strong as fuk, your traps/lats are strong as fuk, the only real weakness you have is form. even if you can only squat 225 that would still be some assistance to the back in pulling 410 or 450 or even 500.

still 410x5.5 is pretty damn good for a day's work lol. next time also get a vid of one of those lighter BBB sets. would like to see what you pulling 315 looks like compared to almost 100 pounds heavier

Edit: you are right a wider stance might help you. i dont know if a full sumo stance would be a good idea but see if spreading the feet out help. also do you front squat on any day?

[E_P_C]

yes but what can you quarter squat? lol the quads play an important role in deadlift but not nearly as much as the hammies and glutes do in bringing your trunk to a vertical position.

your low back is already strong as fuk, your traps/lats are strong as fuk, the only real weakness you have is form. even if you can only squat 225 that would still be some assistance to the back in pulling 410 or 450 or even 500.

still 410x5.5 is pretty damn good for a day's work lol. next time also get a vid of one of those lighter BBB sets. would like to see what you pulling 315 looks like compared to almost 100 pounds heavier

Edit: you are right a wider stance might help you. i dont know if a full sumo stance would be a good idea but see if spreading the feet out help. also do you front squat on any day?

Yeah I know and agree with that

There fast, I will tape those next time. Front squats will come back this week. Was hard enough doing regular squats after a month off

[TheReverend]

Nice lifts man. I am starting my 5x5 today and I hope to see some numbers like you're seeing!

You loggin em brah?

5x5 is an awesome workout.

[400Lb Gorilla]

Yeah I know and agree with that

There fast, I will tape those next time. Front squats will come back this week. Was hard enough doing regular squats after a month off

To me the front squat has more carry over to deadlift than back squats do. Keep them explosive. I would suggest a 5/3/1 approach to those too.

[E_P_C]

To me the front squat has more carry over to deadlift than back squats do. Keep them explosive. I would suggest a 5/3/1 approach to those too.

Wrist flexibility is my issue on front squats

[TheReverend]

EPC setting some PRs on his birthday.

BECAUSE IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY.

[E_P_C]

EPC setting some PRs on his birthday.

BECAUSE IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY.

Would have rather had a 5 plate pull PR

[TheReverend]

Would have rather had a 5 plate pull PR

You're doing it wrong, man.

Would rather have a massage and relax time on my birthday.

[E_P_C]

You're doing it wrong, man.

Would rather have a massage and relax time on my birthday.

wtf is that

have not had that ever

[E_P_C]

Clothed BW is 177.5 today

Destroyed a steak bowl and dessert at a Mongolian grill for lunch today

[TheReverend]

Clothed BW is 177.5 today

Destroyed a steak bowl and dessert at a Mongolian grill for lunch today

Gonna be so fat after your bulk lol

[E_P_C]

Gonna look like a tank after your bulk lol

Fixed

[TheReverend]

Fixed

Oh for sure that... but a fat ****ing tank too :P

On a totally unrelated note: in b4 400lb

[burlyman619]

You loggin em brah?

5x5 is an awesome workout.

Fuk it why not:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post978337133

[E_P_C]

Oh for sure that... but a fat ****ing tank too :P

On a totally unrelated note: in b4 400lb

Yes but my cut will be perfection this time around so i can afford to start at 20%

[TheReverend]

Yes but my cut will be perfection this time around so i can afford to start at 20%

In for all of it

[E_P_C]

In for all of it

the first transformation contest i did i was 178, still have a picture. i am disgust. crazy how much of a difference in what i look like now at almost that weight

[MTCS]

Thoughts of the Day:

It was good to back to the heavy weight after the weekend. Really motivated by the progress. Just like EPC told me earlier, the weight would come back pretty quickly and I felt it today.

Supplements Taken:

1 scoop Optimum Nutrition Vanilla Hydro-whey
3 tabs Optimum Nutrition Opti-men
1.5 scoop of Cellucor C4
6 caps of Intraxcell
1 scoop Optimum Nutrition Hydrobuilder (post workout)
1 scoop Optimum Nutrition Casien (at bedtime)


Training:

Overhead Press-

60x5
75x5
95x5
110x5
125x5
140x7

Dips (+25 lbs)-

x15 (x3)
x12 (x2)

Chin-ups-

x10 (x3)
x10 (x2)

Cable cross-over

15x15
20x15
25x15
30x12(x2)

Overhead presses felt solid and I added 2 more reps to my chin-ups from last week. Once I get to my 5 sets of 10, then it's time to start adding weight.

[KenshinH]

Good training guys! EPC, happy birthday and congrats on the 5RM PR!

[400Lb Gorilla]

Wrist flexibility is my issue on front squats

use a cross arm grip..... i do and have had no issues so far. for YOU these arent necessarily going to be heavy. unless you are going to start getting interested in power cleans and cleans ofcourse then yeah you might want to get that wrist flexibility down

Happy Birthday

Oh for sure that... but a fat ****ing tank too :P

On a totally unrelated note: in b4 400lb

bertstare


@MTCS, solid pressing. and dips, and chinups too lol. i like the combo of exercises you got for 5/3/1

[MTCS]

use a cross arm grip..... i do and have had no issues so far. for YOU these arent necessarily going to be heavy. unless you are going to start getting interested in power cleans and cleans ofcourse then yeah you might want to get that wrist flexibility down

Happy Birthday



bertstare


@MTCS, solid pressing. and dips, and chinups too lol. i like the combo of exercises you got for 5/3/1

Thanks, def trying to do this right! My end goal is to be in my best possible shape by March when I turn 44. I did good on the last cut, I wanna do even better on this one!

[E_P_C]

Overhead Press-

60x5
75x5
95x5
110x5
125x5
140x7

gj on the press bro

Good training guys! EPC, happy birthday and congrats on the 5RM PR!

thanks