Harvard

[Huntermirin]

Do you go to Hunter? I honestly just want the connections. The education doesn't really matter to me. My ultimate goal in life is just to be rich and after being poor af all my life I won't take no for answer.

I go to UCLA
If you can't get into Harvard go to BU and just party at Harvard and MIT for connections.

[DasWunderBrah]

Thanks for the list of schools, but I always thought Princeton was harder to get into than Harvard. I'm definetely willing to work hard to get a 7 figure salary, but are these Ivy's as great as they are made out to be? This thread wasn't about me asking if i CAN get into the ivy's. It was supposed to ask if there's a point in getting in. Maybe I shouldn't of even posted my creds; it just attracted all the misc trolls.

Given your premise, there's no reason to not attend an ivy, other than finances (even in that case I'd still wager that 100k debt + STEM degree from Ivy is a financially sound decision). There will be more opportunities and connections than you will be able to handle of wider variety and caliber than non-ivies can offer. Straight up fact. Ultimately it's up to you to capitalize of course. Depending on the ivy, you will either be subject to grade inflation or deflation, so keep that in mind. A chit GPA from an ivy does not hold much weight anywhere.

And like other miscers have stated, pepper your angus to feel like a complete neanderthal/meet legit geniuses.

[ppham27]

yeah I've done some research on that, but I definitely wouldn't do premed at Harvard. I was just saying that more realistically I'd wanna be a high paid physician, like a derm or anesthesiologist. I've read about the crazy residencies, but I'm willing to work hard for the 400k starting salaries.

Don't be a doctor for the money unless you have awful social skills. To become a specialist like a derm or anesthesiologist you'll need to sacrifice 10 years for training. For those 10 years, you'll be sacrificing at least $1mil in opportunity costs, maybe even more when you take into account the debt you'll be accumulating. With 10 years of experience in banking and consulting, you'll make $400k+, anyway. Of course, if you have awful social skills, med school might be the only way to make money. You just need to study and work hard. Surprisingly, being a doctor doesn't require having any people skills.

[Huntermirin]

Don't be a doctor for the money unless you have awful social skills. To be come a specialist like a derm or anesthesiologist you'll need to sacrifice 10 years for training. For those 10 years, you'll be sacrificing at least $1mil in opportunity costs, maybe even more when you take into account the debt you'll be accumulating. With 10 years of experience in banking and consulting, you'll make $400k+, anyway. Of course, if you have awful social skills, med school might be the only way to make money. You just need to study and work hard. Surprisingly, being a doctor doesn't require having any people skills.

7 figure salary doctor that op wants to become with no people skills

pls. lol

[ANDYMAYNE]

OP wants to earn as much money as possible with the least amount of effort. Can someone explain how to be a ceo or get rich through a business major? That seems like an easier path than med.

[Areyoumirin]

if you're really poor, go to Harvard. Pretty sure you get a free ride if you get in and are even middle-class, muchless poor.


don't know how these top highschools work but I doubt many legit poor kids get a chance to go there so you're probably bullsh*ting but if not..
your choice seems to be made

It's a public school, so it's free. I took a test to get in there called the SHSAT and scored something like top 5 percent to make it back when I was in 8th grade.

[blabloo]

7 figure salary doctor that op wants to become with no people skills

pls. lol

I love that these people think that patients will go to a doctor that doesn't make them feel comfortable, especially the competitive fields. A surgeon that can't maintain a conversation or seem confident? Yeah good luck getting ANY patients.

[MakeABanana]

Don't be a doctor for the money unless you have awful social skills. To be come a specialist like a derm or anesthesiologist you'll need to sacrifice 10 years for training. For those 10 years, you'll be sacrificing at least $1mil in opportunity costs, maybe even more when you take into account the debt you'll be accumulating. With 10 years of experience in banking and consulting, you'll make $400k+, anyway. Of course, if you have awful social skills, med school might be the only way to make money. You just need to study and work hard. Surprisingly, being a doctor doesn't require having any people skills.

LOL

No. Competent doctors need social skills. Most of my class has excellent social skills, though a few socially awkward people have slipped in.

[Areyoumirin]

if you're really poor, go to Harvard. Pretty sure you get a free ride if you get in and are even middle-class, muchless poor.


don't know how these top highschools work but I doubt many legit poor kids get a chance to go there so you're probably bullsh*ting but if not..
your choice seems to be made

Yeah, I'll definitely apply, but according to 90 percent of the people on this thread, I have no chance of making it. More realistically, I'll get into Columbia and hope to make connections there,

[Cockslammington]

Hi misc

Stuyvesant - For the 2010 academic year, the student body was approximately 72.05% Asian and 23.55% Caucasian, 1.21% African American and 2.43% Hispanic.

hahahahahahahahahaha what

[MakeABanana]

Btw, OP, if you want to become successful in business, talk to guys like ShayZ and Dave P, both of whom have made successful businesses. Learn about what they've done to get to where they are today.

[DasWunderBrah]

Stuyvesant - For the 2010 academic year, the student body was approximately 72.05% Asian and 23.55% Caucasian, 1.21% African American and 2.43% Hispanic.

hahahahahahahahahaha what

That's basically the makeup of any top tier private uni. Especially with regard to how it actually feels, even if the numbers are a bit off.

[Superlative95]

OP wants to earn as much money as possible with the least amount of effort. Can someone explain how to be a ceo or get rich through a business major? That seems like an easier path than med.

Thing is, you gotta go to a top school to get rich with a business degree since the top schools have the best alumni networks. Just going to an average state school won't cut it, and you'd have to market the **** out of yourself and network extensively in order to get yourself in the door. If you can get into a top school or do the latter, work in banking or consulting and make ~$100k or more at 22. You can stick with that for the rest of your life or do what most people do, go to business school and then transition into a F500 company or solid regional company for that better work/life balance.

[dallascowboys56]

stuvy has the ugliest bishes in the world. I feel ur pain bro. Go to ASU and actually get top tier c*nt

[Lpenny]

Go to phukin Harvard if you feel like the Harvard type. If you're the type that has his future planned out step by step, wants to take the world by the balls, obsesses over success, then go there.

[ANDYMAYNE]

Thing is, you gotta go to a top school to get rich with a business degree since the top schools have the best alumni networks. Just going to an average state school won't cut it, and you'd have to market the **** out of yourself and network extensively in order to get yourself in the door. If you can get into a top school or do the latter, work in banking or consulting and make ~$100k or more at 22. You can stick with that for the rest of your life or do what most people do, go to business school and then transition into a F500 company or solid regional company for that better work/life balance.

Interesting. Can you recommend a good school within OP's reach that would provide the alumni networks he would need to get rich? since Harvard seems to be out of the question.

[Superlative95]

Interesting. Can you recommend a good school within OP's reach that would provide the alumni networks he would need to get rich? since Harvard seems to be out of the question.

NYU, Cornell, Dartmouth, UVA, Duke, Notre Dame, BC, Mich, Indiana, UT Austin, UC Berkeley

[rynnp]

ur not getting in.... LOL why even make this post

[Areyoumirin]

stuvy has the ugliest bishes in the world. I feel ur pain bro. Go to ASU and actually get top tier c*nt

Thumbs up x50000

[Areyoumirin]

ur not getting in.... LOL why even make this post

I mentioned in a previous comment that the point was to see if anyone knew about the actual connections I'd make there, not to ask people if I'm getting in.

[puddlestheduck]

If being in finance is your goal in life, then going to Harvard/Wharton and maybe Princeton and Stanford is no doubt extremely helpful. There are some companies in Private Equity that only recruit at Wharton and Harvard and even middle of the pack students at those schools get offers at big name i-banks with the top 10% being almost guaranteed Goldman, Morgan, JPM or boutiques like Blackstone/Lazard. On top of that, you're connected to a whole ****load of people who are going to be killing it and being able to call upon them in the future is a huge deal, not only for you, but for your future family as well.

Having said that, you'd be shocked to know that a ton of CEOs come from fairly average universities. Why? Because being a CEO isn't the dream job to absolutely ball out in finance and a lot of CEOs are CEOs because they started the company as entrepreneurs. Most of the kids I know who want to be finance kings are into being MD at PE firms like KKR/Carlyle or want to be the next George Soros. As long as you go to a solid program (even top state schools like Berkeley, Michigan, UVA place EXTREMELY WELL at the undergrad level), get good grades, and develop social skills to network well, you can be a CEO. I really think that although some schools are on another level for connections (HYPSWM), once you get past those it's more up to the student and their capabilities to succeed. In the end, an education is what you make of it.

[2cull4skool]

sry but your not getting in. Kid at my school was a fkn genious (brb paid intern at NASA at from age 16 $20k per summer), got close to perfect on sat n ****, had a 4.0, recommendations from top NASA scientists, asian, didn't get into MIT. Granted, it's because he was socially awkward and failed his interview, but you have borderline grades (I have the same **** as you, but a better high school and higher SAT scores, and I figure I'm on course to go to a school like Florida or USC or some upper level college but not ivy) so apply but don't count on it OP.

[Areyoumirin]

If being in finance is your goal in life, then going to Harvard/Wharton and maybe Princeton and Stanford is no doubt extremely helpful. There are some companies in Private Equity that only recruit at Wharton and Harvard and even middle of the pack students at those schools get offers at big name i-banks with the top 10% being almost guaranteed Goldman, Morgan, JPM or boutiques like Blackstone/Lazard. On top of that, you're connected to a whole ****load of people who are going to be killing it and being able to call upon them in the future is a huge deal, not only for you, but for your future family as well.

Having said that, you'd be shocked to know that a ton of CEOs come from fairly average universities. Why? Because being a CEO isn't the dream job to absolutely ball out in finance and a lot of CEOs are CEOs because they started the company as entrepreneurs. Most of the kids I know who want to be finance kings are into being MD at PE firms like KKR/Carlyle or want to be the next George Soros. As long as you go to a solid program (even top state schools like Berkeley, Michigan, UVA place EXTREMELY WELL at the undergrad level), get good grades, and develop social skills to network well, you can be a CEO. I really think that although some schools are on another level for connections (HYPSWM), once you get past those it's more up to the student and their capabilities to succeed. In the end, an education is what you make of it.

Very well spoken.

[2cull4skool]

also why not do what im planning.
4 years at Florida for business (paid for by scholarships)
get job in finance/business OR (If I graduated like valedictorian) get recruited by firm and they pay for/towards my MBA
get MBA at Duke or somewhere
Profit $$$
brb 10k/day 5 years in
brb by 45 make 1m+/year
brb retire when i want
brb yacht/big house/cars/chef

[OCaml]

TJ > Stuy, sorry bud.

At any rate, med school doesn't care so much about where you went as it does what your GPA and MCAT is. So an Ivy isn't the be-all end-all for that. Finance cares a lot about pedigree just because it looks amazing for a bank to have an entire class of analysts from top schools.

You're probably not gonna get into Harvard or Wharton, but if you're thinking finance, Dartmouth and Penn in general are still awesome options.

Credentials - student in a top dual-degree program that kids turn down Harvard and Stanford to attend. If you wanna talk more about chances, shoot me a PM or something.

[ndr535]

These top schools (Harvard, Yale, UPenn, etc) are basically feeders for major investment banks, you know, where the "wall street guys" work. They will probably have recruiters on campus looking for potential candidates for jobs/internships. Displaying a genuine interest in the field from an early age is a major plus, and is pretty much what you need to get ahead.

This doesn't take into account that you may be roommates with a kid who's daddy runs a hedgefund and might hook you up with a summer internship/sweet job.

Once you get into college, it's not just about who's got the best GPA, you have to actively seek these opportunities (and they will be there), and take the next step. You obviously had the drive to get into the school, now you gotta use it to take you to the next level

Exactly what he said. Don't go to some **** school for the parties. MIT had some crazy frat parties and that's the last thing you think of when you think MIT.

If you're not ****ing weird and make good connections it will help you out so much. You have no idea. One of my best friends dad is head of M&A at a top firm in the world and he graduated from Harvard. He basically goes there every couple months from Greenwich to take a few promising kids out for dinner and see if they want to work at his firm when they graduate.
He also sponsors one kid every year, full ride and everything.

Go to an Ivy League.

[DasWunderBrah]

sry but your not getting in. Kid at my school was a fkn genious (brb paid intern at NASA at from age 16 $20k per summer), got close to perfect on sat n ****, had a 4.0, recommendations from top NASA scientists, asian, didn't get into MIT. Granted, it's because he was socially awkward and failed his interview, but you have borderline grades (I have the same **** as you, but a better high school and higher SAT scores, and I figure I'm on course to go to a school like Florida or USC or some upper level college but not ivy) so apply but don't count on it OP.

lol so what? I know several asians and white ppl with fewer/less impressive credentials than your friend studying at MIT right now. He got fukced. Has no bearing on OP. Each graduating class is different and they look at each student individually/holistically.

Also OP, not sure if you knew this but you can literally go webpage of whatever private equity firm, boutiques etc and they display which specific unis are targets/where they actively recruit.

http://www.blackrockoncampus.com/on-campus/

BlackRock for example. And as you can see, every Ivy is present.

[OCaml]

lol so what? I know several asians and white ppl with fewer/less impressive credentials than your friend studying at MIT right now. He got fukced. Has no bearing on OP.

I mean he answered it himself. The kid's awkward as hell. There are more than enough extremely awkward kids at top universities already, they're really not looking to add anymore (even at MIT, I would imagine).

[TehHoneyBadger]

NYU, Cornell no, Dartmouth **** NO, UVA, Duke **** no again, Notre Dame, BC, Mich, Indiana, UT Austin, UC Berkeley

I laugh at OP's hubris
2120 SAT? Plz go

find a decent state school and work hard there, the competition in the Ivies will crush you

[2cull4skool]

lol so what? I know several asians and white ppl with fewer/less impressive credentials than your friend studying at MIT right now. He got fukced. Has no bearing on OP. Each graduating class is different and they look at each student individually/holistically.

Also OP, not sure if you knew this but you can literally go webpage of whatever private equity firm, boutiques etc and they display which specific unis are targets/where they actively recruit.

maybe they had connections? not arguing just guessing. I remember everyone was shocked because he was a genius. Ah well just shows the importance of social skills