Cutting for a year or more straight, is it safe? And what do you think my BF% is?

[CashmereEsquire]

So I started at around 310 (maybe a little more) and been cutting for 3 months and doing starting strength and now I`m at 295. (I`m 6'3) by the way)

I`m not trying to get thin I just want to get very lean and ripped, at what weight and bf do you guys think I would be before this happens? I`m thinking in a years time if I keep cutting I may be good. But will this put stress on my body going that long? Would you guys reccomend going at maintence for like 2 weeks eevery few months? I mean I feel find, but I`m just tryng to make sure my health is good.




first pic is when I started July 31, 2nd pic is from yesterday morning when I woke up, 3rd pic is from today about 30-1 hr after working out.

[krete77]

~34-38% BF right now.

[CashmereEsquire]

~34-38% BF right now.

do you think I will have to get into the 100s to be "ripped" and "lean" or maybe the 220-30 range? I know theres no definite answer

[earthshieldlol]

You will not be ripped at 220 unless you put on a huge amount of muscle.

[Bonkies]

do you think I will have to get into the 100s to be "ripped" and "lean" or maybe the 220-30 range? I know theres no definite answer

you're 6'3, you'll be good around 200-220lbs

[CashmereEsquire]

You will not be ripped at 220 unless you put on a huge amount of muscle.

lol really? thats a loss of 75 lbs.

[stingray72]

Id be encouraged by the progress that 15 pounds made for you. If thats all the faster you want to go that would seem to be fine to lose weight and make noob gains also.

[CashmereEsquire]

Thanks, I want my chest to catch up with the other stuff :-(

I've been using Creatine, is it necessary to cycle it?

[truushot]

At 6' 3" you will need a ton, and I mean a lot more than you can gain without some chemistry, to be ripped at 220. Sub 200 to be anywhere close to ripped.

[CashmereEsquire]

At 6' 3" you will need a ton, and I mean a lot more than you can gain without some chemistry, to be ripped at 220. Sub 200 to be anywhere close to ripped.

lol well damn, I mean I cant imagine how I`d look after losing 75 lbs, say I get to 185 or so thats a loss of 120+ lbs lol who knows though we will see

[truushot]

lol well damn, I mean I cant imagine how I`d look after losing 75 lbs, say I get to 185 or so thats a loss of 120+ lbs lol who knows though we will see

I'm 6'4" 200 and not close to ripped. 15 pounds in 3 months is a pretty slow pace.

[stingray72]

id say yes it would need to be cycled simply if for no other reason than your body building a tolerance to it.

By the way even if you wanted to ramp up the weight loss a little losing 75 pounds over a year it shouldnt hinder you at all.

[earthshieldlol]

You don't need to cycle creatine. There's no such thing as creatine tolerance.

[CashmereEsquire]

I'm 6'4" 200 and not close to ripped. 15 pounds in 3 months is a pretty slow pace.

I`m not swole or anything, but I think I have a pretty decent frame tht will get bigger as fat continues to drop. At the pace I`m at I`ll lose say 60lbs in a year. I`m not trying to get skinny like I said, just a lifestyle change.

[CashmereEsquire]

You don't need to cycle creatine. There's no such thing as creatine tolerance.

lol creatine is in steak and stuff right, I've heard mix things, havent seen any scientific "studies" just alot of guys on the internet, so idk what to believe

[stingray72]

Your right it is in steak and other things. The post up above is probably right about there being no such thing as tolerance build up then. Only optimum and not optimum levels per say.

[earthshieldlol]

I`m not swole or anything, but I think I have a pretty decent frame tht will get bigger as fat continues to drop. At the pace I`m at I`ll lose say 60lbs in a year. I`m not trying to get skinny like I said, just a lifestyle change.

Ok you're not trying to get skinny, you want to get ripped. I get that. But you realize being ripped means having a large amount of muscle mass and very little body fat, right? To be what most people consider "ripped" you need to be below 10% body fat. At 220, I'd say realistically something like 8% bf is ripped. Based on the pictures you posted, you won't be 8% bf at 220. This is not to discourage you, but instead to keep you from being discouraged as you approach 220lbs and you don't look the way you expected. You need to be realistic about this or you'll set yourself up for failure.

[truushot]

I`m not swole or anything, but I think I have a pretty decent frame tht will get bigger as fat continues to drop. At the pace I`m at I`ll lose say 60lbs in a year. I`m not trying to get skinny like I said, just a lifestyle change.

We here that all the time, and it might be true for you, but the truth is that you might think you are big, but are just fat.

When I started, beginning of March, I was 275 and thought I had a good base underneath all the fat. I thought 220 would be great. I hit 220 and was still at 25% BF (handheld device) A bit before that goal was reached I realized that sub 200 was the only way I would be ripped. Not that I care that much. If you are seriously lifting the entire time you may not need to lose as much as I did. If you really do have a very good base you may not need to go as low as I need to. From your pictures, I don't see that you look more muscular then I was. Continue losing weight and lifting and see what happens. I was just letting you know, for me, 220 wasn't low enough.

[CashmereEsquire]

We here that all the time, and it might be true for you, but the truth is that you might think you are big, but are just fat.

When I started, beginning of March, I was 275 and thought I had a good base underneath all the fat. I thought 220 would be great. I hit 220 and was still at 25% BF (handheld device) A bit before that goal was reached I realized that sub 200 was the only way I would be ripped. Not that I care that much. If you are seriously lifting the entire time you may not need to lose as much as I did. If you really do have a very good base you may not need to go as low as I need to. From your pictures, I don't see that you look more muscular then I was. Continue losing weight and lifting and see what happens. I was just letting you know, for me, 220 wasn't low enough.

naw I understand, its just hearing losing 75 lbs and still being Fat sounds wild. No matter what I`m gonna keep cutting till I get to my desired look, not to much paying attention to lbs. At anytime would you guys reccomend bulking or recomp or just cut cut cut till Im where I want to be?

[stingray72]

Ok you're not trying to get skinny, you want to get ripped. I get that. But you realize being ripped means having a large amount of muscle mass and very little body fat, right? To be what most people consider "ripped" you need to be below 10% body fat. At 220, I'd say realistically something like 8% bf is ripped. Based on the pictures you posted, you won't be 8% bf at 220. This is not to discourage you, but instead to keep you from being discouraged as you approach 220lbs and you don't look the way you expected. You need to be realistic about this or you'll set yourself up for failure.

I absolutely agree that a 75 pound loss isnt going to get you ripped. I lost 30 pounds in my pics and I didnt look anywhere near where I thought I would look BUT things majorly changed none the less.

[earthshieldlol]

naw I understand, its just hearing losing 75 lbs and still being Fat sounds wild. No matter what I`m gonna keep cutting till I get to my desired look, not to much paying attention to lbs. At anytime would you guys reccomend bulking or recomp or just cut cut cut till Im where I want to be?

I would recommend cutting until you feel like you can't cut anymore. And then cut another 2 months past that. And then if you can kind of see your abs cut a little longer and then bulk. The leaner you can get on your first big cut, the happier you will be on your first bulk.

[stingray72]

I would recommend cutting until you feel like you can't cut anymore. And then cut another 2 months past that. And then if you can kind of see your abs cut a little longer and then bulk. The leaner you can get on your first big cut, the happier you will be on your first bulk.

I second that.

[CashmereEsquire]

I would recommend cutting until you feel like you can't cut anymore. And then cut another 2 months past that. And then if you can kind of see your abs cut a little longer and then bulk. The leaner you can get on your first big cut, the happier you will be on your first bulk.

lol so I`m pretty much going to be cutting for over a year. I know theres no way of telling, but you guys think Loose skin will be an issue for me? OR is this something that will be corrected when I eventually do a bulk? (lol 2 years from now)

[truushot]

lol so I`m pretty much going to be cutting for over a year. I know theres no way of telling, but you guys think Loose skin will be an issue for me? OR is this something that will be corrected when I eventually do a bulk? (lol 2 years from now)

Don't think about it. If it happens which is a good possibility, it happens.

[nondualism]

lol so I`m pretty much going to be cutting for over a year. I know theres no way of telling, but you guys think Loose skin will be an issue for me? OR is this something that will be corrected when I eventually do a bulk? (lol 2 years from now)

You could easily lose more than 15lbs in 3 months. I'm doing a pretty easy cut and lose at least 10lbs/month. This first month of cutting again, I lost 15lbs. Get more aggressive, figure out your daily maintenance and cut calories. You should be able to lose a LOT of fat really fast at the body fat % you are now. It will get harder as you lose more.

[EnglishAsian]

You could easily lose more than 15lbs in 3 months. I'm doing a pretty easy cut and lose at least 10lbs/month. This first month of cutting again, I lost 15lbs. Get more aggressive, figure out your daily maintenance and cut calories. You should be able to lose a LOT of fat really fast at the body fat % you are now. It will get harder as you lose more.

This. At the weight and bodyfat you are now, you could easily lose a lot more than 15lb's in 3 months. 15lb's in 3 months at your bf% is very slow in my opinion.

[CashmereEsquire]

This. At the weight and bodyfat you are now, you could easily lose a lot more than 15lb's in 3 months. 15lb's in 3 months at your bf% is very slow in my opinion.

I Mean I`m using Myfitness Pal has me eating 900 cal under maintnece ( at 2040) AND I usually only eat about 15-1700 Calories a day just to make sure I`m not going over by wrong estimates. In the first pic I could be 320 really I`m just estimating 310 (I didnt have a scale at the time ) Because looking at the pics I see I lost a decent amount of weight and my pants size went down 4 sizes ( in first pic I was wearing 46 pants and they fit now I~m wearing 40 (with 42s being a little loose)

15 lbs isnt alot but I look diff and my face even lost weight so in reality I could have lost 20 or more lbs I was just estimating since I didnt get a digital scale until a month in, and Im cutting calories at the rate of losing about 2lbs a week, but idk.

[Charontes]

At 6'3, I'd say you could eventually be ripped at 220. Years down the road if you work very hard. Here's a good estimate/calculator tool:

http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html

Assuming you have a 7.5 inch wrist and 8 inch ankles you could, possibly, reach a 220 weight at 12% BF. (sort of ripped I guess)

Granted, you'd probably need to get to 190 and slowly put on 30lbs of pure muscle. Just a guess though.

[CashmereEsquire]

At 6'3, I'd say you could eventually be ripped at 220. Years down the road if you work very hard. Here's a good estimate/calculator tool:

http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html

Assuming you have a 7.5 inch wrist and 8 inch ankles you could, possibly, reach a 220 weight at 12% BF. (sort of ripped I guess)

Granted, you'd probably need to get to 190 and slowly put on 30lbs of pure muscle. Just a guess though.

Here are my results care to help me understand them?

The WeighTrainer
Maximum Muscular Bodyweight and Measurements Calculator

Height: 75 in Wrist: 8.5 in
Ankle: 10.7 in

Your estimated maximum muscular bodyweight at ~10% bodyfat is: 241.9 lbs

Your estimated maximum bulked bodyweight at ~10% bodyfat is: 251.6 lbs

Your estimated maximum muscular measurements (@ ~8%-10% bodyfat) are:

Chest: 53.9 in Biceps: 19.5 in
Forearms: 15.6 in Neck: 19 in
Thighs: 28.4 in Calves: 19 in

[Charontes]

Do you have any particular questions?

The linked article discusses how he came about these calculations and goes a bit more into details.

http://www.weightrainer.net/potential.html

Basically: if you trained until you reached your maximum potential, those would be your stats at between 8 and 10% BF. (the measurement in inches for each of those bodyparts).