Building custom PWO

[sdistasio2]

I'm sick of seeing all these PWOs with "proprietary blends", pumped full of bullshiz chemicals, and filled with artificial sweeteners. I would like a more natural approach to getting a good pump.

I was thinking of buying optimum nutrition's CGT-10 as a decent base and it seems relativity cheap.

5g Creatine Mono
3g L-Glutaime
2g Taurine
2g Inulin

then i was thinking about adding 2g beta alanine and caffiene but i just dont know how much to add, 200mg sound about right?

What else do you recommend for the supp? Really im looking for something to really jump start me after a long day at work and give me a strong focus! Plus i want the Creatine.

Side note i plan on taking the CGT daily and the mix only PWO.

[stockmaster]

No need for the CGT-10

What i would use in mine if i was to create one

Citrulline Malate 6g
Caffeine 200-300 mg
Agmatine 1 g
Beta Alanine 3.2g (can be split into 2 doses and taken whenever you like or all at once pre)
5g Creatine (Take whenever you like)
Extras if you have money
ALCAR .5-1g
Novaline(spelling?) .5-1g

[rhadam]

There are a couple good threads that talk about home-made pre workouts. I would check those out as yours is pretty bad.

[sdistasio2]

There are a couple good threads that talk about home-made pre workouts. I would check those out as yours is pretty bad.

Yeah i was shocked to see that there are no stickies on the subject.

[Celorza]

5g Creatine Mono Has no place Pre-workout, for your weight you only need 3g every day.
3g L-Glutaime does nothing, most worthless **** ever to hit a store, unless you really need it for GI health
2g Taurine Are you on a PH/DS cycle? Nope...then you don't need Taurine
2g Inulin Don't just add fillers...

Good Pre-workout Dosages:

-6-9g Citrulline Malate
-1g Agmatine Sulfate
-2g COP
-1-2g ALCAR

Need something to wake yah up? (Stimmed version)

Add:

-200mg Caffeine tabs or a 8-10oz coffee

OR my favorite for utmost focus and energy:

-EC stack.

There...NMT and norcoclaurine (higenamine) are also good add-on stimulants with caffeine if you really need a kick and if you can get them cheap.

[sdistasio2]

Good Pre-workout Dosages:

-6-9g Citrulline Malate
-1g Agmatine Sulfate
-2g COP
-1-2g ALCAR

Need something to wake yah up? (Stimmed version)

Add:

-200mg Caffeine tabs or a 8-10oz coffee

OR my favorite for utmost focus and energy:

-EC stack.

There...NMT and norcoclaurine (higenamine) are also good add-on stimulants with caffeine if you really need a kick and if you can get them cheap.

ok i see im already off on the very very wrong track. Where can i find a good compilation of information on ingredients? I obviously have abit of reading to do on the subject.

[rhadam]

Well, you can either do your own research on viable ergogenic aids, and neuro aids if you're wanting stuff like ALCAR/choline/etc, or you can just take our word for what works (see: clinically and anecdotally proven).

Things like Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate, Creatinol-o-phosphate, creatine, caffeine, and agmatine are great basics for a pre workout stack.

[sdistasio2]

Well, you can either do your own research on viable ergogenic aids, and neuro aids if you're wanting stuff like ALCAR/choline/etc, or you can just take our word for what works (see: clinically and anecdotally proven).

Things like Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate, Creatinol-o-phosphate, creatine, caffeine, and agmatine are great basics for a pre workout stack.

Well I will gladly take your word for them working as long as it has been clinically proven to have positive effects, and i thank you for the suggestions. BUT im also the kind of person that likes to know exactly what these products are and do for me before i put them in my body.... so i will take your word and also research lol.