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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    I have a G17. It's a great gun, if you're looking for something that's all business. Reliable, no external safety, easy to tear down, and (for me) points very naturally. If its a "self defense" or "only" gun, it's tough to go wrong with a Glock. I'd take a look at the G19, too, though. Also a 9mm, but a little shorter.

    Of the 1911's you listed, I'd probably lean toward the Springfield (though it might depend on which version). That's especially true if its the one you liked the best.

    I have not had a chance to shoot a G19 but I might just ask my father in law to look into it. My home defense firearm is my 12 gauge. I am looking to finish my CHL this coming year and am not a big fan of the two pistols I have (compact Taurus 380 and a Ruger 357 revolver). I can say that from what I have seen the G17 was the most simple to clean and care for. However, I was not a fan of the trigger ( can be changed for fairly cheap). My favorite gun to shoot of the three was the Springfield 1911. It felt very natural. But I have a hard time spending closer to $1k when I can pick up a G17 for a little more than $400.


    Thanks for the input Vox, I will look into the G19s.

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    Originally Posted by t8rtot View Post
    I have not had a chance to shoot a G19 but I might just ask my father in law to look into it. My home defense firearm is my 12 gauge. I am looking to finish my CHL this coming year and am not a big fan of the two pistols I have (compact Taurus 380 and a Ruger 357 revolver). I can say that from what I have seen the G17 was the most simple to clean and care for. However, I was not a fan of the trigger ( can be changed for fairly cheap). My favorite gun to shoot of the three was the Springfield 1911. It felt very natural. But I have a hard time spending closer to $1k when I can pick up a G17 for a little more than $400.


    Thanks for the input Vox, I will look into the G19s.
    What did you dislike about the G17 trigger?

    It sounds like you are a gun noob who does better with (and consequently likes) the triggers that are the shortest and lightest (single actin like a 1911 > double action semi auto like G17 > double action revolver) mostly because you haven't learned how to pull triggers without disrupting the gun

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    I noticed a few firearms enthusiasts in here. I am looking to buy a new pistol. Been looking at these three for the last 8 months or so. I have shot all three and could not pick my favorite. Give me your choice and reasons why.


    Smith and Wesson 1911 E-series ( no tactical rail)

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    My father in law is a certified arms dealer and I have gotten to shoot all of them a few times. I believe I would choose the Springfield 1911 if price did not matter. Obviously the g17 is the most inexpensive, and the SW1911 is the most expensive.
    You answered your own question - go for the Springfield. What feels good in your hand may not feel so great in mine, so the right choice for you probably isn't the right choice for someone else.

    In related news: went to the range with the wife on Friday to shoot our new H&K USP. She loved it. Loading the mags sucks - got a loader and a 3rd mag on the Christmas list. Need to make time to get my CCW and then a holster as well.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    What did you dislike about the G17 trigger?

    It sounds like you are a gun noob who does better with (and consequently likes) the triggers that are the shortest and lightest (single actin like a 1911 > double action semi auto like G17 > double action revolver) mostly because you haven't learned how to pull triggers without disrupting the gun
    Mostly this. Trigger was super stiff feeling and my grouping always pulled low and right. I know this is my fault.

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    Originally Posted by t8rtot View Post
    Mostly this. Trigger was super stiff feeling and my grouping always pulled low and right. I know this is my fault.
    Are you left handed?

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Are you left handed?
    No, but I do shoot left handed. My brain is fukt. I write right handed, shoot a cue left handed, throw a dart right handed, kick a ball left footed.

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    Originally Posted by t8rtot View Post
    No, but I do shoot left handed. My brain is fukt. I write right handed, shoot a cue left handed, throw a dart right handed, kick a ball left footed.

    Low and right is classic and very common for a left handed pistol shooter. You simply lack proper trigger press. You are clenching your trigger hand and torquing the gun to the right as you squeeze the trigger, = shots go right.

    You are either flinching or pushing the gun down prematurely in anticipation of the recoil = shots go low.

    Next time you shoot get some snap caps or dummy rounds. Load them randomly into multiple magazines. Mix the magazines up so you don't know when the dummy/snap cap will be. Shoot slow. FOCUS ON THE FRONT SITE. Smoothly press the trigger. When the gun goes *click* instead of *bang*, you'll see the front site dive down/right. Practice until that front site doesn't move when the trigger falls. Do a bunch of dry firing if necessary.

    Do you know if you are right or left eye dominant? Look at something on the wall on the other side of the room, like a vent or clock or something. Extend an arm and put your thumb over that object. Close your eyes one at a time. The the that, when open, has your thumb blocking your view of the object, is your dominant eye. If you can't get that to work, make a triange with your index fingers and thumbs touching, looking at the object through the triangle. At arms length Move your hands towards your face until they touch. Whichever eye your hands go to is your dominant eye

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Low and right is classic and very common for a left handed pistol shooter. You simply lack proper trigger press. You are clenching your trigger hand and torquing the gun to the right as you squeeze the trigger, = shots go right.

    You are either flinching or pushing the gun down prematurely in anticipation of the recoil = shots go low.

    Next time you shoot get some snap caps or dummy rounds. Load them randomly into multiple magazines. Mix the magazines up so you don't know when the dummy/snap cap will be. Shoot slow. FOCUS ON THE FRONT SITE. Smoothly press the trigger. When the gun goes *click* instead of *bang*, you'll see the front site dive down/right. Practice until that front site doesn't move when the trigger falls. Do a bunch of dry firing if necessary.
    Great ideas, when I hit the pistol range next week I will make sure to give this a shot. I have been told about my problems with the trigger press, but I still do it. I guess it just takes practice.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Changed scoring?

    Yeah...last season most the league hated that we had to start 3 WRs (2 WRs and 1 WR/TE flex) so what does he do this year? 3 WRs, and 2 WR/TE flex spots...then he penalizes QBs (30 yards per point instead of 25) and WRs (15 yards per point instead of 10).
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    Yeah...last season most the league hated that we had to start 3 WRs (2 WRs and 1 WR/TE flex) so what does he do this year? 3 WRs, and 2 WR/TE flex spots...then he penalizes QBs (30 yards per point instead of 25) and WRs (15 yards per point instead of 10).
    I'm just wondering why you are complaining about the changed scoring...in week 12.

    Scoring can be changed mid-season, last I checked (did it before to make a correction a few years ago), usually when somebody complains about changed scoring 3 months into the season, it was changed recently, not 4 months ago.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I'm just wondering why you are complaining about the changed scoring...in week 12.

    Scoring can be changed mid-season, last I checked (did it before to make a correction a few years ago), usually when somebody complains about changed scoring 3 months into the season, it was changed recently, not 4 months ago.

    True, but I'm complaining now because it's getting down to the wire for the playoff hunt and only getting 4 points from Witten when in every other league I have him he got me near 8 is an impact I'm not enjoying.
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    I was thinking about getting a gun to go shooting but I feel like it'd be a waste of money and I'd get bored after like a few weeks.
    I got a pair of 20 inch guns meself.

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    I got a pair of 20 inch guns meself.
    I wouldn't even know what mine are these days but I do find it amusing when dudes hovering around 200lbs and lean claim 18-19" pipes.

    Or maybe they measure their arms when they were fat and then keep that stat when they lean out. A lot of bullshít gets posted on this site.

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    A lot of bullshít gets posted on this site.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
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    I was going to rant but decided to sum it up succinctly.

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    Farley's Firearms & Fantasy Football Fappery.
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    F'ing FFFFF.

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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    I was going to rant but decided to sum it up succinctly.

    Anyway, don't let me interrupt today's broadcast of Farley's Firearms & Fantasy Football Fappery.
    F5. Nice.

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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
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    Sundays are reserved purely for Football and Fantasy Football.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    lololol field sprinklers came on in Miami

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    Freeman will put up at least 20 points.
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