Misc Firearms Crew IV: Dial "0" For Operator

[3twelves]

lol. Can't really argue with that.


But anyway, this rifle goes on the road with me too. And not that it probably matters but it is also my SHTF rifle. As such I do strongly prefer to have something that will perform well through intermediate barriers such as a windshield, car body, etc.

Probably against an unarmoured "soft target" intruder at home defense distances one of the 75-77gr BTHP rounds would do better. I have the one box of Hornady TAP FPD with 15 rounds remaining, and I have not completely written off the idea of having those rounds up first when the rifle is sitting in my bedroom (Gold Dot/Ranger in a couple spare mags kept handy, and in the rifle whenever I take it out of the house). I also have Prvi Partizan 75gr BTHP match...and they are quite accurate for the money. ($9/20)

Unless you like wasting money, check out the Federal Mk318 for "barriers". They are about $11 a box.




http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_16/511790_.html


http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-281

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-2810

[livebrah]

I saw mixed Hornady Superformance stuff too. I bought a box of it at my LGS on a whim, along with the single box of FPD, back when I got the 420 round stripper clipped XM855. I have only fired one single five shot string of the Superformance 5.56 (81264) at 25 yards at my indoor range, but I didn't notice any difference vs bulk ball ammo

yeah im really leaning towards mk262

I want something heavy with as much velocity as I can get to try and get as much range as possible out of the cartridge, so hornady superformance sounds good but it means nothing if it cannot group well

like you said, the fbi 3313 might be low velocity so that would also be undesireable


hopefully the hornady does well though since it is slightly cheaper than mk262

[Farley1324]

Unless you like wasting money, check out the Federal Mk318 for "barriers". They are about $11 a box.




http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_16/511790_.html


http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-281

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-2810

That would be a reasonable choice.

But as an ammo whore I cannot deny that my research indicated that the top of the line bonded bullets are a little better.

Also, with my background primarily being in handguns I might have a small bias or proclivity towards Speer Gold Dot and Winchester Ranger, as I have been loading my pistols with those for years.

*Although Winchester pistol ammo has gone down the shitter recently.

[2 D]

After shooting my dads gun a few more times I realized I won't be buying a gun that takes 357 Sig ammo.

[RyouBakua]

Sometimes its better to buy new.

i took my dog to buy a new car

this is what he looks like

[3twelves]

After shooting my dads gun a few more times I realized I won't be buying a gun that takes 357 Sig ammo.

Shot an XD compact in .357sig, wasn't very pleasant. What does he have?

[2 D]

Shot an XD compact in .357sig, wasn't very pleasant. What does he have?

I can't tell if the round is what is getting to me, or the gun and it's configuration. Going to go to the range sometimes and rent their p226 in 9mm and see how different it shoots to see if it is the round vs. the gun/config.

Not only that, but DAT Expense. LAWD.

Paid 35 bucks of 357 sig range ammo yesterday. Almost told the guy to take his CCW sidearm and just shove it up my backside instead, for that price... man.

[3twelves]

I can't tell if the round is what is getting to me, or the gun and it's configuration. Going to go to the range sometimes and rent their p226 in 9mm and see how different it shoots to see if it is the round vs. the gun/config.

Not only that, but DAT Expense. LAWD.

Paid 35 bucks of 357 sig range ammo yesterday. Almost told the guy to take his CCW sidearm and just shove it up my backside instead, for that price... man.

It was definitely the round, the P226 even the P229 in 9mm shoots really nice.

[Turbomunkey]

Business slow as fuk. Life sifted through like sand

[4ea]

Shot an XD compact in .357sig, wasn't very pleasant. What does he have?

.357 sig always seemed to me like an unnecessary round. why is it unpleasant to shoot though? very snappy recoil?

[3twelves]

.357 sig always seemed to me like an unnecessary round. why is it unpleasant to shoot though? very snappy recoil?

Very snappy, two handed gorilla grip needed.

[proconsul]

Unless you like wasting money, check out the Federal Mk318 for "barriers". They are about $11 a box.

You know what works well for barriers?

7.62 commie. $4.50 a box.

[stiffdogg06]

You know what works well for barriers?

7.62 commie. $4.50 a box.

[3twelves]

You know what works well for barriers?

7.62 commie. $4.50 a box.

I can't argue with that.


Bigger bullets>Magic bullets

[Farley1324]

I can't argue with that.


Bigger bullets>Magic bullets

The bullet in my Glock 26 is bigger than 7.62 commie.

[3twelves]

The bullet in my Glock 26 is bigger than 7.62 commie.

Rifle>Pistol

[Turbomunkey]

Caliber war

Picking up my 1911 after work oh boy oberto

[Farley1324]

Rifle>Pistol

Would that be because velocity is a significant factor?

[proconsul]

The bullet in my Glock 26 is bigger than 7.62 commie.

Ha ha, jakes on you, Farley. I picked up both my G26 and SLR101 today. I am a walking maelstorm of manstopperness.

Pics to come tonight.

[4ea]

Very snappy, two handed gorilla grip needed.

sounds kinda fun. im probably not gonna bother with it for now though, 10mm sounds like more fun

[Irish Iron]

Would that be because velocity is a significant factor?

lol are you really comparing the differences in velocities between 9mm vs 7.62x39 and 7.62x39 vs 5.56?

[Farley1324]

sounds kinda fun. im probably not gonna bother with it for now though, 10mm sounds like more fun

10mm > .357 sig all day long

As long as the size of the grip/gun isn't an issue, of course.

lol are you really comparing the differences in velocities between 9mm vs 7.62x39 and 7.62x39 vs 5.56?

Not really. Pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles.

x39 vs 5.56 is almost to the point where it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. Almost. Not quite, there are pros/cons to each, but I put them on the same level overall. It's really more a matter of platform to go with it than cartridge when you pick one.

[Poppy83]

Ha ha, jakes on you, Farley. I picked up both my G26 and SLR101 today. I am a walking maelstorm of manstopperness.

Pics to come tonight.

LOL! G26 is a 9mm. What a wimpy round!

I picked up a couple of toys over the past few days...shotgun and finally got to bring home my can.

[NRAFL]

/Debate

[bodybybalco86]

In for another caliber war. i'm partial to 10mm myself.

[4ea]

10mm > .357 sig all day long

As long as the size of the grip/gun isn't an issue, of course.

true man, 10mm is a beast of a round. .357 sig may be powerful as well... but i still dont find myself lusting after it. maybe if it werent so damn expensive id have a change of mind.

LOL! G26 is a 9mm. What a wimpy round!

I picked up a couple of toys over the past few days...shotgun and finally got to bring home my can.

wimpy round. LOL thats a great way of putting it man. i admit though, i do really enjoy 9mm. so cheap comparred to other calibers.

/Debate

very nice man!

[Quickstrike]

I can't tell if the round is what is getting to me, or the gun and it's configuration. Going to go to the range sometimes and rent their p226 in 9mm and see how different it shoots to see if it is the round vs. the gun/config.

Not only that, but DAT Expense. LAWD.

Paid 35 bucks of 357 sig range ammo yesterday. Almost told the guy to take his CCW sidearm and just shove it up my backside instead, for that price... man.

Meh... +p+ ammo in 9mm is gud nuff for me.

About 200 fps slower though. 125 grainer 357 sig vs. +p+ 127 grain ranger T

[Farley1324]

Meh... +p+ ammo in 9mm is gud nuff for me.

About 200 fps slower though. 125 grainer 357 sig vs. +p+ 127 grain ranger T

The 9 is a lot easier to find, less expensive, quicker follow ups, more ammo to choose from, higher capacity, etc.

I just don't have any interest in the sig round. I've had a 10mm, though, and will likely have another at some point.

[WillBrink]

.357 sig always seemed to me like an unnecessary round.

It's a solution in search of a problem.

[stiffdogg06]

I wonder if you could talk to local ranges and get them to sell you their brass unprocessed and unpackaged... I go to my local range and that have a few repackaged bags of 9mm, and .40 but they have A LOT of brass I see in there buckets that I never see on their shelves...

EDIT: I just e-mailed one of my local ranges to see if they'd sell their spent brass in large quantities; hopefully without trying to get a huge profit.