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    I want to first thank Drooks & everyone over at Appnut for the opportunity to log this stack. This is my first time running a stack from Appnut so i'm pretty excited to see how this stack can help with my training.



    I'm following 5/3/1 and i'm currently on my second month with the program & my 2nd week started this morning. I'm getting in right now around 2600-2800 calories, weighing in at 191lbs as of this morning. I plan to slowly bump up my calories to around 3,000 and gauge my progress from there. I'm focusing on gaining strength and weight so aesthetics aren't as important to me right now.

    Sunday, Monday, Wednesday & Thursday are my training days. Lets jump right into things.

    My current supplements are nothing fancy. My multi is Uni-Vite from Universal, Vitamin D3, Vitamin C, Beta Alanine(running out), Inner Armour Nitro Peak protein.

    The dosing for Drive states to take it upon waking. Based off the recommended dosing of 3 pills up to 200lbs I took 3 pills preworkout when I woke up this morning. The next 3 caps can come later on in the day.

    RPM's dosing states "up to 200lbs 2-3 capsules". I went with 2 pills preworkout this morning as well.

    Neovar states "150-200lbs 3 capsules (6 daily). It states to take post workout with carbs. The other 3 can come later in the day per the directions. I took my first dose preworkout 10 minutes before my breakfast/post workout meal.

    I've never really been a big fan of pill preworkouts but have had success with them i.e Animal Pump.

    Here's a look at my workout from my workout log and my thoughts about day 1 with this stack.

    Rise & shine Brothers of the Iron.

    I hope all you guys are doing well on this beautiful NFL Sunday.

    Today was the start of Wave 2 (second week) of 5/3/1 and it was kicked off with my Overhead press. I also took 3 videos of my three working sets. Lets jump right into this bish.

    9/16/2012
    Cycle 2, Wave 2, OHP 3x3+

    *I did a 10 minute dynamic shoulder warm up to get the blood flowing.

    Overhead press training max is at 131lbs

    *Warmed up with the barbell for 2 sets for 5 reps
    *Warm up sets @ 40%x5, 50%x5 & 60%x3

    Working sets

    Set 1


    Set 2


    Set 3


    I felt good with my pressing and pushed for one more rep on the last set and got it. Definitely felt good hitting my goal.

    BBB overhead press @ 50%
    65x10, 65x10, 65x10, 65x10, 65x10

    Chin ups *These were done in between my BBB press sets
    Total= 35

    DB JM press
    30x12, 40x10, 40x8
    *I really like the JM Press. I did a set of the CGB but no matter what I always feel it more in my front delts then in my triceps so I just dropped it.

    DB shrugs
    45x12, 45x10, 45x10

    Standing Calf work & Seated calf work

    That was my workout. Nothing fancy but definitely intense. I had a crazy pump through out my whole workout. I had no carbs what so ever, woke up and headed to the gym on an empty stomach. I love that feeling of being jacked during your lifting haha.

    Tomorrow is my Deadlift day and that's always a good day. Till then you guys have a great Sunday.

    So here are my thoughts specifically on RPM cause it's to early to comment on Drive or Neovar. These are the type that take an accumulation and continual use to see the benefits.

    With RPM I didn't get hit with that energy you get usually from a powder preworkout. Now I want to mention I just wrapped up a log with Gaspari's Detonate and haven't really had a stim break like I want to. With that said I had some pretty smooth energy this morning. I really noticed a slight increase in energy occur after my dynamic shoulder warm up. This slowly increased through out my workout and I could really notice the energy slowly increasing with each set. I felt good through out my workout seeing as I was training fasted.

    What really surprised me was the pump and vascularity I had. As I mentioned above I had no preworkout meal prior to hitting the gym, just what I had the evening before. The pump I had was awesome and could easily rival any other pump product out there. I had some nice vascularity through out the inner part of my forearm. Now these aren't a necessity to me like it is to others but nonetheless it's definitely a nice benefit to have.

    I'm still feeling pretty good right now with no ill side effects to report from my morning dosing. I'll take my 3 caps of Drive and Neovar later today.

    Thanks again Drooks and all the guys over at Appnut for this opportunity

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    1rd!

    Nice job on the OHP bro! I like how you pushed for one more after you'd met your target.

    By the way, you look younger in your vids than in the avi!
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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    1rd!

    Nice job on the OHP bro! 135x6 is strong. I like how you pushed for one more after you'd met your target.

    By the way, you look younger in your vids than in the avi!
    It was 115lbs i'll be repping 135lbs soon enough. I'm 26 years old
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    It was 115lbs i'll be repping 135lbs soon enough. I'm 26 years old
    Lol I realized I was wrong about the weight when I looked at your training max of 131. Nonetheless, great form on those. No doubt you'll be at the plates soon.

    I commented about your avi because you look serious in it, but you're clowning around in the vids - which is great to see
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    In! Great vids, too. Really looking forward to your log.

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    Great stack! In for some amazing workouts.
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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    Lol I realized I was wrong about the weight when I looked at your training max of 131. Nonetheless, great form on those. No doubt you'll be at the plates soon.

    I commented about your avi because you look serious in it, but you're clowning around in the vids - which is great to see
    I have to look hardcore in my avi for the forum bro hahaha. Nah I'm laid back usually in life haha. I can't wait to start repping 135.

    Originally Posted by drooks10 View Post
    In! Great vids, too. Really looking forward to your log.

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    Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    Great stack! In for some amazing workouts.
    Thanks guys for the support. I really appreciate it. Thanks again Drooks for the opportunity.
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    In bro. Nice job on the overhead press, It looks you like you could have hit at least 1 more!
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    Used to be fat, now just fat with a lot of muscle.

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    In's . Great stack. RPM is smooth energy. But the pumps are fantastic.
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    Originally Posted by shoefanatic23 View Post
    In bro. Nice job on the overhead press, It looks you like you could have hit at least 1 more!
    Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    iinnnnnn
    Thanks guys. It's good to have you two following along. I could of got one more rep but I would of sacrificed form.

    Originally Posted by MrAnaconda View Post
    In's . Great stack. RPM is smooth energy. But the pumps are fantastic.
    I was really surprised about the pumps with no food in my system. Thanks for the opportunity.
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    I still got some RPM in my stack.

    have u been to sore to workout before? maybe injured? not sure what the 5/3/1 protocol is for this.

    im sure ill be fine but may need to hold some back tomorrows deads day cause those squats damn.
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    Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    I still got some RPM in my stack.

    have u been to sore to workout before? maybe injured? not sure what the 5/3/1 protocol is for this.

    im sure ill be fine but may need to hold some back tomorrows deads day cause those squats damn.
    I always get doms on Squat days. There is no way around that haha. Injury wise i've been good so far but if you are injured I would definitely recover first.
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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post

    By the way, you look younger in your vids than in the avi!
    This! You almost look like a different person. Have you lost a lot of weight since your avi pic was taken?

    Strong OHPs. Good looking form. Although the close ups in your vids scared me

    Oh and....

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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    This! You almost look like a different person. Have you lost a lot of weight since your avi pic was taken?

    Strong OHPs. Good looking form. Although the close ups in your vids scared me

    Oh and....

    u know i thought same thing. his avi has me feeling like he wants to punch me in the face and take my lunch money.
    Used to be fat, now just fat with a lot of muscle.

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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    I have to look hardcore in my avi for the forum bro hahaha. Nah I'm laid back usually in life haha. I can't wait to start repping 135.
    I like to just look plain sexy in my avi. Lol! I'm hoping to look a whole lot better come March when I plan to compete again.

    Thanks guys for the support. I really appreciate it. Thanks again Drooks for the opportunity.
    No problem. The reason I chose you was because I know you aren't going to sugarcoat anything. I want to see honesty, 100%.

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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    This! You almost look like a different person. Have you lost a lot of weight since your avi pic was taken?

    Strong OHPs. Good looking form. Although the close ups in your vids scared me

    Oh and....

    I gotta look tough in my avi bro lol

    Nah I haven't lost a lot of weight. You calling my fat bro? lol jk

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    I like to just look plain sexy in my avi. Lol! I'm hoping to look a whole lot better come March when I plan to compete again.



    No problem. The reason I chose you was because I know you aren't going to sugarcoat anything. I want to see honesty, 100%.

    What do you have on tap for today?

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    I will definitely provide nothing but honest feedback.

    Sorry for the last post guys. Here's my workout from yesterday taken from my workout log.

    Sorry for the late post. Yesterday me, my mother in law, wife & daughter drove to Seattle to pick up our pass ports for a trip we're taking 10/5. I woke up yesterday at 5am and we headed out. The drive was fuking forever haha. My nutrition was off and wasn't able to track my macros/calories. I'm guessing I ate a little over 3k though. Not a biggie, it's only one day and i'm back on my sh!t today. I was tired as fuk though and got back from Seattle around 7:30pm.

    I could of rested and just pushed my deadlift day to today but I said "nope there is no excuses" and went to the gym last night for my deadlift day.

    Here is what it looked like.

    9/17/2012

    Cycle 2, Wave 2, Deadlift 3x3+

    Deadlift training max 330lbs

    *Did a quick 10 minute lower body warm up

    Warm up sets 40%x5, 50%x5, 60%x3

    Working sets
    230x3, 265x3, 295x6
    *I felt strong on my pulls last night and was very happy to pull 6 reps given the fat I was tired as fuk. I did have some help from my preworkout that i'm logging (RPM).

    BBB sets @ 50%
    165x10, 165x10, 165x10, 165x10, 165x10

    Barbell Hip Thrust
    95x10 ,95x10, 95x10
    *These felt good for my glutes but I didn't really like them that much. I'm still trying to find a complimentary lift to pair for my deadlift day and might either go with good mornings or try next week the barbell sldl to see how that works out.

    This was my workout from last night and it lasted about an hour. Overall for being on the road over 10 hours I felt good. Today is a rest day (much needed) followed by my bench day. I'll try to get some video of that on Wednesday.

    So this is how things played out yesterday with my supplementation.

    I took Drive 3 pills upon waking yesterday morning before heading to Seattle. When I left to the gym I took 3 pills of Drive along with 2 pills of RPM. I tell you this about RPM, it's just been 2 days but RPM definitely helped out yesterday with my workout. I was tired as hell when I got back from Seattle and almost didn't even go to the gym. I told myself there is no excuses for not going.

    RPM is the type of preworkout you don't initially feel at first like you do with a powder preworkout. When you start to get into your workout that's when you start to feel that smooth energy come on and carry you through out your workout. It definitely carried me through my workout. What I thought might be a tiring work out that I would drag myself through, easily became an intense workout that I can honestly attribute to RPM.

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    Strong deadlifts, man.

    Have you thought about BB Rows or Pullups to pair with your deadlifts on back days?
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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    Strong deadlifts, man.

    Have you thought about BB Rows or Pullups to pair with your deadlifts on back days?
    With my deadlift day an accessory lift i'm going to add is barbell front squats. This isn't 100% so we'll see. I'm doing my pull ups on my over head press and bench day along with kroc rows.

    I'm considering front squats, barbell sldl or barbell rdl for my deadlift day.
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    I see...in that case I'd choose BB RDLs. That's just my personal preference though.
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    Originally Posted by BenW22 View Post
    I see...in that case I'd choose BB RDLs. That's just my personal preference though.
    Yea I always liked these and the DOMS following are killer. Problem is sometimes the DOMS would carry over to my squat day so I gotta see how that plays out if I go with them.
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    I'd go with the front squats since they hit your quads the hardest. Deadlifts already hit your lower back and posterior chain so I don't see a need to go overboard with SLDL or RDL as accessories.

    Having said that, I like good mornings as accessories too. Just don't go too heavy with them after deadlifts
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    With my deadlift day an accessory lift i'm going to add is barbell front squats. This isn't 100% so we'll see. I'm doing my pull ups on my over head press and bench day along with kroc rows.

    I'm considering front squats, barbell sldl or barbell rdl for my deadlift day.
    I demand a video of these kroc rows!

    Why would you consider sldl or rdl for you deadlift days? That is overkill, imo.
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    Last night was my deads day too and between sets I was thinking about what I could throw in between deads. I also do pulls/chins on OHP and chest day so thats out. I dont think I could or would want to throw in a leg or lower back movement in between deads thats for sure.

    what about a low pull of some sort? i do krocs or DB rows sometimes low pulley subbed in on my chest day.

    my split is like urs except i do, sun OHP, mon deads, thurs bench, fri squat. so 2 days rest in between i could row on that deads day i guess.
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    Originally Posted by KenshinH View Post
    I'd go with the front squats since they hit your quads the hardest. Deadlifts already hit your lower back and posterior chain so I don't see a need to go overboard with SLDL or RDL as accessories.

    Having said that, I like good mornings as accessories too. Just don't go too heavy with them after deadlifts
    Good point bro and this is why i'm glad you're in my log, always useful info bro. I'll probably go front squats or good mornings for my accessory on my deadlift day.

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    I demand a video of these kroc rows!

    Why would you consider sldl or rdl for you deadlift days? That is overkill, imo.
    Kroc row hit the upper back hard. I'll see about taking a video on my bench day tomorrow. Your right abut over doing it with the SLDL or RDL.

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    Last night was my deads day too and between sets I was thinking about what I could throw in between deads. I also do pulls/chins on OHP and chest day so thats out. I dont think I could or would want to throw in a leg or lower back movement in between deads thats for sure.

    what about a low pull of some sort? i do krocs or DB rows sometimes low pulley subbed in on my chest day.

    my split is like urs except i do, sun OHP, mon deads, thurs bench, fri squat. so 2 days rest in between i could row on that deads day i guess.
    You have almost the same set up I have. Sun-OHP, Mon-Dead, Wed-Bench, Thurs- Squat
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    Sat i do some conditioning and extra mobility and any A/R that needs it. Id love to hit up some cardio on another day on top of some conditioning i do on lifting days but so much homework. lol
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    Sat i do some conditioning and extra mobility and any A/R that needs it. Id love to hit up some cardio on another day on top of some conditioning i do on lifting days but so much homework. lol
    Man I don't do any cardio haha.
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    Took my last 3 pills of Neovar & Drive before my dinner.

    Turkey Brautwurst chili dogs on whole wheat hot dog buns. Followed that up with some Ben & Jerry's.

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    Man I don't do any cardio haha.
    im older, and fatter then u.

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    Took my last 3 pills of Detonate & Drive before my dinner.

    Turkey Brautwurst chili dogs on whole wheat hot dog buns. Followed that up with some Ben & Jerry's.
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    Hahaha I just saw that.
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