Demystifying Fat Loss (Video)

[JasonDB]

Yea, it wouldn't be a good idea. lol

Prime Minister them....


wut

LoL

[JasonDB]

Bumping back to first page for the noobs.

[Mike32125]

do you have to be such a cocky pr1ck about everything tho u know ur stuff obviously and uve had good gains but i just cant stand it when u act like such a d1ck

[JasonDB]

do you have to be such a cocky pr1ck about everything tho u know ur stuff obviously and uve had good gains but i just cant stand it when u act like such a d1ck

[JasonDB]

A must see for those confused on the top of fat loss... bumping for the noobs.... don't let this get buried if you have seen it and found it helpful.

[Mike32125]

A must see for those confused on the top of fat loss... bumping for the noobs.... don't let this get buried if you have seen it and found it helpful.

lol subscribed due to big lebowski

[JasonDB]

lol subscribed due to big lebowski

LoL.... welcome aboard. Fasten your safety belt.

[Charontes]

One thing I've always wondered about protein, if only 45-55% of protein can be converted into glucose, how can you regard the non-converted protein count as "Calories In" They aren't burned for energy and aren't stored as fat right?

So if you ingest 40g of protein, 30g go into the body (going by your thermic numbers), and only ~15g could be converted into glucose (assuming close to worst case?), how can the remaining 15g of protein count as calories?

I've never really found anything that tries to explain it. Am I missing something obvious?

[JasonDB]

One thing I've always wondered about protein, if only 45-55% of protein can be converted into glucose, how can you regard the non-converted protein count as "Calories In" They aren't burned for energy and aren't stored as fat right?

So if you ingest 40g of protein, 30g go into the body (going by your thermic numbers), and only ~15g could be converted into glucose (assuming close to worst case?), how can the remaining 15g of protein count as calories?

I've never really found anything that tries to explain it. Am I missing something obvious?

There are millions of metabolic functions in the body that use various amino acids for those processes and that accounts for much of your base metabolic rate, along with protein turnover in muscle tissue and organs etc.

Actually all of it goes into the body out of that 40g... it is that breaking some of the bonds requires the use of calories which could be accounted for from the other fuel sources... the full 40g of broken up amino acids still get in it is that the process of getting them into the body for use isn't effecient like it is with carbs and fat. Fat is 100% effecient in this regard while carbs are 97-98% effecient (so you lose a tiny amount of heat energy through the process of digestion, absorbsion and making use of them).

[Charontes]

There are millions of metabolic functions in the body that use various amino acids for those processes and that accounts for much of your base metabolic rate, along with protein turnover in muscle tissue and organs etc.

Actually all of it goes into the body out of that 40g... it is that breaking some of the bonds requires the use of calories which could be accounted for from the other fuel sources... the full 40g of broken up amino acids still get in it is that the process of getting them into the body for use isn't effecient like it is with carbs and fat. Fat is 100% effecient in this regard while carbs are 97-98% effecient (so you lose a tiny amount of heat energy through the process of digestion, absorbsion and making use of them).

Oh, thanks Jason. I guess the mental disconnect I have is realizing that protein is used as more than a structural thing. I was thinking the only use it could have as energy was if it were converted into glucose. I have a lot to learn.

[JasonDB]

Oh, thanks Jason. I guess the mental disconnect I have is realizing that protein is used as more than a structural thing. I was thinking the only use it could have as energy was if it were converted into glucose. I have a lot to learn.

No need to learn it all unless you plan on working in a biology related field or are going back to school. Most of it will have no applications in the real would outside of that include your physique.

However it can be interesting/fun to study if you enjoy science.

[dkotek]

lol perfect response. subbed

[Geoloop]

Actually all of it goes into the body out of that 40g... it is that breaking some of the bonds requires the use of calories which could be accounted for from the other fuel sources... the full 40g of broken up amino acids still get in it is that the process of getting them into the body for use isn't effecient like it is with carbs and fat. Fat is 100% effecient in this regard while carbs are 97-98% effecient (so you lose a tiny amount of heat energy through the process of digestion, absorbsion and making use of them).

Just to clarify the TEF of CHs is about 5-10% and fats 0-3%, protein range goes from 20-30% and bump

[bigruss504]

Great info....actually shocked none of the bro-scientists have come on and challenged you "because they ate clean" to lose fat...lol

[JasonDB]

Just to clarify the TEF of CHs is about 5-10% and fats 0-3%, protein range goes from 20-30% and bump

Ah one of my educated friends has corrected my data... touche. Welcome in Geo. They've found Cho to go as high as 10% now on TEF? Interesting. Was unaware.

Great info....actually shocked none of the bro-scientists have come on and challenged you "because they ate clean" to lose fat...lol

I'll respond to them with "I hoped around on one foot and said 3 hail mary's before every workout for 3 months and during that 3 months I lost fat and gained 20 lbs on my bench... you should try it."

Most of the debates in the fitness and bodybuilding community can be summarized with this analogy: in this community people will take the simple act of opening a door and walking through it into something complex by one person explaining that you should run around in 3 circles in front of the door first, another saying 4, another debating the merits of going counterclockwise instead and as they debate back and forth on it, they then use the fact that they made it through the door afterwards as evidence of the effectiveness of their methods.

[JasonDB]

Back to the top.

[JasonDB]

If you liked the video enough to rep me, then please bump this back up for the noobs... it would answer about half the threads on the front page.

[MazzaG]

Great video for those who are unaware.

One thing I've always had an issue with when trying to lose fat is getting enough Protein within my calorie deficit to maintain the muscle.

It's hard to eat 'dirty' foods which so often are low in protein and can take a huge chunk out of your daily calorie allowance (on a cut). I guess it comes down to finding the right balance.

[JasonDB]

Great video for those who are unaware.

One thing I've always had an issue with when trying to lose fat is getting enough Protein within my calorie deficit to maintain the muscle.

It's hard to eat 'dirty' foods which so often are low in protein and can take a huge chunk out of your daily calorie allowance (on a cut). I guess it comes down to finding the right balance.

Easy solution on the later... and there are no dirty foods...
1) Eat enough chicken breast or steak to hit most of your dietary protein for the day.
2) Eat 2 lbs of assorted mixed veggies to get all your fiber and most of your micronutrients out of the way and for satiation.
3) Fill remaining calories with pizza and/or ice cream of choice.
4) Profit.

This is how I go about it personally:

[KellyP92]

Thanks for this video very simple and to the point!!

[SideSteal]

Repped and bump. Watching now, I'm sure it's great.

[JasonDB]

Thanks for this video very simple and to the point!!

You are most welcome. I hope it was helpful for you.

Repped and bump. Watching now, I'm sure it's great.

Thanks and thanks for the reps.

[JasonDB]

Back to the front page for the noobs.

[lee__d]

Just stick this already, Alan. Must we suffer a daily shameless bump?

lol

[JasonDB]

Just stick this already, Alan. Must we suffer a daily shameless bump?

lol

I would ask but two mods have already stickied videos of mine in other subforums and I don't want to be greedy with sticky space.

[lee__d]

I would ask but two mods have already stickied videos of mine in other subforums and I don't want to be greedy with sticky space.

Get greedy, bro. Get greedy

[JasonDB]

Get greedy, bro. Get greedy

I just asked Alan, we'll see what happens.

[daveboy1976]

the nutritional freedom this gives for those cutting from a great 'height' is excellent. To know that the next six months will not necessarily be without the odd slice of pizza must be very liberating for those who dont enjoy clean foods so much.

[JasonDB]

the nutritional freedom this gives for those cutting from a great 'height' is excellent. To know that the next six months will not necessarily be without the odd slice of pizza must be very liberating for those who dont enjoy clean foods so much.

It should even be reasonably liberating, I have more videos on this topic, from the idea that clean foods or dirty foods actually exist.

[memcop]

"If you cant track calories in today's world, basically you are a fuking moron."