i would have posted this in that thread but I just now saw it, and it's already at 5 pages so I doubt anyone would see it in there, so i'll just make a new thread.
that thread is literally the worst thread i've ever seen, dead serious.
first you have OP claiming that "Jesus never existed" like he's some kind of advanced theologian that's smarter and has more information then everyone else in the world.
then you has muslims claiming that "Jesus existed but he was just a prophet, not God", which is just as bad as saying he never even existed.
1 John 2:22 "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
there is overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ, both in secular and biblical history. perhaps the greatest evidence that Jesus did exist is the fact that literally thousands of Christians in the first century A.D., including the twelve apostles, were willing to give their lives as martyrs for Jesus Christ.
people will die for what they believe to be true, but no one will die for what they know to be a lie.
the fact that Jesus is the most attacked person in history PROVES that there is SOMETHING special about him, if he was just some jewish carpenter who was a good teacher over 2000 years ago, then why is he still so popular today? why is he the most popular person in history if there's nothing special about him?
why do so many people try to twist and attack his deity? why are there so many false prophets over history who claim to be Christ?
because Jesus truely IS God Almighty, and people are drawn to him.
Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty"
Jesus Christ stands unique in history, with His voice rising above all false gods and continuing to ask the question that ultimately determines a person’s eternal destiny:
Matthew 16:15 "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?"
it is evil and wicked that men have diminished the deity of Jesus Christ, and have taken away from the due worship that Jesus is worthy to receive.
Philippians 2:9-10, “Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.”
Jesus is the name above every other name; the King of kings and Lord of lords.
and he is my crucified, buried, and risen from the dead savior.
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09-06-2012, 07:02 AM #1Jesus Christ is GOD!
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That "Jesus never existed" thread is 100% BS. [SRS]
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09-06-2012, 07:05 AM #2Blue Eyed Devil
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What are your thoughts on the Council of Nicaea?
(quickly, this is your thread. We'll all know if you have to go look it up, draw conclusions, and come back with an opinion)
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09-06-2012, 07:06 AM #3Jesus Christ is GOD!
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the council of nicaea confirmed the Apostles' teaching of who Christ is -- the One true God in Deity and Trinity with the Father and the Holy Spirit.Originally Posted by NHSport
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09-06-2012, 07:06 AM #4
4th post in that thread
******* get your religion out of hereOriginally Posted by ImHuge07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
That wiki page contains the argument for and against, along with links to other sources. There's a lot of interesting books on the subject, along with online guides, but the TL;DR version of them is this:
There's no contemporary accounts of Jesus's existence, although there are records of many other leaders and religious movements in Jerusalem at the time.
The first descriptions of Jesus come from Paul, long after Jesus' death. Paul never claims to have met Jesus or witnessed the events of the New Testament, only to have had "visions" and citing witnesses who are otherwise not known to exist. Many people read Paul's writings, and began following it as a religion.
About fifty years later, historians begin writing about the existence of Christianity as a movement. None claim independent knowledge as to the actual existence of Jesus, let alone being able to confirm his life.
Not long after that, a group of Christian followers noticed that people were starting to gather their own compendiums of stories about Jesus, to make "official" what happened. These Greek and Roman followers instead compiled their own accounts of what happened, supposedly based on oral stories whose origin whose supposedly people like Mark, Matthew and John. None of these gospels were written in the century Jesus was alive, none were even alleged to be written by the people themselves, and none were written without independent knowledge of the existing stories.
TL;DR of the TL;DR: There's no historical evidence that Jesus existed, rather than that a story and it's followers existed. There were other people like him at the time, so if you leave out the supernatural bits it's totally plausible, and doing so makes explaining the origin of the religion easier, so historians often gloss over the issue. But it's not in any way confirmed.
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09-06-2012, 07:07 AM #5TEAM HEATH 09
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09-06-2012, 07:08 AM #6Registered Jimmy Rustler
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09-06-2012, 07:09 AM #7No dreams, only tears.
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Why would you need to be a theologian to claim that? What do theologians know that is observable, testable or falsifiable?Originally Posted by DepressedBrahh
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09-06-2012, 07:11 AM #8TEAM HEATH 09
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09-06-2012, 07:12 AM #9
who gives a **** whether or not he existed or not....holy ****, we have a dying economy, no healthcare, and other bs and this is the garbage you guys talk about?
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09-06-2012, 07:12 AM #10TEAM HEATH 09
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hey depressedbrah. hope you're doin okay. just wanted to share with you my thoughts regarding this theistic thread you've started;
Sir Isaac Newton was a genius that studied the bible for 30 years. He did not believe in Jesus/the trinity.
If you want the 'truth', I'd say it's within Judaism not Jesus.
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09-06-2012, 07:12 AM #12Premium Platinum Member
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Idk OP, it's just kinda weird how Jesus can be both the son of God and God himself
Also, it doesn't look good in using bible verses to prove something
Personally, I think Jesus existed as a human being and had followers - they liked his teachings so much that they basically passed it as him being Godfk ohp and calves *crew*
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09-06-2012, 07:13 AM #13TEAM HEATH 09
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09-06-2012, 07:13 AM #14Banned
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x2 theology is even more BS than this failure of a thread.Originally Posted by OllieSA
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09-06-2012, 07:13 AM #15
I wouldn't go so far as to say jesus never existed. I would say though that there is no reason to believe the jesus of the bible existed.
The bible has shown time and time again that it is not credible historically.
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09-06-2012, 07:13 AM #16Shinobi
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So, religious idiotic trolls like OP and that other dumb BrahG are allowed to spam the forum with stupid posts and threads, but posting beautiful naked women is bannable? Thanks a lot, BB.com!
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you said "people will die for what they believe to be true" key word there BELIEVE!! jus because they believed it, doesnt make it true!!
and he is still so popular now becuase the bible is a very well written and welll thought out book, i do not deny this, but i see it as a book designed to control the masses, which it has for almost 2000 years now!! through fear and by praying on the weak and those in need!++ Positive Crew ++
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09-06-2012, 07:15 AM #20Jesus Christ is GOD!
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Originally Posted by cliffsmcgee
Sir Isaac Newton was unsaved, bro.
the unsaved person cannot understand God, nor His Words, because they are spiritually discerned...
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned” (1st Corinthians 2:14)
a person cannot understand the Bible without the presence of the Author, and God is the Author. when you become born-again (or born for the second time), God's Holy Spirit comes into your body (1st Corinthians 3:16), never to leave (Hebrews 13:5), and you will begin to understand many new things for the first time in your life...
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” —2nd Corinthians 5:17Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven.
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09-06-2012, 07:15 AM #21Originally Posted by spamy
this!! god forbid I see a naked woman!
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09-06-2012, 07:16 AM #22Banned
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brb people dying for jesus must mean he was real. then you must also believe in muhammad and allah right, since every other day some crazy suicide bombing happens?
Christians, your lack of logic is consistently mind-blowing.
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09-06-2012, 07:16 AM #242StrongVon
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Lol at this thread and brainwashed OP
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09-06-2012, 07:19 AM #27Registered User
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God i hope ths is a roll bread.
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I thought OP was a troll first but I'm not sure... Someone plz verify that he's serious with the bible verses and everything
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why u all denying jesu's
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